Really speaking nothing has happened to the Russian aviation infrastructure in terms of Airports, ATCs, Air Traffic controllers. So, reintegrating Russia into the global aviation system can literally happen overnight once the policitical side of things normalize. Unfortunately the political side of...
Jump to post8+ years later Dutch judges will announce the verdict in the trial of 4 men for their roles in the shooting down of the Malaysia Airlines MH17 flight over Ukraine, which killed 298 people.
Live-stream of the ruling starts at 12:30 GMT:
https://www.courtmh17.com/livestream/uitzending.html
Dutchy wrote:Rajahdhani wrote:S7 is set to return two 737 MAX-8s to lessors (in California).
That is quite surprising. Why return these, while keeping hundreds of others?
Russian gov gave approval to return leased 787Max (2) to leasing companies. Max version operations were never approved to begin with. They will be flown to Turkey before November. What’s the use, surely after all that has hapened they are no longer airworthy by all but russian standards? Putin will...
Jump to postdcajet wrote:Perishable food/consumer goods that can't last the 7+days a train trip takes? Just guessing...
Turkey is a sovereign country and has imposed no sanctions on Russia, nor is it obligated to do so. It is very highly unlikely that any spare parts have been stolen, as you are claiming, but if you can provide any factual evidence of that I would be happy to see it. Actions against Aeroflot because...
Jump to postTurkey shouldn't play allong with the russian criminals. Even if these planes are supposedly their rightful property, they might very soon contain stolen parts and no longer comply with international rules for other reasons. Couldn't the airworthyness of all these planes be withdrawn? Not that the ...
Jump to post...and on a related question, why is Aeroflot still allowed to fly Western equipment into Istanbul at all? The Sukhoi Superjets I can understand, since they're not leased, but why don't the lessors seize the A320s and A330s going to IST? I believe they are using a subfleet of 8 A333 that they bough...
Jump to postTWA302 wrote:Ukrainian air defense.
dcajet wrote:You are not thinking like a Russian...
I am sorry but if someone willingly moves into a house that is close to the airport, then they should not complain of the downsides like the noise. For many big cities houses in the nice parts are unafordable for many and often poor peole have to accept whatever is available. Doesn’t mean they don’...
Jump to postPhosphorus wrote:Another easy answer would be keeping crews current?
Did those pesky holes line up again? What ever happened to Swiss precision?
Jump to postI say we should require Finnair to change their name to Suomenaeroyhtiö before we welcome Suomi into NATO... That should get rid of the competition on the routes to Asia.
Jump to postWhat are the chances that China and India invest in/bail out Rostec? They're the Russian state company that owns Irkut, Tupolev, Aviadvigatel, Ilyushin and basically the rest of Russian aviation. UAC, which is also owned by Rostec, teamed up with Comac in China for the CRAIC CR929. Could we see big...
Jump to postNot to get too off topic, but unlike Argentina, Russia has the power and resources to retaliate against any country that tries to pull a stunt like that. Look at Israel and Turkey who haven't imposed severe sanctions against Russia as of yet. Is it because they sympathize with Russia ? Of course no...
Jump to postI never stated that any Aeroflot-owned aircraft is entirely safe, and while one may pose all sorts of theoretical solutions (of which I am fully aware of without an 'explanation') in this current situation we all know they will certainly not happen. Indeed, I would put to you that, if as straightfo...
Jump to postWith all due respect, Israel, Turkey or any other country have nothing to decide at all in relation to being "with the West, or Russia". As sovereign counties they will do whatever suits their best interests at any given time, and no different than any 'western' country would do in a give...
Jump to post2. That is nothing but a pure guess and speculation on your part without a single shred of evidence that it has happened, or will happen. Did you miss Putin’s latest speach in which he warns there will be a cleansing of elements that are not patriotic enough? It is how it works in any failing dicta...
Jump to postEventhough the aeroflots that are now flying east of the US, about to cross the atlantic could fly in international airspace much of the way, what would be their inflight alternates? Would they still comply with regulations and be able file a flightplan etc. if these are legally off-limmits to them?...
Jump to postThe final reply by the defence won’t be until next spring but we shouldn’t expect too much from it as 3 out of the 4 suspects chose not to represent themselves and the only defense of the 4th seems to be he has absolutely nothing to do with it. More interesting will be the response out of Moscow as ...
Jump to postDo for example Irish registered, leased, insured etc. airplanes have to follow airspace restrictions such as those for Belarus, once they are formalised? Would they be grounded if there ever are EU/US sanctions against Russia itself? This would certainly be a motivation to register them in Russia an...
Jump to postThey could have had him arrested in the terminal, as he was boarding or anywhere else in Russia, but I guess they just wanted to do a show. And that is exactly why the (White)Russians are so dangerous to aviation and non-aviation alike. They think and want to prove they can get away with it and avi...
Jump to postActually they didn't say this. They said that since it would undoubtedly turn into a political fight, they would have to lock it if it was anywhere else. Topic already being discussed in Non-Aviation. Due to it largely being political it will remain in Non-Aviation But I wasn’t only referring to th...
Jump to postNot sure if it should get its own thread, but Russia stopped LOT flight 686 as it was entering the runway in St Petersburg for Warsaw. ATC told crew to return to terminal where another dissident was removed, he didn’t even know he was wanted. Flight departed 1.5 hours late. In Polish https://www.on...
Jump to postUnlike some in the aviation community, Brussels Airport is not afraid to express its ‘political’ solidarity with the main victims of this incident:
Display of the photo of Roman Protasevich, detained blogger and journalist, in Brussels Airport (Belgium)
Why? In the current market the A319neo would make an excellent replacement for the A380 ;-p
Jump to postPANAMsterdam wrote:BA Airbus A380 flying as BAW57D currently on her way to... storage? She hasn't flown for 5 days. Anyone having an idea where she is going? Spain?
https://www.flightradar24.com/BAW57D/24467c78
Don't know whether it is geofencing or NOS doesn't like links directly to their media assets, but I get an access not authorized error The link PANAMsterdam provided for AMS doesn't work for me either, same video but maybe this one works better? 'Planes parked at gates and on platforms. Later this ...
Jump to postHow fast can you out the windscreen and notice the horizon getting worryingly high up the view? I’d say a couple of seconds. GF Yeah, thanks. What I'm looking for is something a bit more scientific. Something like: The trim moves x degrees per sec which causes the plane deviate from the altitude th...
Jump to postTurkey did not, only Turkish Airlines. It's super strange that the flight near Malta was allowed into Maltese airspace. Now looks like it's heading for Tunis. Must be quite surprising for pax who got on the plane at the end of a package tour to Cape Verde and will now apparently end up in Tunis - w...
Jump to postWeird. If you have doubts about the airworthiness of your plane, you'd rather land quickly. Were they perhaps hoping to get permission to enter EU airspace nevertheless? Didn't Turkey also suspend the MAX's certificate? But one landing should be permitted in any case ... Turkey did not, only Turkis...
Jump to postIt looks like TUI is diverting it's flights now. Smartwings is still flying including from Iceland to canarys. They have an hour to land before EASA ban. One Norwegian flight on the way home now. One FlyDubai flight on the way to Helsinki. Most likely won't be allowed into Finnish airspace so might...
Jump to postActually we kind of do know that they tried to turn. Look at this picture from the previous page. The guardian's website has it labeled. The top left dot is origin, top right is the last radar ping. Bottom dot is the location of crash site. The location of the crash site as previously given by The ...
Jump to postThe data on FR24 web page can be extrapolated. The data published on twitter and in the blog post are just raw ADS-B frames from the transponder. There is no reason why the data should be off. It's a modern aircraft with modern electronics. Data comes from the FMS computer in cockpit and is transmi...
Jump to postSorry but the FR24 data is not anywhere near accurate enough for that kind of analysis. They show a runway overrun for nearly every takeoff at my local airport. And no 737 can get airborne at 95kts of groundspeed, especially at that density altitude. Why are people questioning the ADS-B data? It's ...
Jump to postflynlr wrote:anyone have lat and long coordinates of actual impact site?
There's a military airfield near what is reported to be the crash site at the town of Bishoftu. Could it be they were trying to make an emergency landing there and weren't able to make the runway?
Jump to post( I seem to remember that the "sat image, Su 777" mashup was done b a canuk blogger inserted into some freeper like discussion site. Made its way from there to Rus TV.) The source of the disinformation doesn't really matter because it is the responsibility of all states to cooperate with ...
Jump to postwean the EU of russian gas, etc. Good luck with that... Signed, Merkel & Juncker Don't expect any spectacular economic blockades in the near future or MH17 alone determining the policies of the countries of Europe but a continued failure of Russia to meet its international obligations or otherw...
Jump to postThere are pictures of BUK supposedly being hauled around Eastern Ukraine. But there is no evidence of it actually crossing the border. And no photographic evidence of it ever being seen in Russia. Here is the photo evidence you are looking for from the JIT MH17 Investigation: Enjoy, https://www.you...
Jump to postLast time I checked, both Russia and Ukraine are signatories to the Montreal Convention that states it is illegal to shoot down a passenger plane. Warzone or no warzone. So both countries should have cooperated from the beginning of the investigation. If a country does not want to cooperate, it sho...
Jump to postThen there is the fact that you don't know what the TELAR operator was intending to fire on. Because you have no way to know that. Not even the TELAR operator had any way of knowing what he was intending to fire on since it seems they were using an incomplete system without full radar support. Howe...
Jump to postWho are “those responsible”? JIT still hasn’t named any, and they don’t have a clue even who could be operating those BUKs they claimed to have left 53rd brigade. Second - Russian legislature prohibits handing over Russian citizens at constitutional level. No judge or prosecutor will turn a Russian...
Jump to postIn case someone is interested in all the different legal aspects of MH17, there's an extensive article in English by a Dutch expert on international law (who was on the Dutch tv news tonight) at https://utrechtjournal.org/article/10.5334/ujiel.368/ Today's briefing by the JIT is focused mainly on th...
Jump to postGentlemen, most probably it was by accident. The commander of the BUK crew sent a tweet about just having shot a (ukrainian air force) „birdie“. Shortly after they noticed their tragic mistake he cancelled his tweet. Not good enough, they should have avoided this "accident" instead of thi...
Jump to postalgeorge2015 wrote:Maybe Ukrainian fighter plane tried to avoid missile system by hiding in the massive shadow of B777.
flyingturtle wrote:Here, negligence is easier to prove than intent.
Dutch criminal law has no jurisdiction for a death on a Malaysia registered aircraft downed over Ukrainian territory. Recklessness or in legal terms, gross negligence, also has to be proven, easier said than done. MH17 should be used as an opportunity to bring people and nations together, not divid...
Jump to postAnd even if at the end of the day, they can prove that it was a Russian army finger that pulled the trigger, they still need to prove intent to kill innocent civilians rather than this being a collateral accident of a civil war. They would also need to prove that the order came from higher hierarch...
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