Re: Airport Photos in the wake of coronavirus impacts

Don't know whether it is geofencing or NOS doesn't like links directly to their media assets, but I get an access not authorized error The link PANAMsterdam provided for AMS doesn't work for me either, same video but maybe this one works better? 'Planes parked at gates and on platforms. Later this ...

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

How fast can you out the windscreen and notice the horizon getting worryingly high up the view? I’d say a couple of seconds. GF Yeah, thanks. What I'm looking for is something a bit more scientific. Something like: The trim moves x degrees per sec which causes the plane deviate from the altitude th...

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Turkey did not, only Turkish Airlines. It's super strange that the flight near Malta was allowed into Maltese airspace. Now looks like it's heading for Tunis. Must be quite surprising for pax who got on the plane at the end of a package tour to Cape Verde and will now apparently end up in Tunis - w...

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Weird. If you have doubts about the airworthiness of your plane, you'd rather land quickly. Were they perhaps hoping to get permission to enter EU airspace nevertheless? Didn't Turkey also suspend the MAX's certificate? But one landing should be permitted in any case ... Turkey did not, only Turkis...

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

It looks like TUI is diverting it's flights now. Smartwings is still flying including from Iceland to canarys. They have an hour to land before EASA ban. One Norwegian flight on the way home now. One FlyDubai flight on the way to Helsinki. Most likely won't be allowed into Finnish airspace so might...

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Actually we kind of do know that they tried to turn. Look at this picture from the previous page. The guardian's website has it labeled. The top left dot is origin, top right is the last radar ping. Bottom dot is the location of crash site. The location of the crash site as previously given by The ...

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The data on FR24 web page can be extrapolated. The data published on twitter and in the blog post are just raw ADS-B frames from the transponder. There is no reason why the data should be off. It's a modern aircraft with modern electronics. Data comes from the FMS computer in cockpit and is transmi...

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Sorry but the FR24 data is not anywhere near accurate enough for that kind of analysis. They show a runway overrun for nearly every takeoff at my local airport. And no 737 can get airborne at 95kts of groundspeed, especially at that density altitude. Why are people questioning the ADS-B data? It's ...

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

flynlr wrote:

anyone have lat and long coordinates of actual impact site?

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

There's a military airfield near what is reported to be the crash site at the town of Bishoftu. Could it be they were trying to make an emergency landing there and weren't able to make the runway?

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

( I seem to remember that the "sat image, Su 777" mashup was done b a canuk blogger inserted into some freeper like discussion site. Made its way from there to Rus TV.) The source of the disinformation doesn't really matter because it is the responsibility of all states to cooperate with ...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

wean the EU of russian gas, etc. Good luck with that... Signed, Merkel & Juncker Don't expect any spectacular economic blockades in the near future or MH17 alone determining the policies of the countries of Europe but a continued failure of Russia to meet its international obligations or otherw...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

There are pictures of BUK supposedly being hauled around Eastern Ukraine. But there is no evidence of it actually crossing the border. And no photographic evidence of it ever being seen in Russia. Here is the photo evidence you are looking for from the JIT MH17 Investigation: Enjoy, https://www.you...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

Last time I checked, both Russia and Ukraine are signatories to the Montreal Convention that states it is illegal to shoot down a passenger plane. Warzone or no warzone. So both countries should have cooperated from the beginning of the investigation. If a country does not want to cooperate, it sho...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

Then there is the fact that you don't know what the TELAR operator was intending to fire on. Because you have no way to know that. Not even the TELAR operator had any way of knowing what he was intending to fire on since it seems they were using an incomplete system without full radar support. Howe...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

Who are “those responsible”? JIT still hasn’t named any, and they don’t have a clue even who could be operating those BUKs they claimed to have left 53rd brigade. Second - Russian legislature prohibits handing over Russian citizens at constitutional level. No judge or prosecutor will turn a Russian...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

In case someone is interested in all the different legal aspects of MH17, there's an extensive article in English by a Dutch expert on international law (who was on the Dutch tv news tonight) at https://utrechtjournal.org/article/10.5334/ujiel.368/ Today's briefing by the JIT is focused mainly on th...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

Gentlemen, most probably it was by accident. The commander of the BUK crew sent a tweet about just having shot a (ukrainian air force) „birdie“. Shortly after they noticed their tragic mistake he cancelled his tweet. Not good enough, they should have avoided this "accident" instead of thi...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

algeorge2015 wrote:

Maybe Ukrainian fighter plane tried to avoid missile system by hiding in the massive shadow of B777.

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

flyingturtle wrote:

Here, negligence is easier to prove than intent.

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

Dutch criminal law has no jurisdiction for a death on a Malaysia registered aircraft downed over Ukrainian territory. Recklessness or in legal terms, gross negligence, also has to be proven, easier said than done. MH17 should be used as an opportunity to bring people and nations together, not divid...

Re: MH17: The missile belonged to a Russian brigade

And even if at the end of the day, they can prove that it was a Russian army finger that pulled the trigger, they still need to prove intent to kill innocent civilians rather than this being a collateral accident of a civil war. They would also need to prove that the order came from higher hierarch...