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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 22, 2019 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transportation of Formula 1 race cars
Replies: 11
Views: 1208

Re: Transportation of Formula 1 race cars

Here is an image from the mid 1960s, when air freight was a faction of what it is today. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/71/00/b7/7100b7f48d2a85cdbf051f46b168b923--cargo-airlines-british-airways.jpg (image courtesy of pinterest.com) Moving the Formula 1 circus around in those days was quite an event, and ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 21, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 1607
Views: 155758

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

The point is: Why were the Flaps retracted with an active stick shaker, contrary to the "STALL RECOVERY" NNC ? Because they looked out of the window and could see they were clearly not in a stall situation? How does looking out the window tell you that you aren't near stall? That sounds l...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 21, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 1607
Views: 155758

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Because they looked out of the window and could see they were clearly not in a stall situation? Morrisond assures us that the numerous clues on approach to stall are so blindingly obvious that they cannot be missed. He has stalled a Cessna dozens of times. :yes: Apart from the stick shaker, what in...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 20, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 1607
Views: 155758

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

The point is: Why were the Flaps retracted with an active stick shaker, contrary to the "STALL RECOVERY" NNC ? Because they looked out of the window and could see they were clearly not in a stall situation? Morrisond assures us that the numerous clues on approach to stall are so blindingl...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 16, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways under fire for offering a new “afternoon tea” that doesn’t come with any tea
Replies: 143
Views: 20400

Re: British Airways under fire for offering a new “afternoon tea” that doesn’t come with any tea

No matter how you slice it ..... 2.50 for a tea bag and some hot water is ridiculous...... its not liked its being served fancy ! Firstly, BA have screwed up. They have joined the race to the bottom and I expect better from them. As to whether 2.50 is a fair price - that depends on your currency. T...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 16, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways under fire for offering a new “afternoon tea” that doesn’t come with any tea
Replies: 143
Views: 20400

Re: British Airways under fire for offering a new “afternoon tea” that doesn’t come with any tea

rta wrote:
This is a semantics problem
Absolutely.

One might even say it is all just a storm in a tea cup....

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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 15, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Renting a car and driving in the UK with a US drivers license
Replies: 38
Views: 1730

Re: Renting a car and driving in the UK with a US drivers license

All you ever wanted to know about Roundabouts, but were afraid to ask. :lol: As several have already pointed out, the image shown earlier is of County Islands in Swindon. Constructed way back in 1972, it was originally known as "County Islands" but locally (& rudely) known as "Th...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 15, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Renting a car and driving in the UK with a US drivers license
Replies: 38
Views: 1730

Re: Renting a car and driving in the UK with a US drivers license

I haven’t driven there before,... Any other considerations to take into account? Like insurance? Other than driving on the left that is From the replies already received, there is a mixture of good advice, some curious observations, and one or two absolute howlers. :lol: However, I'm not going to e...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 13, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What comes after the B797 ??
Replies: 74
Views: 8138

Re: What comes after the B797 ??

Boeing has given a "code" to each of its product lines, post-World War II: 300 and 400: military aircraft 500: turbine-powered aircraft 600: missles 700: jet-transport passenger aircraft I thought I had read a long time ago that the 800 and 900 series were reserved, but I can find no mode...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 13, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What comes after the B797 ??
Replies: 74
Views: 8138

Re: What comes after the B797 ??

Those 'glamorous' names you've listed also had proper type designations: Caravelle - Sud Aviation SE 210 Comet - De Haviland DH 106 Trident - Hawker Siddeley HS.121 Concorde might be the only type I can think of quickly that didn't have a type designation. Cue 25 responses listing others in 5...4.....

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 13, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What comes after the B797 ??
Replies: 74
Views: 8138

Re: What comes after the B797 ??

Concorde might be the only type I can think of quickly that didn't have a type designation. Cue 25 responses listing others in 5...4...3... :lol: I want to say Dassault Mercure? I may be wrong ;) LOL - you beat me to it! There was probably an internal type number that was not commonly referred to i...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 13, 2019 1:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The next gen of combustion engines for cars
Replies: 21
Views: 1214

Re: The next gen of combustion engines for cars

Yes, that's called a "parallel" hybrid because there are two different, independent ways of driving the wheels- electric or gasoline. I am going for a all electric drive train. No transmission, just an electric motor pushing the wheels. The fueled engine, which could be gas, or propane, o...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sun May 12, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Football - Champions League
Replies: 83
Views: 4458

Re: Football - Champions League

Purely in the name of reducing global warming, finals should be played somewhere closer to home in these cases. There might be an argument that Wembley favors a London team, so perhaps Paris would be a sensible neutral venue. Likewise if two Spanish teams were in the final, Lisbon might be appropria...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sat May 11, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Things to do/see in southern England
Replies: 14
Views: 1036

Re: Things to do/see in southern England

Any suggestions on things to do and see in the south of England? I have a wide variety of interests, can spend the entire day in a war museum but am just as well comfortable in a local antiques store or spending the whole day hiking. Like to see things only locals know of, hence my post here. Multi...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Fri May 10, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Things to do/see in southern England
Replies: 14
Views: 1036

Re: Things to do/see in southern England

Any suggestions on things to do and see in the south of England? Anything south of London, from East to West coast. Have 3 days to spent, wide interest, in possession of a rental car. Don't mind of the beaten track. Thanks. The list is simply unending. It would probably help if we knew more about w...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Fri May 10, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Typhoon T3 numbers j
Replies: 4
Views: 1094

Re: Typhoon T3 numbers j

Scrapped ZJ802 ZJ803 ZJ805 ZJ806 ZJ808 ZJ809 ZJ810 ZJ811 ZJ812 ZJ814 ZJ815 I am clearly out of touch with things because it is a shock to me to see such a list of Typhoons wfu/scrapped. Can anybody explain why? Too old? Too many hours? Some structural problem that I have missed? Are they literally ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Fri May 10, 2019 11:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 12.000th Airbus delivery
Replies: 21
Views: 4367

Re: 12.000th Airbus delivery

as a comparision, dpes anyone know the total number of boeing aircraft delivered to total still in use That would be rather problematical; for instance where do you start? I can be fairly certain that out of the 75 Boeing 247 delivered, precisely zero are still in service.....(although N13347 is ap...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 09, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F35 on FR24 - LOL!
Replies: 2
Views: 1132

Re: F35 on FR24 - LOL!

Do you have a screenshot to share? I did capture the image on my computer but I haven't uploaded it to the internet, so sorry. However…. for the next seven days anybody can still view it for themselves on FR24 - no subscription or sign up required (AFAIK). If you have never used FR24 and need a gui...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 09, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 799
Views: 129920

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

In the 80's and 90's, ARFF rules in Europe mandated a 90 second response time (alarm to foam spraying on the fuselage) if (!) the aircraft was within the runway area. At least Arlanda and some larger Swedish airports had fast response vehicles with limited water and foam supplies, but they could in...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 09, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 12.000th Airbus delivery
Replies: 21
Views: 4367

Re: 12.000th Airbus delivery

When that first A300 took to the skies on 28th October 1972, nobody would have thought that Airbus would ever deliver 12,000 planes! Congratulations. :champagne: IIRC back in 1972 the only aircraft with more than 1,000 sales was the Boeing 707, and only because the USAF bought hundreds of KC-135s. ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 09, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 12.000th Airbus delivery
Replies: 21
Views: 4367

Re: 12.000th Airbus delivery

When that first A300 took to the skies on 28th October 1972, nobody would have thought that Airbus would ever deliver 12,000 planes! Congratulations. :champagne: Agreed. Then again, the aviation world has changed beyond all recognition since that time IIRC back in 1972 the only aircraft with more t...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 08, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F35 on FR24 - LOL!
Replies: 2
Views: 1132

F35 on FR24 - LOL!

At first I thought it must be somebody larking around, but a few minutes ago on FR24 I was watching an unknown aircraft simply identified as "F35LTNG" It suddenly appeared on radar (!) at 17:02 UTC about 10 miles south of RAF Marham, Norfolk, England. I am well aware that anybody can enter...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 08, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 1607
Views: 155758

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Not until the investigations are complete! :roll: The posts that are starting to irk me the most are those along the lines of "the airlines, the pilots, the sensor manufacturer and Boeing will all end up sharing the blame". While this *might* actually hold some truth, it totally diverts aw...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 08, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 799
Views: 129920

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

there are no irreplaceble documents, and actually bugs really can delayed evacuation, not so much as we espected by video but still. but passengers was not briefed for emergency landing and some of them take they bugs. "Bags". Bugs are something else. I beg to differ! When one is the Quee...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?
Replies: 44
Views: 7950

Re: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?

I saw these and just couldn't resist.... All these photos are from Shannon, 1988/89. Those were the days..... Eastbound meets westbound? 1494866 A very exposed Tu-154 Under tow to the Aer Rianta International hangar for painting in Aeroflot colours. The a/c had earlier arrived from Tupolev with just...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?
Replies: 44
Views: 7950

Re: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?

This bring me a question: When SU was flying through SNN for refueling between JFK and SVO, did any passenger embark or disembark in SNN? So in other words was one allowed by buy a ticket on SU just to fly, for example, JFK-SNN and back to JFK? I don't think so because I don't think that during com...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 40797

Re: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville

I guess it must be time to drag this photo out of the archives.... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Plane_crash_into_Hudson_River_%28crop%29.jpg/320px-Plane_crash_into_Hudson_River_%28crop%29.jpg As usual, thx & credit to Wikipedia Yep, but in case case of this crash we...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 799
Views: 129920

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Regarding locking overhead luggage bins; My hypothesis is that a few people trying to force the bin open, then giving up, will waste less time than the same people opening their respective bins, dragging their bags out, and lugging them outside. But that's only a hypothesis. Agreed This may be the f...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 40797

Re: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville

What would happen if water was 15 feet deep I stead of 6? It would have been a submarine? I guess it must be time to drag this photo out of the archives.... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Plane_crash_into_Hudson_River_muchcropped.jpg/800px-Plane_crash_into_Hudson_River_mu...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?
Replies: 44
Views: 7950

Re: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?

The IL-86 was notoriously over promised, overweight, underpowered, and desperately short on range. TATL crossings required at least one stop. Flights to Cuba often required two. Some of that is true. Soviet engine design lagged behind the West in terms of bypass ratios and fuel efficiency, and in e...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Tue May 07, 2019 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?
Replies: 44
Views: 7950

Re: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?

I know most of their international routes were flown by the IL 62, Perhaps you meant inter- continental ? Failing that, the majority of their international flights were all within Europe, hence not actually requiring a long range Il-62. e.g. Warsaw Pact countries; Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovak...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 06, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?
Replies: 44
Views: 7950

Re: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?

Very interesting read there thanks for the information and photos. As a kid at school I remember reading the civil airlines books in the school library with Aeroflot as one airline mentioned, I suppose they were a self sustaining airline as in all the aircraft made in the USSR at that time IL, TU t...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 06, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 799
Views: 129920

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

I'm slightly focused on the switch from squawk 7600 to 7700. Would the pilots have made this switch if they believed their only problem was no radios throughout the entire flight? Or is 7700 a necessity to make a landing at a controlled airport without talking to the controllers? Because the way I ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 06, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 799
Views: 129920

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

A very sad day :( My chemistry knowledge is very poor, and seeing all these videos of a burning plane makes me wonder how fire can kill so many people within so few minutes. What exactly happens? Why does it happen so fast? Is it a mix of fire and the components of the jet? Is it both burns and the...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon May 06, 2019 2:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?
Replies: 44
Views: 7950

Re: How big was Aeroflot in the 80's?

Oh yes, it was the largest airline in the whole world, the equivalent of all the US based airlines that existed in the 80s combined. Incredibly huge yes, but it was the only airline that existed in the Soviet Union. Hundreds of Tupolev 134s and 154s, those were the backbone of the Aeroflot fleet du...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sun May 05, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 799
Views: 129920

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

Based on raw data and some guesswork.... SU1492 SVO-MMK (Moscow-Murmansk) took off at 15:03 UTC, climbed to FL100 and immediately initiated descent & return to SVO. After a dummy approach at ca 2,500ft, orbited once and came back in to land at 15:31 UTC. Pure conjecture here; the initial approac...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sat May 04, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 40797

Re: Plane crash in Jacksonville

Glad all are safe. Has to be a nerve wracking experience . Hopefully the media doesn't start some mass 737 hysteria now, however.... I got from google notifs as a "new 737 max story" .. just to talk about hysteria and fake news. The way Google & their cookies work on my computer, I wo...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sat May 04, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville
Replies: 247
Views: 40797

Re: Miami Air 737 runway overrun into river at NAS Jacksonville

The 737NG has 0.27 hull losses per million departures The A320 has 0.26 hull losses per million departures. 737 seems to have more runway overruns specifically. Would be interesting to look at that specific statistics I have made this point on more than one occasion; hull losses is a very broad ter...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu May 02, 2019 12:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Is Google photoshopping planes out of maps?
Replies: 42
Views: 7295

Re: Is Google photoshopping planes out of maps?

It’s a navigation tool so you can get to where you need to go. "It" is a navigation tool? You don't need a satellite image if all you need is navigation. Maps (both digital and paper) already come with empty roads, and not a vehicle in sight. If you are going to add satellite imagery, it ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Wed May 01, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Is Google photoshopping planes out of maps?
Replies: 42
Views: 7295

Re: Is Google photoshopping planes out of maps?

The point is to map the static ground. Not to document airplanes. Really? Surely there are specialist applications that cater for surveyors and geologists and those that require "pure" images? I thought the point of Google maps was to provide an image that was of interest to the general p...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN looking at A220
Replies: 280
Views: 43480

Re: WN looking at A220

You are wasting your breath.because all the A220 fanboys know the WN CEO was lying when he said there would be "no new fleet types in the near future. " What else could be the explanation? You've done this twice already; quoted something that only exists in your head. The funny thing is t...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Perfomance difference between King Air 350 and B1900D
Replies: 12
Views: 3150

Re: Perfomance difference between King Air 350 and B1900D

B1900D uses PT6A-67D, rated 1200SHP. 350 uses PT6A-60A, rated 1050SHP. 1900D is a bit heavier, but it's negligible (10%, is less than power difference). Initial climb rate is pretty much similar as well. It's the cruise altitude that makes difference - assuming both cruise at approx 190KIAS, 1900D ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN looking at A220
Replies: 280
Views: 43480

Re: WN looking at A220

Mods should lock the thread as the premise is wrong -- as WN IS NOT looking at the A220. WN's CEO's opinion is a totally different matter. When he said that Southwest "does not plan to order different aircraft models any time soon.," what do you suppose he meant? When exactly when did GK ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN looking at A220
Replies: 280
Views: 43480

Re: WN looking at A220

Mods should lock the thread as the premise is wrong -- as WN IS NOT looking at the A220. You do know that locking the thread and jumping up an down claiming it isn't going to happen ... isn't going to stop it happening, don't you? My opinion about the matter is meaningless.WN's CEO's opinion is a t...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's Seat
Replies: 72
Views: 8755

Re: Frontier FA Has Woman Arrested For Complaining About Vomit on Child's S

The problem is that, when you paid to be on a plane, being asked to be removed by the same entity you paid to be on said plane would be a breach of contract and should entails immediate and unconditional reimbursement. A company has the right to have you removed from their private property pending ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704578

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I wish there was a thread with just the facts. When will this beauty be back in the air where she belongs? I don't know. Maybe it depends on your definition of "beauty". I'm not sure any of today's jets count as truly beautiful. Perhaps you speaking more as a Boeing shareholder? In that r...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704578

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

https://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/pilots-say-max-mcas-software-updates-prove-effective-simulator-demo "A full aerodynamic stall with the MCAS inoperative is another exercise pilots experience in the MAX engineering cab simulator. “We reduced thrust at 5,000 ft. and slowed the aircra...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704578

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

They were above Vmo for most of the time - that is not within the normal flight envelope. In any case in normal operation they would never get near Vmo (340 knots) - Climb is about 240 as above, cruise about 240 knots Indicated at altitude (above 35,000')- they would only go higher in a wings level...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704578

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

They were above Vmo for most of the time - that is not within the normal flight envelope. Even at the time when they were slightly below Vmo they were 100 knots over the normal climb speed (which they tried to set at 238 Knots on the Autopilot). In any case in normal operation they would never get ...

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by SheikhDjibouti
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:45 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Marking tires for parking-time enforcement ruled unconstitutional
Replies: 31
Views: 1913

Re: Marking tires for parking-time enforcement ruled unconstitutional

It is a serious question. I have absolutely no idea what "NL" stands for. However, to try to get a chuckle out of my dismay I listed the first three obviously incorrect guesses that popped into my head just in case it was a typo. I found your guesses funny too. But they were indeed incorr...

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