I was 18 and in my first semester of college. Went home on a long weekend and flew a clearly-dated America West A320 PHX-MSP in September 2005. It was N644AW, originally delivered to Leisure Air in 1992. The engines seemed to have an annoying buzzing the entire flight. The faded gray cloth seats had...
Jump to postWhat counts as mainline versus regional for this analysis? For instance, some of B6's data is listed as partially-regional but technically they operate their E190s as mainline. I assume those are counted as regional. What about the A220 at B6 & DL, is that being treated as mainline for both? E1...
Jump to postWhat counts as mainline versus regional for this analysis? For instance, some of B6's data is listed as partially-regional but technically they operate their E190s as mainline. I assume those are counted as regional. What about the A220 at B6 & DL, is that being treated as mainline for both?
Jump to postSpirit will leave. Tulum will happen but next winter. B6 likely to go too. JFK loads sucked, why stay for just BOS? AA will continue as is. Nothing great, but no change. CPH will be added. Ethiopian is just a rumor, but I’d give it a couple years. Why would NK leave MSP? They haven’t left any other...
Jump to postForgot about Tulum in all of this. There's a good chance that SY will add at some point this year. With a possible DL response as well. They will indeed respond, if they don’t actually add it first. That's a good point. Tulum seems to be rather up-market from what I've heard about it and those folk...
Jump to postSome 2024 predictions: -SY adds a new international route, probably to the Caribbean. NAS couldn't be a shock. I was surprised to see that MSP doesn't have any Bahamas service scheduled at all this winter. Has this existed in the past or am I imagining things? Seems like the type of route that woul...
Jump to post737s currently scheduled to Heathrow (December/January schedules, but not listing frequency; some are less than daily or only weekly, others are multiple per day) Air Canada 7M8 Halifax Icelandair 7M8 & 7M9 Reykjavik/Keflavik KLM 738 Amsterdam LOT 7M8 Warsaw Turkmenistan 738 Ashgabat Air Algerie...
Jump to postAdding YYZ YUL in canada and 9 domestic destinations https://x.com/ishriona/status/1714039554435367154?s=61 Albuquerque ABQ billings BIL Boise BOI Grand rapids GRR Houston hobby HOU Missoula MSO Oakland OAK Syracuse SYR IAD returns too YYZ Toronto YUL Montreal How soon will delta respond? For futur...
Jump to postI have wondered where the dividing line was between the Pan Am Atlantic & Pacific divisions, particularly regarding India since Pan Am flew around the world. From this it sounds like India was with Atlantic since it went to Delta. The next stop east was Bangkok, which I assume was Pacific and so...
Jump to postThis wouldn't be the first time that United did a sort of partial brand refresh without a corresponding livery update. For example, check out this route map from 2000. http://www.departedflights.com/UA0700domestic.html. The livery was still battleship grey with the serif font, but the logo used else...
Jump to postThe current sideways widget looks more like a nod to Northwest. That’s because it is. Incorrect. The current livery was created post bankruptcy and rolled out in 2007, 18 months before the merger. Even in 2007, this forum was full of people speculating that they turned the widget because a merger w...
Jump to postI think it mostly looks fine. The one thing I am wondering about is how it will look in something like a phone app. I don't see a specific logo that would fit inside a small box for an app, unless it's that triangular thing from the presentation, but I don't see that anywhere on the livery. The tail...
Jump to postUA is flying the 753 on multiple daily LAX-HNL flights.
But other than that, the rest of the current UA 753 flights are only in the hubs in the 48 states, and MCO, and LAS. But they don't go to EWR at all.
WestJet is using concourse C at MSP? I guess that is where they had the most space to shove them... The airport website has been known to lie though as it still literally says that KLM uses concourse E haha Well, YXE flights would have to arrive in G due to no preclearance there. But departures plu...
Jump to postEven lots of airport roadway guide signs, like the ones that direct you to the correct terminal, would list "Northwest/KLM" together even when KLM had never flown to the given airport.
Jump to postNorth & East: AMS (52.3N, 4.8E)
South: SJU (18.4N)
West: PDX (122.6W)
Haven't really left North America or Western Europe.
Hmmm I'd bet AS flies nonstop SEA-KTN, SIT, and JNU also. Yes, but Alaska isn't Delta. I think the whole idea was to see which route was only flown out of one hub by a specific airline, so Alaska's flights wouldn't fall under that category. Correct, for my purposes it was single-hub destinations pe...
Jump to postIsn’t Traverse City also a unique DTW flight? No, they also fly TVC-MSP, TVC-BOS, TVC-ATL, and TVC-LGA, although all four of those are summer seasonal. DTW is their only TVC year-round. I only listed cities that were exclusive all year. I know OP's list was just year-round ones but this was a littl...
Jump to postNeat list, thanks. It would take some time, but would be interesting to see how many or what destinations are unique to a hub for a specific airline. Such as for Delta - MSP is unique to Rapid City, DTW is unique to Alpena, etc. etc. Only have time to do one category/airline but here's a tidbit: DE...
Jump to postBut yeah, AC has had awful punctuality all year. YUL-MSP suffers in particular because it's once a day and it's an evening flight. YYZ-MSP at least has some earlier flights that help the on-time percentage a bit for that route, although the early flight cancels a lot. Since YUL-MSP is just once a d...
Jump to postAC announced today that next spring, they'll be increasing MSP-YYZ from 3x day to 4x day. I'm glad AC is successful here. Their YUL-MSP flight is entertaining - it has an 18% one-time rating. I got lucky with it this summer. I took it back as a connection from YOW, as it was slightly cheaper than g...
Jump to postI found something interesting when looking at the 2022 enplanements by concourse data... Concourse B had only 209 in July, 131 in August, and only 65 in September! Has DL completely shifted away from Concourse B use, or are they doing renovations somewhere over there? I doubt it is the latter since...
Jump to postIs it a crew base? If so, maybe that's what the pilot meant when he was so insistent about it.
Jump to postI see Bismarck ND and Grand Forks ND get a Delta mainline flight beginning in January. RST got one this week. Hopefully we will see more of this. I assume the answer is yes, but is RST the shortest mainline flight in the U.S.? For DL or for everyone? It is DL's shortest mainline flight this week (7...
Jump to postVirtually nothing is symmetrical. Most Seattle people who travel for business or pleasure would seem to have to come back. Most people who travel to Seattle for business or pleasure would seem likely to go home. If I fly back East from Seattle on WN, I may switch planes in different cities on way o...
Jump to postI remember when DE launched FRA-MSP that a bunch of people were somehow confused as to why a bunch of German tourists would visit Minneapolis, when really the route is for MSP-based customers wanting a cheaper way to get to Europe. Evidently there was confusion because much of the DE business model ...
Jump to postSome are. MSP is also where most new Airbus are flown into from Hamburg or Toulouse. It's usually from Mobile these days, at least for their Airbus narrowbodies. No, they also get A321neos from Hamburg regularly. One just last week, MSN 10898. Delivered and flew XFW-BGR-MSP. https://xfw-spotter.blo...
Jump to postWhen Northwest bought the 320s originally, it made a deal with the State of Minnesota to build a hangar at the Hibbing, Minnesota airport to perform maintenance on them. I have forgotten what the state provided in return, but it must have been some sort of subsidy or guarantee. Does anyone know if ...
Jump to postWhen Northwest bought the 320s originally, it made a deal with the State of Minnesota to build a hangar at the Hibbing, Minnesota airport to perform maintenance on them. I have forgotten what the state provided in return, but it must have been some sort of subsidy or guarantee. Does anyone know if ...
Jump to postThinking about BA's A380s, with the delays early retirement of the B747-400 and delays in B787-10 deliveries and potential delays in B777-9 deliveries, any talk at BA of returning for some of the used A380s? The suggestion at the time was that the reconfiguration costs would be too significant, but...
Jump to postI love how every time a Eurowhite livery appears, everyone is like, "Oh my GAWD, how BORRRINGG, they should do something different"... then along comes Condor and does something different and all the same people are like, "Oh my GAWD, how HIIDEEOUUSS, how could they?" I mean, ma...
Jump to postMy very first flight was on a Champion 727, MSP-PVR for Spring Break 2001 when I was 14, in the final weeks of the "old" Humphrey Terminal that felt like a bus depot. I didn't grab the registration, unfortunately, but I wonder if it might be the same frame. But that thing took off like a r...
Jump to postYeah everyone saying MSP would be fine, not so much. There were no arrivals at all between 6:30 PM and 9:30 PM. No departures between 6:30 PM and 10:30 PM. In addition to tons of cancellations, there were a lot of diversions: DL 2144 (MCO) to MSN DL 1835 (PUJ) to MCI DL 1517 (BOI) to FAR DL 2943 (MS...
Jump to postEven Biden said today no shutdowns or lockdowns are coming this winter. Ok, but that still only works domestically. Many countries shut everything down at the first sign of any new variant or new local outbreak or whatever, and that still has a big effect on the international air markets. Yeah....t...
Jump to postMidwestindy wrote:
Even Biden said today no shutdowns or lockdowns are coming this winter.
Where would SY at MSP fall?
Jump to postWe can narrow even further and state "20 years since the last fatality caused by a US-domiciled mainline PASSENGER airline crashing into terrain on US soil" You could get rid of the "on US soil" part, since no US-domiciled mainline passenger airlines have had fatal crashes outsi...
Jump to post767-300 (base model): Delta
767-300ER: United
Only two total 767 flights. Delta was a domestic SEA-MSP in 2015. United was AMS-ORD in 2018.
Shortest WB: SEA-MSP DL B763 (non-ER), in 2015 (1397 miles)
Longest NB: AMS-PHL US B752, in 2013 (3731 miles)
I prefer dimmable windows. My last transatlantic flight was westbound on a UA 767. It was completely a daytime flight (times were 1100 to 1300 local time), and I was sitting on the side away from the sun, and yet the F/A forced me to have my shade completely closed so people could sleep. If it was a...
Jump to postYou'd think the type of person who is so safety-conscious as to actively avoid flying a specific type of aircraft would be the same type of person to avoid flying entirely during COVID.
Jump to postThe full current list for BOS destinations, including those operated by Delta's "core partners," in the coming seven days (thus picking up anything that operates less than daily, but excludes currently suspended or out-of-season routes), is: (All are at least daily by Delta unless listed o...
Jump to postSorry to disappoint y'all. That photo is fake. The only Envoy 170 that has gone to paint so far has been N761RW, and it's not in heritage paint. are you sure? N760mq and N762dt are in macon which has paint. N761rw is in abeline and i havent seen abeline airport paint planes. Are these brand new reg...
Jump to postIn fact, YWG was Northwest's first ever international destination.
Jump to postI think true cross-fleeting didn’t happen until recently. I know equipment has moved around since the merger but it seems as if the fleet is now everywhere and doesn’t discriminate between hubs. Not long ago most of the ex-US hubs were operated mostly by airbus aircraft. PHX had tons of 738s almost...
Jump to postairlinepeanuts wrote:MSP-LAX is a route AA flew not that long ago, within the last 5 years.
Vast majority of recent comments in this thread are non-aviation at this point
Jump to postJust for reference, here are the UA destinations that are served from DEN but nowhere else, at least in the current schedule (some of the ski stuff might have additional flights next winter but are not currently loaded): Flagstaff, Hayden/Steamboat Springs, Eagle/Vail, Pueblo, Alamosa, Durango, Gra...
Jump to postJust for reference, here are the UA destinations that are served from DEN but nowhere else, at least in the current schedule (some of the ski stuff might have additional flights next winter but are not currently loaded): Flagstaff, Hayden/Steamboat Springs, Eagle/Vail, Pueblo, Alamosa, Durango, Gran...
Jump to postReally more why Denver. It’s not like there is much there that can’t be served over ORD/IAH/LAX/SFO. Dallas is a huge local market to the Subcontinent and a growing one to Africa. My sentiments exactly. DFW makes sense, DEN does not. Though I'd like to hear what the DEN community has to say about t...
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