Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Bolsonaro's comments are a disgrace. He said "Ukranians have trusted a comedian with the fate of a nation" https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/bolsonaro-to-adopt-neutral-stance-on-ukraine-refuses-to-sanction-russia-over-invasion-articleshow.html "Brazilians...

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

There is no way Ukraine wins this conflict. By continuing all they are doing is condemning hundreds and perhaps thousands of innocent people to untimely death they should surrender as soon as possible and play the long game. Their model should be France in World War II Are you starting a "Let'...

Re: Rumor: Delta 330 order

That isn't entirely true. It depends on materiality - and what you think is material is far lower than what actually is for these corporations. There are plenty of examples of publicly-traded companies (in the US even) having unidentified orders. Either way, I think his point was we may not have &q...

Re: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Order A359/737-900ER

I wonder if this is being flown by a Delta crew, a crew from Lion Air Group or maybe contract pilots? Delta pilots aren’t allowed to fly planes that aren’t on their operating certificate. That is absolutely not true. I was one of the initial pilots for the 717. Prior to delivery of our aircraft, we...

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

$500 millions in parts stock doesn't mean anything if you rotate through that stock 4 or 5 times a year, compared to less than one. The bigger your operation, the bigger your stock; what matters is how much you rotate it in a 12-month period. I think we are missing a big point here: it looks like D...

Re: My Doctor Tried To Talk Me Out Of Getting A COVID Vaccine

This was absolutely hilarious reading all the Trumpers come in here and doubt this story when not a single thing was remotely unbelievable. Priceless. Not really, I wouldn't believe it. It's pretty dumb. A doctors office whether in the open or not is not a place for any political stuff. It's the la...

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

Not much need for missionaries to convert people in FCO, FRA or LHR. Which is what SLC traffic is about. True, but FRA and LHR offer flights to almost everywhere missionaries would be going. Not on any of Delta's partners. Delta would much prefer to send European travelers from SLC to or via AMS or...

Re: Delta to require new employees be vaccinated..

You are definitely using independent thought - and, apparently, your own "independent" numbers (and no "real data" at all). Maybe you could provide us with some actual, legitimate sources and facts... ... but I doubt it. You can't win an argument with someone who has already mad...

Re: United intl route announcement Monday 4/19

Hey kids, we're going to Bosnia for summer vacation! Well, Dubrovnik is in Croatia, so maybe take a look at a map first? And Bosnia has some beautiful places to visit too. Seriously, pick up a book. In all fairness, Dubrovnik is in an isolated sliver of Croatia, surrounded by Bosnia an all land sid...

Re: Football (Soccer} Super League

Why should some teams be guaranteed places in the Super League? I like the idea that the most modest team can work its way up the league structure to the Champions league. And I like the idea that even the most famous teams in the world are not immune to relegation. That's the way sports should be....

Re: Football (Soccer} Super League

I think the big clubs have overplayed there hand. The German club's not wanting to go along and British football fans going bunkers over it, hopefully will put the nails in the coffin of this stupid idea for a few years... I hope you are right. The greed of the "already haves" is on full ...

Re: Georgia Election Law Controversy

Aaron747 wrote:

Gramps is well earned if one goes around spreading uncited junk theory while promoting anachronistic 1954 values.

Re: Georgia Election Law Controversy

You ask for examples from the bill and you have been given those examples over and over again. Still, you say they don't count and want examples. You have all the information from the bill itself and everyone telling you what the bill says word for word that takes away people's voting. You have the...

Re: Norwegian Ends Plans to Fly Longhaul

Yes but even with that logic the business plan failed. Maybe it's time to try something else. There is a lot of VFR traffic in both directions across the Atlantic in the markets I suggested. We know the big boys failed so next time maybe try the second string markets with little or no LCC competiti...

Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020

I'm not flying to ORD if I'm going from Detroit to Europe. I grew up in a time where people were not made to fly thousands of miles out of the way just to get a decent fare. DTW and ORD are not "thousands of miles" away. Actually, they are less than a third of that: 295 miles. Unless some...

Re: NY Attorney General sues to disband the NRA

Trying to disband the NRA by governmental fiat is arguably the biggest political blunder of the election season. Trump is going to milk it for everything it is worth - and rightly so. Do you really not understand the difference in "government fiat" and "trial before a Court"? Do...

Re: NY Attorney General sues to disband the NRA

If you truly believe that corporations are people then you MUST be supportive of a corporation’s right to run for elected office. Are you willing to give the NRA that right? If not, them you finally get it. Since you are so much smarter than anyone else, you really should take your argument to the ...

Re: Portland, OR: Perpetual negative news item

The whole operation was an attempt to excuse conservatives' horrific handling of Covid19 and the economy. Y'all always need a boogeyman to be terrified of, and antifa fit the bill, even though their threat to...literally anything is approaching zero. It's driven conservatives into such a frenzy the...

Re: Portland, OR: Perpetual negative news item

Is this an attempt to excuse the attempts to blind officers, throw explosives at them, and to hit them over the head with hammers? I’m not following you. When will we dispense with the fiction that all of the Portland protestors have been peaceful and non-instigators? Is this an attempt to claim al...

Re: Portland, OR: Perpetual negative news item

Is this an attempt to excuse the attempts to blind officers, throw explosives at them, and to hit them over the head with hammers? I’m not following you. When will we dispense with the fiction that all of the Portland protestors have been peaceful and non-instigators? Is this an attempt to claim al...

Re: Portland, OR: Perpetual negative news item

Things are heading in a much better direction, but the most recent report says that a Molotov cocktail was thrown and that there was attempted arson. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/08/02/portland-riots-read-out-august-2 Hopefully things will continue to improve. All it took was moving Trump's privat...

Re: Trump Healthcare Plan Imminent

I hope it will be at least as good as his Coronavirus plan.

Honk Kong Postpones Elections for One Year

Hong Kong has done what Trump couldn't do: Carrie Lam has delayed the legislative elections for one year. Using Covid-19 as the excuse, this means the current council will remain in office for another 12 months: 'Hong Kong’s embattled leader set off another political storm on Friday by invoking emer...

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

The economics is very simple. Delta added far more domestic capacity to SEA than the growth in passengers, despite there being a boom in passengers. . Really? Show us the numbers. Delta has a higher operating cost than Alaska. Here again, let us see numbers - facts - and we can draw our own conclus...

Re: Portland, OR: Perpetual negative news item

Saying it in capital letters does not make it true. From the Los Angeles Times: Legal experts agree the president and the Department of Homeland Security have the authority written into law to protect federal buildings and property, even if state and local officials prefer that they had stayed away...

Re: Portland, OR: Perpetual negative news item

The Oregon Attorney General is a political actor... I suppose you would contend Trump and his lapdog Barr aren't political actors... :roll: The Feds didn't just show up for no reason. They came because the police in Portland were unable to protect their property. The Feds didn't just show up for no...

Re: OAG Changes 7/28/2020:SLOW BLEED;AA Cuts LAX-EUG/FAT/MFR/RDM/SAN/SDF,LGA-TYS,ORD-SCE;DL Drops HAV/TGU/BOS Shrinks

They didn't cut schedule that much a week out. Most of the cuts are for September. Check the updated list. By my count it looks like ~89 daily departures cut from a plan of ~170. That's pretty Mass-ive. (Apologies for the pun.) There is also a couple of routes they didn't cut and didn't show up on ...

Re: US F15 intercepting Iran's Mahan Air A300 resulted in several injuries

The US commented hours ago as follows: The Mahan Air plane flew somewhere near a military base. Two fighters went up to take a look. One stayed back and one pulled close enough to identify the jet as civilian -- about 1-2 km -- then pulled away. The whole thing was by-the-book and professional, lik...

Re: Russian Hackers Are Trying to Steal Coronavirus Vaccine Research

Do you have any evidence to back that up.... or is this just more Russian propaganda? As I understand it, it is all in the preliminary stage, only tested on about 20 persons, normally hundreds or thousands. So no indication that the Ruski's are ahead. But great, if it works I will celebrate it and ...

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

However, if their ownership stakes get wiped out, those airlines could easily turn their backs on delta down the line People keep saying this, but what exact incentive do these airlines have to leave DL? Particularly VS and AM who have active JVs with DL and have partnered together for years now? L...

Re: SCOTUS Strikes again: Abortion rights prevail

I wonder if all of those protestors who thought that the appointment of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch would result in Roe v. Wade being overturned are just a little embarrassed right now? I remember some pretty impressive histrionics. I wonder if all of those right wing nuts who thought that the appointmen...

Re: DAL Q2 2020 earnings thread

Well, if it makes you feel any better, you can smile as you work to pay your taxes which will go in part to the $2B they lost during their foreign airline investing adventures There needs to be a law preventing any airline receiving bailout funds if it has wasted money investing in overseas airline...

Re: Time for Trump to fire Fauci?

Like I said you didn't make a stink when Trump lied so your hissyfit over this is not believable. Sad! I’m struggling to see how that as a valid justification for Fauci’s lies. Me neither but it's your go to tactic in every other thread so why not try it here on you :rotfl: :checkmark: I don't know...

Re: Major Expansion B6 at EWR and JFK

They are not adding EWR-ATL anytime soon. There are too many lower hanging fruits for them to go for such a ambitious route. Here are good criteria for what JetBlue will pick to operate out of EWR: - Stuff that they do well out of JFK So now you are telling us that JetBlue does not do well on the J...

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

I'm really laughing by some comments here. How on earth getting out of a monopoly is positive for LA? They dominate with ease South America - MAD traffic (IB) and for connections they had LHR (BA). We have more European partners than that; and nothing has changed with any of our European partners. ...

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

i think you definitely have a point there. There were quite a few articles on how the LA/JJ merger was probably not as brilliant an idea as it seemed. TAM has not had a very good history of profitability (the nature of Brazilian economy is also perhaps a factor there, but they never seemed to be ab...

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

It's kind of ridiculous to say that losing dominant carrier partnership at the largest NA market and largest 2 European market is not a big loss. Plenty of people buy connecting itineraries of code shared and interlined alliance partners in OW without JV. I used to always pick OW airlines when I wa...

Re: OAG Changes 5/24/2020:The Summer of George;DL Hacks July;AS Adds DEN-PDX,FAT-LAX,GEG-SJC, Suspends JFK-LAX Till Fall

DTWLAX wrote:

DL serving AMS only from ATL and DTW.
I thought we may see a frequency from JFK but looks like DL is leaving that for KLM.

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

It’s crazy how so many people here speak opinions as fact. LA would be able to recapture the AA feed with delta adding flights to the top 20 markets in MIA. I think people believe that AA brought more to LA than they really did. That was why it was so easy for DL to take them away. It wasn’t just t...

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Actually JNB is one of DL’s most profitable routes. Delta prints gold both ways on this route, we shouldn’t be surprised if this route actually returns July 2nd like it says in the system. Not anymore they don’t. Not for quite a while. With the 777’s retired, they don’t think so either. The announc...

Re: UA planning layoffs but not AA, DL etc..?

There were furloughs at DL following 9/11. All but the most oblivious members of the population know that the current crisis is many times worse than 9/11 ever was. You can bet there will be significant furloughs at DL later this year and into 2021, just as there will be at most carriers. Anyone wh...

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Speaking of DL 777’s, anybody know what’s up with these DL 777 flights utilitizing DL 777LR on ATL-ORD-FRA-ATL.Last one on N701DN departed ORD last night and is due to depart FRA for ATL tomorrow. Same flight was operated ten days ago, too if you look like past flight history. ORD-FRA-ATL https://f...

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

I wonder if JFK-BOM might come back on the A359, as that should be possible with the 280t A359s. That said, given that the B77Ls are owned outright, I'm surprised they're being retired. (TPAC from SEA can be covered by the A339.) I know a lot of people here think JFK-BOM would not come back, but it...

Re: OAG Changes 5/10/2020: JUNE DECIMATION; DL Suspends BUR/CAK/HPN/LGB/MDW/MHT/OAK/PVD/SWF Till Fall

NWAESC wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

I see your losing all your ATL flights.

Been gone for over a month now...

Re: OAG Changes 5/3/2020: The New Abnormal

*UA BOM-EWR JUN 0.9>0[1.0] JUL 1.0>0[1.0] AUG 1.0>0[0] SEP 1.0>0.8[0.8] UA DEL-EWR JUN 0.9>0[0] UA DEL-SFO JUN 0.4>0[0] This is interesting. Must be the COVID numbers in Mumbai! India has a total lockdown on all air travel, and has not announced a date when that will be lifted. https://www.nytimes....

Re: OAG Changes 5/3/2020: The New Abnormal

In fact, how many TATL flights DL is still flying in June? That might be a much short list than the flights cut! ATL-LHR 4x weekly 764 ATL-CDG 5x weekly A333 ATL-AMS Daily A333 JFK-CDG 3x weekly 764 JFK-AMS 3x weekly 764 JFK-TLV 3-4x weekly A333 DTW-AMS Daily 763 AF ATL-CDG JUN 2>1.3[2] AF BOS-CDG ...

Re: The future of Skyteam - is there any?

DL doesn't even interline with some SkyTeam members like MF. In what way are they not a dummy partner? You are sorely misinformed. Interline Electronic Ticketing Agreements (IET) Delta has Interline Electronic Ticketing Agreements with the following carriers. Please note: New ticketing agreements m...

Re: The future of Skyteam - is there any?

Of course, there is DL that proactively sets out ‘real’ partners from dummy partners. The differing levels of partnership (especially due to JVs) happen in all the alliances. Look at UA's level of cooperation with LH vs LO, or NH vs OZ or SQ. Look at AA's cooperation with JL vs CX. These to me don'...

Re: Just for grins, I priced an AS tag-on...

MIflyer12 wrote:

They don't expect anybody to fly it, not any more than they would expect O&D traffic on EAT-GEG.

Re: The future of Skyteam - is there any?

...their CEO goes out and says Skyteam provides no value. That alone should be enough to be obvious how Delta feels about Skyteam if Bastian's comments weren't enough. Is that really what he said? Or did he say: The CEO of Delta, arguably Skyteam's most important member, said Skyteam had little val...