Both cities in the Midwest - a competitor to delta is adding the route - combine that with American also doing the route and Turkish doing direct ist- there’s opportunity to respond with a dtw-ath But I’m doubtful they will. I personally think DTW-BCN would come before DTW-ATH, since that's the gen...
Jump to postUnited is adding Chicago to Athens this summer The optimistic side of me says that plane that was going to do the second dtw-lhr is available But the pessimistic side of me says they will add a second Atlanta instead What? What does UA adding ORD-ATH have anything to do with LHR and DL? I’m confuse...
Jump to postThings like JAX, RSW, SRQ, et cetera ... Think MSN, MKE, GRR, STL, OMA, et cetera. Realistically, how much traffic is there from Scandinavia to these places though?! Not much on the Scandinavian side (as far as I'm aware), granted, but there's also quite a few Americans that go to Copenhagen. ATL/M...
Jump to postThe merger opened up many more connecting options for travelers - particularly those traveling from the eastern seaboard (such as RIC) or western states. Other than O&D, which airports across the USA would be better served through Detroit than through ATL, MSP, or one of the east coast gateways...
Jump to postThis route makes perfect sense since SK is joining SkyTeam and possibly even the Delta+friends joint venture. DL can provide hundreds of flights a day from ATL to cities all across America. ATL covers the southern states really well, especially. While major cities like MIA will likely make sense to ...
Jump to postBA and VS were flying UK-Pakistan in 2021-2022 because east Asia was closed during Covid and the airlines wanted a way to use their aircraft instead of grounding their fleet. It was not because Pakistan was very profitable... it's because the countries were open despite Covid The idea that VFR isn’...
Jump to postBA and VS are no longer flying to Pakistan? Is this because of safety concerns? I wonder if airblue and airsial would suffice and suddenly grow should PIA disappear. PIA suffers the same type of mismanagement and political interference as AI, but Pakistan doesn't have the economic growth and newer ...
Jump to postspinkid wrote:Aer Lingus serves it double daily. with A330. I'd be surprised to see them add a 3rd.
Perhaps United will launch this
I’m betting on an expansion of the UA-EK deal including IAD-DXB, complementing EWR-DXB. Also maybe throw in some fun routes from ORD to secondary Europe—maybe UA will challenge AA on ATH.
Jump to postMy money is on where ever AA is adding from ORD, it will be seasonal at best, and dropped within a year or 2. That’s great positivity there Just trying to be realistic, I never read 'new ORD route' and thought permanent expansion. And I'm correct on half of what I said so far. It's seasonal to VCE....
Jump to postDetroit313 wrote:PHL - Nice, Istanbul, Helsinki
DFW - Barcelona
ORD - Venice
What about something to KHI, ISB or LHE? Unfortunately, never happening. The US3 will never fly to Pakistan, not as long as the U.S. and Pakistan’s political interests are aligned with their respective enemies. (The U.S. with India, and Pakistan with China.) Besides, the only European carrier flyin...
Jump to postalfa164 wrote:TryToFlySomeday wrote:What will happen to my reservation? Booked ORD-GRU-SDU and back a few weeks ago on UA and GOL interline agreement. Should I be worried?
It is effective next January. When are you traveling?
dfdubflyer wrote:The next to last emoji made me think shawarma and perhaps Amman
What will happen to my reservation? Booked ORD-GRU-SDU and back a few weeks ago on UA and GOL interline agreement. Should I be worried?
Jump to postI know a.net is notorious for armchair CEOs, but here's what I think anyways. Although I agree AA won't dehub ORD for all the reasons that people have stated already, I think they SHOULD dehub ORD and replace it with a bigger CLT. Add some more smaller domestic flights (like the Midwest's smaller ci...
Jump to postAlaska Airlines has loaded SAN-ZIH Saturday service beginning 12/23. Bookable online and the app! Also ORD-ZIH starting 12/30 is bookable. That one has to be tied in to the Apple Vacations contract they have, otherwise it would be an easy candidate for dart board route of the year. Maybe AS will ge...
Jump to postAS? Are you sure? I don't think Alaska is running this flight... One that is missing is AS to ZIH weekly starting in December. It's probably a apple charter, but nevertheless another tail at T5. I don't see AV either...but they have a few planned too. As for Y4, only once Mexico gets back to CAT 1,...
Jump to postAny chance that Avelo may launch AZO-LAS in the future ?
Jump to postGreat news in this week’s DL schedule update. AZO/LAN-DTW are finally returning to 3x daily starting Sept 10. Previously announced, but MBS-DTW is back to 3x on July 10. Getting AZO/LAN/MBS up to 3x daily is huge, as it makes a lot more connections possible (and convenient) to/from those markets. I...
Jump to postPakistan is on the verge of becoming a failed state. There's a raft of problems including crippling electricity blackouts which add to the country's economic woes and foreign exchange reserves have plummeted to under US$10bn, barely enough to pay for more than a few weeks' imports, and the the arre...
Jump to postEven Pakistan is about to be canned now. Pretty much a game of deck chair chess I’m a American-born Pakistani, still living in the U.S. — I visit Pakistan every once in a while — and I can tell you VS was gonna leave Pakistan anyways. The economy of Pakistan is going south, with the PKR (rupee) con...
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BangersAndMash wrote:AA teasing 10 new TATL routes, including JFK-LIS and DFW-MXP. Wonder what the other 8 are.
Hello everyone! Good news for AZO! AA is going 3x daily on the ORD-AZO-ORD route. Found out when my AZO-ORD-IAH ticket was changed by AA from a roughly 4pm departure out of AZO to a 12:20pm departure out of AZO. While looking for alternate flights since that time didn’t work for me I noticed they st...
Jump to postThe bigger issue seems to be AA’s drawdown and not UA upgauging or lack of gates. Until AA starts adding frequencies again on some busy routes like SFO, SEA, and bringing back some old destinations ORD will be #2. My two cents: I'm not one for conspiracy theories (unless I have existing trends to b...
Jump to postThe bigger issue seems to be AA’s drawdown and not UA upgauging or lack of gates. Until AA starts adding frequencies again on some busy routes like SFO, SEA, and bringing back some old destinations ORD will be #2. My two cents: I'm not one for conspiracy theories (unless I have existing trends to b...
Jump to postFeel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but is the rule of VFR being unprofitable a hard and fast rule? The UK - Pakistan market is HUGE, the Pakistani population in the UK makes up what I believe is Britain's second largest ethnic minority (I think only Indians have a larger ethnic group in the UK), ...
Jump to postEthiopian starting ADD-KHI on 3/26. Been rumored for a little while now, and I’m guessing it’ll be on the MAX or 738. https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airlines-karachi-flights-march/ How long does one think the layover in ADD will be to KHI coming from *A hubs like ORD/IAD? Would love to reach KH...
Jump to posthttps://www.dawn.com/news/1736407
It's official, I think? ET has announced a start date for ADD-KHI. March 26, 2023.
It seems Ethiopian will target traffic to Africa from Pakistan, based on the frequency proposed: from what I've heard, the flight between ADD and KHI will run 2x weekly.
Any connections to Europe and ORD/IAD would be the cherry on top.
Significant news, if true. I believe this would be the first significant airline not from the Middle East to add service to KHI in about over a decade.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2386748/et ... ct-flights
royroy wrote:Potential for MAN-ISB return?
The value that VS could bring to ST is non-stop from LHR to SE Asia, India, and Africa. Currently those are huge gaps in the ST coverage. In addition, VS is one of the only western airlines serving Pakistan at all, full stop. They serve LHE and ISB, both from LHR. Though Pakistan's market is mostly...
Jump to postCall me crazy, but I think PK being sold to QR would be a decent idea... if QR actually wants to put in the work to turn it around, which it probably won't want to cause it'll eat into QR's profits, at least for quite a few years. I'd advocate for a PK/QR JV on Pakistan-DOH, and PK readjusting their...
Jump to postORD-Pakistan on PK. (My parents always said it was a nonstop to KHI, but returned via MAN, but that I'm not so sure about.) I was a very young child. Never saying never, but it's probably not coming back. ORD-BCN on PIA, great flight. PK used to offer an ORD-KHI IIRC. It might've been ORD-ISB. Not s...
Jump to postXP AZO-MCO? Dang, I was hoping for something that actually offered beyond-connectivity, like a hypothetical DL AZO-ATL or AA AZO-CLT.
That said, I assume that this flight will do good.
And better MCO than nothing. Maybe I could use XP/EK on separate tickets AZO-MCO-DXB-KHI when I next visit family.
You think India has it bad? Least you guys have nonstops to ORD/JFK, in KHI my family can't even get a flight to London or Paris. It's always the same story: overpay for flights via DOH/DXB. (Not trying to be aggressive fyi, just putting things into context because I often am jealous of India's vas...
Jump to postYou think India has it bad? Least you guys have nonstops to ORD/JFK, in KHI my family can't even get a flight to London or Paris. It's always the same story: overpay for flights via DOH/DXB. (Not trying to be aggressive fyi, just putting things into context because I often am jealous of India's vast...
Jump to postx1234 wrote:China Eastern PVG-ATL?
Kalamazoo just posted that they have an announcement tomorrow. I have a feeling this is also Avelo. I'm guessing AZO-MCO? I'm selfishly hoping for AA to expand at AZO, either by putting more frequency into ORD or by adding a different hub destination (I know CLT was floated around as a possibility ...
Jump to postDoes anyone know if ORD-VCE is resuming? Would love to have an actual chance to use that flight.
Jump to postWell even though I'm ORD-based, I'd love to see at least one Europe - KHI route on a European carrier.
My preferences are in this order:
BA LHR - KHI
VS LHR - KHI
LH FRA - KHI
Unlikely? Yes. Do I think they could work? Well, LH maybe since KHI has unusually high demand to IAH.
This is great news! I'd use these routes myself but (A) none of these flights go to KHI and (B) I'm an AS elite member, so I'd rather fly BA than VS for the AS miles.
But in any case, thank you VS for investing in Pakistan! I wish you the best of luck in LHE and ISB!
I don't know if anyone's been saying this, but my guess is someone has said this. Some people may be assuming that if AS vanishes at SEA because of DL's competition knocking them off, that AS has no hope. That's not entirely true, although with this pandemic it certainly looks grimmer. Remember, AS ...
Jump to postIt is easy to say the conflict is stupid when you don't know anyone who has been seriously injured because of it. My closest family friends live a few hours north of Lahore in the beautiful Neelum Valley and I used to visit them quite frequently until a few years ago as I always enjoyed going there...
Jump to postImagine being foolish enough to think India would hold its side of the table. They will take full advantage of a peace agreement to annex the whole of Kashmir the next day. As Iran's FM Zarif eloquently says, appeasement does not work in an environment of mutual distrust. If you can count on one th...
Jump to postCan we just agree that India and Pakistan need to sign a climate change agreement and a nuclear arms control deal, and call Kashmir disputed? Imagine being foolish enough to think India would hold its side of the table. They will take full advantage of a peace agreement to annex the whole of Kashmi...
Jump to postCan we just agree that India and Pakistan need to sign a climate change agreement and a nuclear arms control deal, and call Kashmir disputed?
Jump to postDid not expect SEA-BLR. I was betting on PHL-DEL.
Anyways, I’m glad AS and AA are partners again, I live in ORD and I’m an AS member so this is great news for me