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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 1480
Views: 127390

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

CVG news has been slow lately so I'll give just a small update on things happening that I've noticed. 1. Vino Volo in Concourse A is open. It's not as big as the one in B and I haven't been to B since the one in A opened so I don't know if both are up and running. One thing I have noticed is that t...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

Rest assured DL or a Skyteam partner will be linking MSY with either AMS or CDG. The market is there - it's very likely more inbound heavy with tourist/business/oil-gas related traffic/crew change related. The power of either hub is significant and offers connections to smaller markets in Europe th...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

All speculation, but that's one of the places the slot could be used, why use it on a non hub or non focus market? RDU already has AA to LHR, and a DL flight would saturate it. MCO could be a logical option, but I would put CVG in 3rd priority behind DTW going back to 2x daily, MCO getting LHR, and...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

Is there any word at all about DL launching CVG-LHR or is that just a.net speculation? I could see them replacing CVG-CDG with CVG-LHR, but two DL TATL flights out of CVG? Eh, I don't know. If DL were to start CVG-LHR, it would almost certainly be in addition to CDG, since DL has very little connec...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 1480
Views: 127390

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

CVG news has been slow lately so I'll give just a small update on things happening that I've noticed. 1. Vino Volo in Concourse A is open. It's not as big as the one in B and I haven't been to B since the one in A opened so I don't know if both are up and running. One thing I have noticed is that t...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Illinois State Thread
Replies: 8
Views: 729

Re: The Illinois State Thread

When there is one VERY large market in a state....isn't it better to separate it from the rest of the state? But anyway...is B6 still trying to secure more gates @ ORD? I believe the numerous attempts to have a Chicago thread have never panned out. For whatever reason, the Chicago airports aren’t a...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

I think the BA flight will do at least as well as MSY, and while I don't ever see the BA flight being as successful as AUS You just contradicted yourself within a single sentence. Though MSY started with one less weekly frequency than AUS, it's growing at the same (and in some months, slightly fast...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

Is there any word at all about DL launching CVG-LHR or is that just a.net speculation? I could see them replacing CVG-CDG with CVG-LHR, but two DL TATL flights out of CVG? Eh, I don't know. At this point, it is all a.net speculation (hence why I did not mention it). The only hard information I have...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

Interestingly DL has cut its 3rd frequency on ATL-LHR, giving it two daily LHR slots not being used starting this Spring. MCO, I'm telling you, and than split the last slot between DTW and CVG to make DTW's LHR flight 2x daily and CVG a new LHR flight. Is there any word at all about DL launching CV...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Alright, this discussion needs to end. Bottom line is: neither IND or BNA will be getting TPAC service anytime soon. I don't think the Asian carriers are ready to expand into mid-sized markets in the Eastern United States yet. No reason to close the thread, just keep it Nashville ce...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

Getting back to the original rumor that DL is possibly going to add up to 6 new AMS-US routes, these are the cities that I see getting DL AMS routes: RDU- because DL loves RDU, and their CDG flight seems to be doing well. AUS- rumor is that it will become a permanent flight. LAS- the Brookings numb...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 597
Views: 41977

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

I don't see why both won't last, let's wait for May of next year before we start jumping to conclusions.... True, but it does seem odd that DL launched IND-CDG (as opposed to say AMS) when CVG-CDG is not terribly far away. It leads me to believe that there is a 50-50 chance CVG loses its Paris flig...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

I will say, if DL were to launch BNA-AMS, it would be a huge slap in the face to MEM. Why? I doubt MEM is expecting TATL service any time soon. So much has changed in both Memphis and Nashville and in the industry environment since KLM flew MEM-AMS that it is relatively ancient history. I was just ...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 597
Views: 41977

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Let's face it, Delta launched it because the state bribed them enough to do it. They probably had little interest in it otherwise. But with a guarentee from the state, they're probably guarenteed a profit. The fact is that Delta has no interest in competing on price. Reaching Europe from Indiana wi...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

I would like to add my CONSIDERABLE 2CENTS, and say AMS will be adding in near future: AUS BNA DEN SAN STL seem like very plausible adds in near future Remember what value I placed on this. I will say, if DL were to launch BNA-AMS, it would be a huge slap in the face to MEM. I doubt DL launches any...

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by ADrum23
Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 395
Views: 36361

Re: DL Future Expansion

Any rumors on new AMS flights? I would like to add my CONSIDERABLE 2CENTS, and say AMS will be adding in near future: AUS BNA DEN SAN STL seem like very plausible adds in near future Remember what value I placed on this. I will say, if DL were to launch BNA-AMS, it would be a huge slap in the face ...

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by ADrum23
Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Alright, this discussion needs to end.

Bottom line is: neither IND or BNA will be getting TPAC service anytime soon. I don't think the Asian carriers are ready to expand into mid-sized markets in the Eastern United States yet.

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by ADrum23
Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

I wouldn't expect a daily flight to TYO, and I believe there is precedent in flying less than daily (to start). IIRC, BOS and SAN did not start out as daily for JL, though not totally certain. While not as large of a presence as west coast cities, having two major Japanese companies, with industria...

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by ADrum23
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

2-3 years seems more realistic? I don't know if that comment was about the facilities or about the demand. As far as the facilities, 2-3 years is realistic. As far as the demand, we may be close to a point where something like an AA 788 3-4 times a week would work (maybe split with a city like IND)...

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by ADrum23
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

I would agree on the Tokyo flight. It could probably be done with the temporary FIS since the ground times for such a flight and the BA flight wouldn't overlap. 2-3 years seems more realistic. When will the new FIS be completed, and when will ground break on the BNA vision project? An expanded, tem...

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by ADrum23
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL new summer 2018 transatlantic flights
Replies: 190
Views: 22440

Re: DL new summer 2018 transatlantic flights

And yet, nothing from AUS to either AMS or CDG...........

Amazing. I am utterly shocked AUS has not been able to land a second year round full service TATL flight.

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by ADrum23
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

As southwest1675 said, I think this is just Branson talking, and I think it probably came up at the hotel ground breaking. I doubt VS will serve BNA. There are a few foreign carriers that would add service once the permanent FIS facility is in place, but thats down the road a bit. Agree. I wish the...

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by ADrum23
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

The link requires a subscription. SRB was in town a couple of weeks ago for the ground breaking of the Virgin Hotel downtown. If I had my druthers I'd prefer VS over BA, but you're probably right. Getting himself a little P. R. I'm surprised by the number of people in Nashville I've talked to that ...

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by ADrum23
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 43167

Re: BA's Next US Destination

Really wish Burbank (BUR) could see service to LHR. A 787-8 can technically operate from the airport. There is no FIS, but they could do a Shannon stop on the way over to do customs and immigration there. Burbank is so conveniently located to the majority of the film industry studios and offices. I...

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by ADrum23
Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2017/09/21/another-nonstop-nashvilleflight-to-london-of.html I think Branson is just looking for attention, but this would be interesting. The link requires a subscription. SRB was in town a couple of weeks ago for the ground breaking of the Virgin Hotel d...

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by ADrum23
Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 43167

Re: BA's Next US Destination

Really wish Burbank (BUR) could see service to LHR. A 787-8 can technically operate from the airport. There is no FIS, but they could do a Shannon stop on the way over to do customs and immigration there. Burbank is so conveniently located to the majority of the film industry studios and offices. I...

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by ADrum23
Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories
Replies: 245
Views: 24378

Re: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories

This is getting ridiculous. What the heck is WN trying to do here? They are the largest domestic air service carrier and they STILL don't fly to Hawaii? To WN: What are you trying to prove here? You should have been to Hawaii years ago. Stop making excuses and get going on Hawaiian service already, ...

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by ADrum23
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories
Replies: 245
Views: 24378

Re: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories

Like BA to ..., WN to AK, HI, and Canada is never ending thread here! If money was to be made and it would work, WN would be there today! Well, they will go to all of those places eventually (probably only seasonal to AK though), so it's just a matter of planning. Hawaii is the next logical market ...

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by ADrum23
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways coming to MCI?
Replies: 42
Views: 6373

Re: British Airways coming to KCI?

No offense, but another day and another “BA to ...” thread. Every airport with US CBP feels entitled to LHR and CUN service. Tomorrow will be another thread about BA to..., just insert ABQ, ANC, BDL, BHM, CLE, CMH, CVG, DTW, ELP, FAT, GEG, GSO, GYY, HNL, HPN, ICT, ISP, JAN, JAX, LIT, MEM, MKE, MSN,...

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by ADrum23
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories
Replies: 245
Views: 24378

Re: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories

Question.

When WN gets the 737 MAX 7 in 2019 (which can go almost 4,000 nmi), could that open up the possibility for direct Hawaiian service for select cities east of the Rocky Mountains (since the current 737 MAX 8 likely couldn't do anything east of DEN)? Cities such as their home base of DAL?

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by ADrum23
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories
Replies: 245
Views: 24378

Re: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories

why would they merge with HA and B6? Why? HA doesn't need B6 to compete against WN US West Coast-Hawaii. They already codeshare with them for feed. Merging does little for either carrier. HA already has 321N's on order and will have them deployed long before the first Part 121 WN flight touches dow...

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by ADrum23
Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways coming to MCI?
Replies: 42
Views: 6373

Re: British Airways coming to KCI?

No, I doubt BA comes to MCI anytime within the next ten years. Is is not a fast growing area and is not a huge draw tourism-wise. They may have a business case, but STL, CMH and even CVG and CLE all have far better cases. However, I could see WW or DY starting service within the next few years for s...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NK schedule extension late spring/early summer
Replies: 37
Views: 3025

Re: NK schedule extension late spring/early summer

zackary747 wrote:
Anyone know the exact day that Spirit is extending their schedules?


That is what I am wondering too.

Anyone....... anyone........ Bueller?

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories
Replies: 245
Views: 24378

Re: Southwest to Hawaii ---- Theories

So apparently rumor is that Southwest will be possibly making the much anticipated 'Hawaii' announcement this week in Honolulu. They are the largest corporate sponsor at this week's Global Tourism Summit at the Hawaii Convention Center and are flying in a group of Southwest representatives to the s...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL Air Service Discussion
Replies: 338
Views: 40029

Re: STL Air Service Discussion

Is CON adding new routes?

If so, it seems like STL, BNA and RDU would make the most sense for the next round of Condor expansion.

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?
Replies: 122
Views: 16928

Re: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?

Did anybody else find it weird how he replied "Nope" for almost all of the responses, except for MCO, he said "Can't say!" BA's 787 fleet is LHR based, and MCO-LHR is a gaping hole in their network... Well, he did say that this new destination has not been operated in quite a wh...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?
Replies: 122
Views: 16928

Re: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?

I don't think this will be a US destination, since they already announced BNA as their US destination for this year. Last year BA announced MSY, FLL and OAK within five weeks of each other around this time of year. So don't take that to the bank. The 789 only operates out of LHR if I am not mistake...

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?
Replies: 122
Views: 16928

Re: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?

787fan8 wrote:
CLT?


Why would they start CLT-LHR when AA already operates two daily flights on that route from there?

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?
Replies: 122
Views: 16928

Re: New BA route to be announced tomorrow?

I don't think this will be a US destination, since they already announced BNA as their US destination for this year.

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by ADrum23
Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NK schedule extension late spring/early summer
Replies: 37
Views: 3025

Re: NK schedule extension late spring/early summer

With the next schedule extension coming, what things do you see happening for Spirit? What would you like to see? Please be serious in this discussion, because we arent putting credit card machines at the bathrooms or charging extra for air. I think this is the extension that BNA or AUS could happe...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air axes Houston
Replies: 53
Views: 10529

Re: Korean Air axes Houston

ANA787 wrote:


Is this due, in part, to Harvey?

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could Icelandair make LGA work?
Replies: 32
Views: 3971

Re: Could Icelandair make LGA work?

If they get rid of the dumb perimeter rule (as they should), they could most definitely do it. Unfortunately, don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

I think they also ran BNA-ORD if I am not mistaken, but they no longer do. In any case, the most likely cities that NK will start from BNA are DTW, DFW and FLL IMO. I could also see NK starting service at RDU, IND, STL, etc, as well. I don't really care about NK or F6 anyway, I'd never fly them, bu...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 15666

Re: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018

747? They send it to PHX, SAN, PHL, DEN, why not BNA? Because those are all bigger markets than BNA. I don't ever see the BNA service being as successful as those markets. As I said, best case scenario for BNA is being upgauged to daily and a 789. That's what everyone said when BA launched AUS, so....

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 15666

Re: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018

This irritates me. Places like AUS and BNA getting LHR service .. and on 747s no less. Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but this is just wrong, Whats next? Duluth and Lubbock ? Why does it irritate you? BA chose to expand and they seem to be doing quite well. Plus, BNA hasn't even started yet, and when ...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 15666

Re: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018

This irritates me. Places like AUS and BNA getting LHR service .. and on 747s no less. Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but this is just wrong, Whats next? Duluth and Lubbock ? Why does it irritate you? BA chose to expand and they seem to be doing quite well. Plus, BNA hasn't even started yet, and when ...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 43167

Re: BA's Next US Destination

From downtown MKE to ORD is 1hour-1 hour and 25 minutes, makes sense that there would be a significant amount of TATL bleed from MKE to ORD. I've been to the Milwaukee suburbs many times. If I lived there I'd fly nonstop to Europe if I had the chance. There is nothing fun about driving to Chicago. ...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't DL keep main services from MEM?
Replies: 16
Views: 2832

Re: Why didn't DL keep main services from MEM?

Because MEM was too redundant and not much of a draw for O&D pax. Simple as that.

If this were BNA on the other hand, it would have been a completely different story......

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 320
Views: 22705

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

Didn't F9 fly to PHX last winter? They didn't bring it back this winter. They may have, I don't remember. I've found it difficult to follow ULCC strategy of less than daily flights. They apparently make sense to the carrier, but since I don't fly them anymore, I tend to forget about their ops. Yes ...

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by ADrum23
Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 15666

Re: BA upgauges AUS to 747 starting Summer 2018

Probably reading this wrong, but based on AUS stats, YTD in July 2017, there are less people flying BA than there were in 2016? https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/images/Airport/news_releases/activity_reports_files/July_2017.pdf Exciting news for Austin though! No you are reading it correc...

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