As an avgeek myself I'd like to see KLM take over one of the DTW-AMS flights. But does that make financial sense? No, not really. KLM doesn't currently have any operations in DTW, whereas DL has substantial ops in AMS. Keeping these services with DL piggybacks off existing ops more efficiently, and...
Jump to postAs an avgeek myself I'd like to see KLM take over one of the DTW-AMS flights. But does that make financial sense? No, not really. KLM doesn't currently have any operations in DTW, whereas DL has substantial ops in AMS. Keeping these services with DL piggybacks off existing ops more efficiently, and...
Jump to postLooks like the DTW-JFK route is losing its single mainline flight on December 22 and the route goes all RJ for a while. Don't care what the reason it that's downright pathetic for a hub-hub route. There are two damn good reasons: 1) LaGuardia. The portion of the local and NYC POS markets that prefe...
Jump to postLooks like the DTW-JFK route is losing its single mainline flight on December 22 and the route goes all RJ for a while. Don't care what the reason it that's downright pathetic for a hub-hub route. There are two damn good reasons: 1) LaGuardia. The portion of the local and NYC POS markets that prefe...
Jump to postIf an airline hates a city because of crime, bad rep, etc., they will refuse to talk to an airport authority or city or whichever entity runs the airport. Not saying EI hates DTW, but it wouldn't dawn on me if an airline did hate DTW, just as they hate ORD or ATL or MSP. That's nonsense. Airlines d...
Jump to postI was always under the impression if B6 ever added more DCA routes, EWR would be first just on lack of competition alone What are you talking about? United has flown this route since the merger, and Continental for years before that. UA operated DCA-EWR 7x today. That's the point - only one carrier...
Jump to postBOS-MAN (VS) - 46.17% load factor I find this as a complete insult to the Detroit hub. VS/DL operates this flight with a subpar load factor but refuses to move it to a hub with numerous connections that could help this flight get better loads. Delta would NEVER allow a flight like this to exist out...
Jump to postI was always under the impression if B6 ever added more DCA routes, EWR would be first just on lack of competition alone Same answer as a bunch of other posts: train. Any city with a direct Amtrak connection downtown from NYC southwards (as Newark does, with easy transfers to PATH if you want to go...
Jump to postBOS-MAN (VS) - 46.17% load factor I find this as a complete insult to the Detroit hub. VS/DL operates this flight with a subpar load factor but refuses to move it to a hub with numerous connections that could help this flight get better loads. Delta would NEVER allow a flight like this to exist out...
Jump to postFound a Haitian outlet (in French) saying that this is fake news.
http://www.loophaiti.com/content/non-la ... ort-dhaiti
The alliance system is fading out of relevance with the rise of JVs. TS, therefore, is unlikely to join any alliance. Whether it'll end up in JVs (either DL/AF/KL/VS or AA/BA/IB/AY) is a different question entirely. If I were a betting man, I'd say that it probably won't (not their business model), ...
Jump to postThe WCAA doesn't have the money to fund airlines like that, and nobody in the state of Michigan is going to give the WCAA money for a leisure route. Now, if the auto industries pulled together some cash on top of the incentives to get a flight to an automotive city in ABC Town, then the service bec...
Jump to postYou got a valid point. EI sells beyond DUB so that routes like BCN, MAN, MAD all have a decent connection in DUB mixed with local traffic. DL would almost be shooting themselves in the foot because they cant sell beyond DUB at the cost EI can. DL can't sell beyond DUB, but EI can't sell beyond DTW....
Jump to postFirst of all if numbers and rankings didn't matter why publish the numbers at all. They do matter you yourself should know this as the numbers and data person that you are. Good numbers drive growth. When companies see growth it raises eye brows and they want to be part of it so airport ranking doe...
Jump to postSo with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible. That's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. This is like comparing apples t...
Jump to postSo with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible. That's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. This is like comparing apples t...
Jump to postI think MAN would start as a summer seasonal and go from there; I also think it's more of a Delta 757/767 route. DTW would benefit from being a marginally shorter stage length than ORD, and could capture a nice slice of that traffic year round-the other connection point options (JFK, EWR, PHL) are ...
Jump to postSteering this back to DTW-MAN. The article mentioned in passing in the top post of this page suggested around the mid 50s PDEW, Of more recent interest is that at the last World Routes conference, there was a publication by Anna Aero showing the largest number of long-haul searches out of DTW on un...
Jump to postRemember a few years ago there was an article that was written about DL starting 5x weekly MAN flights on a 76W. DL just added HNL 5x weekly on the 76W. Yes but MAN would have been better for Detroit as it would have give us more global exposure and an international flight always generates more rev...
Jump to postIt's logistically impossible in Heathrow, at least until they complete the toast rack in 2396. Likewise for Gatwick.
Maybe Boris Island could've been built with preclearance, maybe.
Yeah, no. This is not going to happen in a million years. None of New York's airports are going to see significant expansion, nor will they be closed. The politics don't lend themselves to either. If you expand or close EWR, New Jersey will scream. If you expand LGA, everyone around it and in its fl...
Jump to post]Not in the case of a LCC load factor paints a pretty good picture how well a flight is doing where as with a legacy where there are so many fares I would agree because you have to have the up front seat filled more so, so you argument for a carrier like NK and WW holds very little water being the ...
Jump to postWho here likes surprises? ;) Is something big about to be announced? DL? NK? EK? Also is DTW that reliable in the winter? Was considering DL IND-DTW-DEN versus WN IND-DEN for January but stopping adds a concern. Yeah, DTW is reliable. Miles above the likes of the Chicago and New York airports. That...
Jump to postWould be nice though if they decide to go this way for them to chose DTW as they have brand recognition here plus the playing field is pretty much open there is only WOW and for them everything is over KEF NK could go nonstop. Given the fleet considerations and apparent lack of interest from NK to ...
Jump to postI'm not sure I necessarily agree, there are actually some pretty cheap fares to Europe on LH via FRA almost price-matching WW. Not to mention, AC DTW-YYZ-Europe flights are also almost competitive with WW prices, not to mention flying out of YQB. Well I disagree too I paid well north of $1000 to fl...
Jump to postBoof02671 wrote:Um no they were all Northwest planes.
Yeah, no. KLM does not need the A380. AMS could sustain it for very few destinations, which would call for a very small fleet of them. Even though some maintenance and handling can be coordinated with AF, maintaining a differently-painted, differently-configured subfleet of KL A380s wouldn't pay off...
Jump to postThe answer is compound: 1) LHR is geographically well-positioned for transatlantic connecting flows, but horrid for connecting Asia to anything 2) BA has a strong, enduring partnership with AA in the US, that helps it reach customers in a way that its Asian partners don't really 3) The Chinese carri...
Jump to postNK also does not own D8 it is a common use gate while D17 is for B6. I can’t wait for the expansion, every gate is full every night. Too bad during the day they can't get more traffic moving through there. I've been there a couple of times during the day and it's virtually empty That would indicate...
Jump to postklm617 wrote:Tennessee
Northwest at Memphis
American at Nashville
I don't have the facts, but I reckon DCA/BWI/IAD could make a showing.
Jump to postThere are a number of one-stop possibilities at Sarajevo, like Lufthansa through Munich or Austrian through Vienna. Seasonally there's Swiss through Zurich or SAS through Copenhagen. If you're willing to make a detour there's even Turkish Airlines though Istanbul. For low-cost there's Norwegian thr...
Jump to postI think STL would do far better if 2hr flight/1000 mile radius is used. Many airports would. Including (gasp) the hub DL hates in DTW. DL hates DTW? Why? They have a world-class airport terminal there...shouldn't they like DTW? It's a running a.net joke, because there are certain members who, with ...
Jump to postHahahaha! More proof that the Italian government doesn't understand the airline industry. Maybe this will happen in 20 years. MAYBE.
Jump to postDull? Just look at that tail fin. Bone up on a little recent history, and that livery is anything but dull. That tail brought hope to the homeless, dreams to the decimated, a place of safety and security to hundreds of thousands of people who lived in nothing but fear all of their lives, in Europe,...
Jump to postIn other news as expected, AF 789 service ended on 6/17 and the aircraft will be used on the CDG-KIX. AF377/378 has returned to 77E service. A 77W actually flew the rotation on 6/22 because it cancelled the previous day. Hopefully the 787 returns as more are delivered! I'd reckon we'll be seeing it...
Jump to postIn other news as expected, AF 789 service ended on 6/17 and the aircraft will be used on the CDG-KIX. AF377/378 has returned to 77E service. A 77W actually flew the rotation on 6/22 because it cancelled the previous day. Hopefully the 787 returns as more are delivered! I'd reckon we'll be seeing it...
Jump to postIf you think Im trying to flame DTW, youve got another thing coming. Facts are what they are. Im not the one trying to dance around facts because they dont tell me what I want. Are you claiming every other ABC-XYZ wish on a.net is facts based? Absolutely not, but the wish based on facts only rule b...
Jump to postORD-AKL is driven by two alliance partners on either end Not trying to stir some crud, but wouldn't you think that this same concept would apply to Skyteam carriers? Delta and Saudia are partners, that wouldn't be a half bad option and could draw connections on both ends. I'm not saying it's a grea...
Jump to postThey didn't cancel it ICN/PVG was reduced in capacity and they started ATL-PVG/ICN. AMS same thing reduced capacity on the daily flights and added capacity at MSP but they are not completely canceled. As of today MSP-AMS 26 weekly flights (including KLM) DTW-AMS 27 weekly flights Yes and before it ...
Jump to postklm617 wrote:lavalampluva wrote:If DL really hated DTW don’t you think they’d relocate their international service to another hub!!?
They are slowly. They have moved AMS capacity to MSP and they have moved PVG and ICN capacity to ATL
What a waste of aircraft utilization; DL's 77Ls should be flying routes such as ATL-HKG, ATL-SIN, ATL-BKK, ATL-KUL, ATL-SYD and ATL-AKL. The 77L was built for long-haul runs such as the ones I described. They operate the largest hub in the world at ATL with endless connections throughout the USA an...
Jump to postAs far as F9 there was no net gain in departures flights were dropped to add the new services. As far as NK goes one route has already been dropped and the other two are only seasonal meaning maybe there was a net gain of one departure a day but not even really sure of that because there is no onli...
Jump to postAir service announcements this year. NK- 2 including 3 new routes. F9- 3 including 3 new routes. Not to mention DY and EI have intended possible DTW announcements. Auguast-November should be prime time for an international carrier. As far as F9 there was no net gain in departures flights were dropp...
Jump to postExcept EK has the largest plane on the route.... And the plane comes from DXB as well so there are probably plenty of DXB-MXP-JFK travelers on board. With multiple daily DXB-NYC nonstops (3 JFK, soon to be 2 JFK 1 EWR), that's kinda hard to believe. I admittedly don't have numbers, but I'd venture ...
Jump to postAgain all I ask was is Detroit waiving two years landing fee like other airports are and the answer is obviously no displayed by all these diversionary posts we now know BOS and ATL do does DTW waive 2 years landing fees for any airline wanting to start serve here it's a simple yes or no question. ...
Jump to postThey are nothing earth shattering that is going to make an airline say hey I want to be in Detroit by the incentive that is offered. The low amount of incentives plus the fact that the WCAA has shown a great inability to market the airport effectively makes the opportunities far and few between. De...
Jump to postAnd that is another a.net myth. That is simply not true and airline like TK can stimulate traffic with their lower fares people who couldn't otherwise afford to fly or that are driving to ORD. Certainly WW, NK and Allegiant have proven that with their rock bottom prices. So it is also a faulty assu...
Jump to postIn this case it does because more options is better for all those who potentially may use the airport plus it generates more fund for improvements. With you way of thinking no airport should seek greater options and usage. Also please explain how your comment pertains to DTW and it's customers beca...
Jump to postWhat do you all think that the WCAA should being doing as far as growth what markets and airlines should they be perusing for growth in this market and what should be their plan of action. Also what current opportunities is the WCAA pursuing for service enhancements at DTW if any. To say that DTW i...
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