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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Looks like the DTW-JFK route is losing its single mainline flight on December 22 and the route goes all RJ for a while. Don't care what the reason it that's downright pathetic for a hub-hub route. There are two damn good reasons: 1) LaGuardia. The portion of the local and NYC POS markets that prefe...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Looks like the DTW-JFK route is losing its single mainline flight on December 22 and the route goes all RJ for a while. Don't care what the reason it that's downright pathetic for a hub-hub route. There are two damn good reasons: 1) LaGuardia. The portion of the local and NYC POS markets that prefe...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

If an airline hates a city because of crime, bad rep, etc., they will refuse to talk to an airport authority or city or whichever entity runs the airport. Not saying EI hates DTW, but it wouldn't dawn on me if an airline did hate DTW, just as they hate ORD or ATL or MSP. That's nonsense. Airlines d...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why B6 doesn’t fly NYC-DCA?
Replies: 33
Views: 5010

Re: Why B6 doesn’t fly NYC-DCA?

I was always under the impression if B6 ever added more DCA routes, EWR would be first just on lack of competition alone What are you talking about? United has flown this route since the merger, and Continental for years before that. UA operated DCA-EWR 7x today. That's the point - only one carrier...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

BOS-MAN (VS) - 46.17% load factor I find this as a complete insult to the Detroit hub. VS/DL operates this flight with a subpar load factor but refuses to move it to a hub with numerous connections that could help this flight get better loads. Delta would NEVER allow a flight like this to exist out...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why B6 doesn’t fly NYC-DCA?
Replies: 33
Views: 5010

Re: Why B6 doesn’t fly NYC-DCA?

I was always under the impression if B6 ever added more DCA routes, EWR would be first just on lack of competition alone Same answer as a bunch of other posts: train. Any city with a direct Amtrak connection downtown from NYC southwards (as Newark does, with easy transfers to PATH if you want to go...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

BOS-MAN (VS) - 46.17% load factor I find this as a complete insult to the Detroit hub. VS/DL operates this flight with a subpar load factor but refuses to move it to a hub with numerous connections that could help this flight get better loads. Delta would NEVER allow a flight like this to exist out...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Military Controlling PAP?
Replies: 4
Views: 1240

Re: US Military Controlling PAP?

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Found a Haitian outlet (in French) saying that this is fake news.
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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air transat with oneworld or skyteam ?
Replies: 11
Views: 2700

Re: Air transat with oneworld or skyteam ?

The alliance system is fading out of relevance with the rise of JVs. TS, therefore, is unlikely to join any alliance. Whether it'll end up in JVs (either DL/AF/KL/VS or AA/BA/IB/AY) is a different question entirely. If I were a betting man, I'd say that it probably won't (not their business model), ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

The WCAA doesn't have the money to fund airlines like that, and nobody in the state of Michigan is going to give the WCAA money for a leisure route. Now, if the auto industries pulled together some cash on top of the incentives to get a flight to an automotive city in ABC Town, then the service bec...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

You got a valid point. EI sells beyond DUB so that routes like BCN, MAN, MAD all have a decent connection in DUB mixed with local traffic. DL would almost be shooting themselves in the foot because they cant sell beyond DUB at the cost EI can. DL can't sell beyond DUB, but EI can't sell beyond DTW....

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

First of all if numbers and rankings didn't matter why publish the numbers at all. They do matter you yourself should know this as the numbers and data person that you are. Good numbers drive growth. When companies see growth it raises eye brows and they want to be part of it so airport ranking doe...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible. That's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. This is like comparing apples t...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible. That's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. This is like comparing apples t...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I think MAN would start as a summer seasonal and go from there; I also think it's more of a Delta 757/767 route. DTW would benefit from being a marginally shorter stage length than ORD, and could capture a nice slice of that traffic year round-the other connection point options (JFK, EWR, PHL) are ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Steering this back to DTW-MAN. The article mentioned in passing in the top post of this page suggested around the mid 50s PDEW, Of more recent interest is that at the last World Routes conference, there was a publication by Anna Aero showing the largest number of long-haul searches out of DTW on un...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Remember a few years ago there was an article that was written about DL starting 5x weekly MAN flights on a 76W. DL just added HNL 5x weekly on the 76W. Yes but MAN would have been better for Detroit as it would have give us more global exposure and an international flight always generates more rev...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: US Pre-clearance in LHR?
Replies: 44
Views: 7468

Re: US Pre-clearance in LHR?

It's logistically impossible in Heathrow, at least until they complete the toast rack in 2396. Likewise for Gatwick.
Maybe Boris Island could've been built with preclearance, maybe.

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rethinking LGA Airport
Replies: 74
Views: 9172

Re: Rethinking LGA Airport

Yeah, no. This is not going to happen in a million years. None of New York's airports are going to see significant expansion, nor will they be closed. The politics don't lend themselves to either. If you expand or close EWR, New Jersey will scream. If you expand LGA, everyone around it and in its fl...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

]Not in the case of a LCC load factor paints a pretty good picture how well a flight is doing where as with a legacy where there are so many fares I would agree because you have to have the up front seat filled more so, so you argument for a carrier like NK and WW holds very little water being the ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Who here likes surprises? ;) Is something big about to be announced? DL? NK? EK? Also is DTW that reliable in the winter? Was considering DL IND-DTW-DEN versus WN IND-DEN for January but stopping adds a concern. Yeah, DTW is reliable. Miles above the likes of the Chicago and New York airports. That...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Would be nice though if they decide to go this way for them to chose DTW as they have brand recognition here plus the playing field is pretty much open there is only WOW and for them everything is over KEF NK could go nonstop. Given the fleet considerations and apparent lack of interest from NK to ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I'm not sure I necessarily agree, there are actually some pretty cheap fares to Europe on LH via FRA almost price-matching WW. Not to mention, AC DTW-YYZ-Europe flights are also almost competitive with WW prices, not to mention flying out of YQB. Well I disagree too I paid well north of $1000 to fl...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta’s 747-400 Fleet
Replies: 14
Views: 2918

Re: Delta’s 747-400 Fleet

Boof02671 wrote:
Um no they were all Northwest planes.

They were Northwest's planes once. Then, in the merger, they became Delta planes.
Northwest has been absorbed by Delta. It is no more. Deal with it.

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: No A380 for KLM?
Replies: 37
Views: 7657

Re: No A380 for KLM?

Yeah, no. KLM does not need the A380. AMS could sustain it for very few destinations, which would call for a very small fleet of them. Even though some maintenance and handling can be coordinated with AF, maintaining a differently-painted, differently-configured subfleet of KL A380s wouldn't pay off...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why BA is expanding more flights/routes to US than Asia?
Replies: 49
Views: 7248

Re: Why BA is expanding more flights/routes to US than Asia?

The answer is compound: 1) LHR is geographically well-positioned for transatlantic connecting flows, but horrid for connecting Asia to anything 2) BA has a strong, enduring partnership with AA in the US, that helps it reach customers in a way that its Asian partners don't really 3) The Chinese carri...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

NK also does not own D8 it is a common use gate while D17 is for B6. I can’t wait for the expansion, every gate is full every night. Too bad during the day they can't get more traffic moving through there. I've been there a couple of times during the day and it's virtually empty That would indicate...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Ohio lost hubs
Replies: 23
Views: 1678

Re: Ohio lost hubs

klm617 wrote:
Tennessee


Northwest at Memphis
American at Nashville

FTFY.
By the time MEM became a Delta hub, AA had long since reduced BNA to a spoke.

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Busiest secondary within metro airports in the U.S
Replies: 19
Views: 1598

Re: Busiest secondary within metro airports in the U.S

I don't have the facts, but I reckon DCA/BWI/IAD could make a showing.

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SJJ KEF or TATL possibility?
Replies: 6
Views: 1170

Re: SJJ KEF or TATL possibility?

There are a number of one-stop possibilities at Sarajevo, like Lufthansa through Munich or Austrian through Vienna. Seasonally there's Swiss through Zurich or SAS through Copenhagen. If you're willing to make a detour there's even Turkish Airlines though Istanbul. For low-cost there's Norwegian thr...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is ATL really within a 2hr flight of 80% of the US population?
Replies: 66
Views: 12286

Re: Is ATL really within a 2hr flight of 80% of the US population?

I think STL would do far better if 2hr flight/1000 mile radius is used. Many airports would. Including (gasp) the hub DL hates in DTW. DL hates DTW? Why? They have a world-class airport terminal there...shouldn't they like DTW? It's a running a.net joke, because there are certain members who, with ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Italian Government lobbying for direct QF PER-FCO
Replies: 35
Views: 5647

Re: Italian Government lobbying for direct QF PER-FCO

Hahahaha! More proof that the Italian government doesn't understand the airline industry. Maybe this will happen in 20 years. MAYBE.

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?
Replies: 36
Views: 12455

Re: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?

Dull? Just look at that tail fin. Bone up on a little recent history, and that livery is anything but dull. That tail brought hope to the homeless, dreams to the decimated, a place of safety and security to hundreds of thousands of people who lived in nothing but fear all of their lives, in Europe,...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

In other news as expected, AF 789 service ended on 6/17 and the aircraft will be used on the CDG-KIX. AF377/378 has returned to 77E service. A 77W actually flew the rotation on 6/22 because it cancelled the previous day. Hopefully the 787 returns as more are delivered! I'd reckon we'll be seeing it...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

In other news as expected, AF 789 service ended on 6/17 and the aircraft will be used on the CDG-KIX. AF377/378 has returned to 77E service. A 77W actually flew the rotation on 6/22 because it cancelled the previous day. Hopefully the 787 returns as more are delivered! I'd reckon we'll be seeing it...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

If you think Im trying to flame DTW, youve got another thing coming. Facts are what they are. Im not the one trying to dance around facts because they dont tell me what I want. Are you claiming every other ABC-XYZ wish on a.net is facts based? Absolutely not, but the wish based on facts only rule b...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

ORD-AKL is driven by two alliance partners on either end Not trying to stir some crud, but wouldn't you think that this same concept would apply to Skyteam carriers? Delta and Saudia are partners, that wouldn't be a half bad option and could draw connections on both ends. I'm not saying it's a grea...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

They didn't cancel it ICN/PVG was reduced in capacity and they started ATL-PVG/ICN. AMS same thing reduced capacity on the daily flights and added capacity at MSP but they are not completely canceled. As of today MSP-AMS 26 weekly flights (including KLM) DTW-AMS 27 weekly flights Yes and before it ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

klm617 wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:
If DL really hated DTW don’t you think they’d relocate their international service to another hub!!?



They are slowly. They have moved AMS capacity to MSP and they have moved PVG and ICN capacity to ATL

Good job reading off of imaginary tea leaves, buddy!

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL launches LAX-Europe on B77L on June 16th
Replies: 62
Views: 14736

Re: DL launches LAX-Europe on B77L today

What a waste of aircraft utilization; DL's 77Ls should be flying routes such as ATL-HKG, ATL-SIN, ATL-BKK, ATL-KUL, ATL-SYD and ATL-AKL. The 77L was built for long-haul runs such as the ones I described. They operate the largest hub in the world at ATL with endless connections throughout the USA an...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

As far as F9 there was no net gain in departures flights were dropped to add the new services. As far as NK goes one route has already been dropped and the other two are only seasonal meaning maybe there was a net gain of one departure a day but not even really sure of that because there is no onli...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Air service announcements this year. NK- 2 including 3 new routes. F9- 3 including 3 new routes. Not to mention DY and EI have intended possible DTW announcements. Auguast-November should be prime time for an international carrier. As far as F9 there was no net gain in departures flights were dropp...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nastiest feud in the airline industry - New York-Milan
Replies: 43
Views: 8751

Re: Nastiest feud in the airline industry - New York-Milan

Except EK has the largest plane on the route.... And the plane comes from DXB as well so there are probably plenty of DXB-MXP-JFK travelers on board. With multiple daily DXB-NYC nonstops (3 JFK, soon to be 2 JFK 1 EWR), that's kinda hard to believe. I admittedly don't have numbers, but I'd venture ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Again all I ask was is Detroit waiving two years landing fee like other airports are and the answer is obviously no displayed by all these diversionary posts we now know BOS and ATL do does DTW waive 2 years landing fees for any airline wanting to start serve here it's a simple yes or no question. ...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

They are nothing earth shattering that is going to make an airline say hey I want to be in Detroit by the incentive that is offered. The low amount of incentives plus the fact that the WCAA has shown a great inability to market the airport effectively makes the opportunities far and few between. De...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

And that is another a.net myth. That is simply not true and airline like TK can stimulate traffic with their lower fares people who couldn't otherwise afford to fly or that are driving to ORD. Certainly WW, NK and Allegiant have proven that with their rock bottom prices. So it is also a faulty assu...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

In this case it does because more options is better for all those who potentially may use the airport plus it generates more fund for improvements. With you way of thinking no airport should seek greater options and usage. Also please explain how your comment pertains to DTW and it's customers beca...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

What do you all think that the WCAA should being doing as far as growth what markets and airlines should they be perusing for growth in this market and what should be their plan of action. Also what current opportunities is the WCAA pursuing for service enhancements at DTW if any. To say that DTW i...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Thu May 31, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

What do you all think that the WCAA should being doing as far as growth what markets and airlines should they be perusing for growth in this market and what should be their plan of action. Also what current opportunities is the WCAA pursuing for service enhancements at DTW if any. To say that DTW i...

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by 2Holer4Longhaul
Tue May 29, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 2342
Views: 150127

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

For what it's worth the DTW-ATW and ATL-ATW capacity are pretty much equal per the current schedule. ... measured how? Let's look at facts shall we? Annualized Directional Capacity to ATW, Year Ending August 2018: ATL: 669 Flights, 63,402 Seats, 48.5M ASMs DTW: 1,078 Flights, 71,912 Seats, 21.4M AS...

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