ORD is not unique regarding shuttling between International and domestic terminals for airplanes. Can’t speak for other airlines, but for United, EWR (Terminal B), LAX (Tom Bradley), and DEN (Concourse A) all use international arrival gates, then towing to a different terminal for departures. Ok an...
Jump to postThere really should be an airside tram that connects all terminals. It needs to go from the east end of T5 to the main checkin hall at T5, that walk is currently around a mile long. Then from T5 it needs to go to T3, T2, T1, Sat1 and Sat 2. The size of the airport and walking distances across even p...
Jump to postAA filling out their schedule with multiple mainline frequencies to domestic destinations they cut over the last few years is what will drive up gate utilization and keep AA from losing gates next year, not BA / OW partners moving to T3. I don't see how those airlines will provide lounge space thoug...
Jump to postExpect some phenomenal news in the next week(s) or so regarding OGT. Biden Admin, the airlines, Mayor's office, and the state have basically hashed out their issues re: funding and the project will basically proceed as originally planned, with minor tweaks to the Gang terminal. Also this. So, sz199...
Jump to postThis merger is one that did nothing good for my home airport ORD, AA effectively broke down the hub and now are slowly rebuilding it. They went from a legacy airline to a hybrid LCC and service and aircraft cabins took a nose dive. Is AA the worst airline? No way, but I think the merger hurt AAs br...
Jump to postHasn't UA indicated they want to expand, and with mainline? They just don't have the gate space.
Jump to postUnderstandable to be worried about quality control issues but Emirates wasn't effected by the MAX issues at all. And have there been any recent 777 issues at EK that we should know about that would cause these comments? Is he just doing the industry a service by speaking up for everyone's safety sak...
Jump to postWhy didn't they just use the same anti ice system from the 8/9 on the 7 and 10? It is the same system on the currently flying -8/-9 . The crews have been instructed not to leave the EAI systems on in clear air, due to risk of compromise of the nacelle. There is no warning or monitor to alert that t...
Jump to postSomeone posted in another chain about the airline hub performance. Things that struck me were: 1) American's intercontinental flights from ORD are a joke. They ones I showed below are ones on the surface more similar to AA at ORD. We know AA isn't close to the mega hubs of AA in DFW, or DL in ATL: ...
Jump to postIn the short term, ORD is still the largest UA hub and Chicago is still the 3rd largest metro area in the US with excellent public transit and a much larger population than DEN. They won't be moving the HQ anytime soon. With several corporate properties in the Chicago area they aren't exactly being ...
Jump to postWas at ORD last night and there appears to be the world's longest jetway installed on the west side of Concourse C. Lots of construction around the C concourse and west of it. Glad to see the new terminals starting to take hold.
Jump to postSouthwest will have new nonstop service MDW-ELP and restart seasonal MDW-BZN. MDW-BUR and SFO return as daily services. Flights start June 4, 2024. I was surprised to see WN dropped MDW-SNA and was only flying MDW-ONT and MDW-LAX. Seems like there should be enough year-round demand for MDW-BUR / LA...
Jump to postContinentalEWR wrote:Pre-pandemic, AA's numbers across its hubs looked like this, by departures:
1. DFW 719
2. CLT 617
3. ORD 437
4. PHL 346
5. MIA 324
6. PHX 252
7. DCA 224
8. LAX 196
9. LGA 143
10. JFK 87
One thing that could happen is if the AA downsize is permanent and not temporary, then they will 100% be forced to give up some gates eventually, which in the reconfiguration with the OGT, could mean UA gains gates at AA's expense, and its not too far fetched with UA operating in T1 and the OGT, T3...
Jump to postOne thing that could happen is if the AA downsize is permanent and not temporary, then they will 100% be forced to give up some gates eventually, which in the reconfiguration with the OGT, could mean UA gains gates at AA's expense, and its not too far fetched with UA operating in T1 and the OGT, T3 ...
Jump to postI'd say ORD is doing pretty well in the global standings despite AA's downsizing of their hub. Imagine if AA contributed to ORD like they used to, maybe ORD gets back to top 3 in the world.
Jump to postThat’s great positivity there Just trying to be realistic, I never read 'new ORD route' and thought permanent expansion. And I'm correct on half of what I said so far. It's seasonal to VCE. Now lets see how long it lasts. My guess it it gets dropped next summer or the following one and doesn't retu...
Jump to postMy money is on where ever AA is adding from ORD, it will be seasonal at best, and dropped within a year or 2. That’s great positivity there Just trying to be realistic, I never read 'new ORD route' and thought permanent expansion. And I'm correct on half of what I said so far. It's seasonal to VCE....
Jump to postMy money is on where ever AA is adding from ORD, it will be seasonal at best, and dropped within a year or 2.
Jump to postI spoke with people at UA a few years back that indicated if the opportunity at ORD arose to take gates from AA, there would be zero hesitation to do so. AA would be smart not to play with fire.
Jump to postRight now AA can continue to let their ORD hub languish they have years before the project is done but as we get closer to the end of this decade AA is going to have to make some decisions. Right now if use it or loose it were in effect AA with their current flight schedule out of ORD would probabl...
Jump to postI've been saying this all along. AA is shrinking in Chicago. Now apparently everyone agrees? They MAY increase ops when the OGT is done, but by then common use gates are in effect and if the city thinks AA is under utilizing their gates and squatting, then those gates will likely go to a competitor ...
Jump to postLots of diversions due to weather the last few weeks at ORD. I know a few people who have been re-routed / diverted. Seems like CVG / IND / DSM have been receiving the in-air diversions.
Jump to postRegarding Delta's pilot cost of 7B over the four years and similar expectations the AA agreement- If this is the case, how can airlines realistically expect to pay for these high cost agreements given the assumption the companies are near their peak operating performance? Certainly AA can continue ...
Jump to postSeems silly and stupid to rush out 5G when there is a risk of it interfering with aircraft. Aviation is a huge safety risk to begin with, and now wireless companies are given the power to push out 'faster' 5g service at the expense of aviation / aviation safety? 4G and LTE don't interfere with airc...
Jump to postSeems silly and stupid to rush out 5G when there is a risk of it interfering with aircraft. Aviation is a huge safety risk to begin with, and now wireless companies are given the power to push out 'faster' 5g service at the expense of aviation / aviation safety? 4G and LTE don't interfere with aircr...
Jump to postAs a comparison here is how AA hubs stack up in average daily departures and seats offered for a typical summer week of July 17. CLT - 607 / 85,660 DCA - 240 / 23,448 DFW - 821 / 116,863 LAX - 123 / 19,028 MIA - 313 / 49,940 ORD - 351 / 38,849 PHL - 259 / 32,433 PHX - 215 / 29,639 PHL was ~375 in t...
Jump to postUgly and too similar to Southwest (WN's livery looks good though). Not a fan. Luckily I don't see or fly Jetblue almost ever so I don't really care either way.
Jump to postAre you seriously still trying to say that AA is going to dehub ORD because a schedule for 4 months out? If the schedule showed 1 73 and 3 E175s would it be ok then? There’s no question that AA has pulled down a lot but there are many reasons to why, DFW and CLT being fortress hubs, lack of aircraf...
Jump to postWow, so AA is going all Eagle on ORD to Texas, aside from DFW, of course. The slow death at ORD continues for AA. AA has reduced ORD-AUS to all Eagle RJs?!?!? I do seem to recall the F-100 operating ORD-IAH in the past (maybe also ORD-SAT, though that could have been on MD-80s), and I believe UA al...
Jump to postService Update - NK to swap in 32Q on ORD-FLL beginning June 7 for 2 daily flights - https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230425-nk32q I wonder if this is because AA drops ORD-FLL for part of the year now. I can't understand AA's logic at all at ORD anymore. NK sees the demand, and they don't even have a...
Jump to postIt seems Southwest has not learned its lesson. We need the government to take action and investigate the mismanagement at Southwest! We don't need the government to do anything. This is a private company with IT issues, they need to figure it out. The governement won't do anything or fix anything. ...
Jump to postHow long before F9 gets a few gates in B? And how long before WN requests CDA extend concourse A and B to the west to add gates? I'd think MDW could lose 31R/13L to extend the terminal, that runway isn't used for anything other than a taxiway.
Jump to postIt’s ridiculous that AMERICAN “can underutilize its gates while T3 is overrun.” You mean Southwest not American No, I meant AMERICAN AIRLINES. They, too are under-utilizing their gates in PHX. I’ve counted roughly 55 gates that AA is using. And a recent press release states AA operates ~240 average...
Jump to postAnd 2022 annual pax #s are out. MDW looks like its back to 91% of its precovid peak, while ORD still has some ground to recoup, coming in at 68.3M last year, or 81% of peak level. Interestingly to me, this would be around 2013/14 levels. https://www.flychicago.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/Business/F...
Jump to postWhy? They are down on slots at SNA and that route is historically low yield. Jets go where the most money is now, and it isn't Hawaii or Mexico out of SNA. I doubt it to be honest, WN is strictly working on higher yield routes from SNA since they have even less to work with there. All of that other...
Jump to postIs Airbus or BA going to do a double-bogey landing gear version of the A32X or B737Max to replace air India's double-bogey A320's used for crappy runways?
Jump to postThe issue here isn't the TSA's ability to implement the mask rule, it's their abuse of it and attempt to enforce it indefinitely without legitimate reason. Sure, they can require it, but the courts can also force them to drop it when they decided they were abusing their power and requiring masks out...
Jump to posthttps://chicagoyimby.com/2022/10/a-look-inside-the-newly-complete-terminal-5-expansion-at-ohare-international-airport.html Looks open and airy. I guess a lot of seating areas and concessions need to be built out but overall looks like a nice improvement. Any idea when it will be open for business? ...
Jump to postOf interest here, from the previously mentioned AA Network thread -see p45, post 2242 and a number of responses after. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468675&start=2200 AA will be running a stronger leaning THU/FRI/SUN schedule for January. AA's ORD operation is looking...
Jump to postWith the new ORD runway configs, when is 27L/9R used for anything? It seems like 9C for departures and 27C for landing depending on traffic flow. One-time last winter I as at ORD flying out and witnessed 27L being used for departures but that's the only time I've seen it used. 9R I have not seen use...
Jump to postI predict that with their new T5 digs and better product, DL starts to attract domestic from AA and UA. I see more routes and frequencies out of ORD in their future. I for one will consider DL for my next flight, unlike in the past. Or I could be wrong. In any case, congrats to DL for making a big ...
Jump to postChicago NW Indiana International Airport sounds good and gets the point across. I agree this airport is under-used and a hidden gem if any airline / airport management can get their stuff together. Removing Gary from the name can only help.
Jump to postElectric airliners are not coming any time soon. Maybe never. But definitely not 'soon'. A major breakthrough in battery tech has to occur for this to happen. No matter how much the climate nutjobs want you to believe the world is ready to move away from fossil fuels, it's not. Climate nut job migh...
Jump to postElectric airliners are not coming any time soon. Maybe never. But definitely not 'soon'. A major breakthrough in battery tech has to occur for this to happen. No matter how much the climate nutjobs want you to believe the world is ready to move away from fossil fuels, it's not. Climate nut job migh...
Jump to postSeems a bit baffling that AA isn’t making room for Alaska in T3, or perhaps even JetBlue, given that AA’s ORD operations remain underutilized. Perhaps AA doesn’t want to free up space for UA? How is it possible for AA to hold onto gates if they're under utilizing them? Based on the new common-use a...
Jump to postElectric airliners are not coming any time soon. Maybe never. But definitely not 'soon'. A major breakthrough in battery tech has to occur for this to happen. No matter how much the climate nutjobs want you to believe the world is ready to move away from fossil fuels, it's not.
Jump to postAs a WN freq. flier, here's what I like about them: -2 free checked bags -2 free carry-on bags -free drink tickets annually for FF's -pick my seat (I always check-in right at 24 hours and always get a A or B boarding group and find a window seat) -flies anywhere I need to go non-stop for the most pa...
Jump to postSouthwest has done this at KALB for years. I de-boarded through the rear jetbridge and walked over the wing, however KALB has actual dual-jetbridge gates where the 2nd, rear bridge lowers over the left wing between the fuselage and winglet like a gate at a rail crossing, they didn't use 2 separate g...
Jump to postWhat's funny is the airlines 'investing' and 'ordering' aircraft from Boom, knowing full well it will always be a paper airplane. What a waste of valuable dollars by AA and UA..
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