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LockheedBBD

Re: Spirit Aero Systems Claims A and B contracts

ReverseFlow wrote:
Oh and apparently they make things for the 747-8, A380, and MRJ.

The MRJ is still in production? That is news to me

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LockheedBBD

Re: Flair Airlines Network Thread - 2022

777luver wrote:
LockheedBBD wrote:
JAGMedia wrote:
I sure wouldn’t have known or heard of Flair if I didn’t work at BUR..

Looks like Flair has been investing in more marketing lately. I've recently seen their ads plastered all over Vancouver transit subway/train stations.

Not very appealing ads IMO

Can't argue there

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LockheedBBD

Re: Flair Airlines Network Thread - 2022

JAGMedia wrote:
I sure wouldn’t have known or heard of Flair if I didn’t work at BUR..

Looks like Flair has been investing in more marketing lately. I've recently seen their ads plastered all over Vancouver transit subway/train stations.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Canadian Transportation Agency amends APPR

Exactly. WS and AC should view this as a positive. It forces the ULCC to come up to the standards we expect from all airlines. The behavior or Swoop , Flair etc. has been unreasonable and needs to improve. This is a first step. Swoop is owned and operated by West Jet. Why should West Jet be concern...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52795113

LockheedBBD

Re: old planes still flying

http://www.FlyTheFord.org

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPMoHHtEmg

LockheedBBD

Re: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer

txkf2010 wrote:
Maybe Lockheed will get back into the commercial arena!

One can dream.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer

The question is, would Embraer be interested in a partnership with COMAC? I'm sure China is salivating at the opportunity as they were with the CSeries (before it was ultimately sold to Airbus).

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LockheedBBD

Re: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer

https://leehamnews.com/2020/04/25/embraer-boeing-wrongfully-terminated-jv-will-seek-remedies/ “Embraer believes strongly that Boeing has wrongfully terminated the MTA, that it has manufactured false claims as a pretext to seek to avoid its commitments to close the transaction and pay Embraer the US$...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Confirmed: Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to Acquire CRJ Program from Bombardier

CFRPwingALbody wrote:
A third option for repurposing the CRJ-FAL is a new Airbus Canada product complementing the Airbus (ATR) product offering.

Where did you get that idea from? Is there a news article or press release that I missed?

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LockheedBBD

Re: Confirmed: Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to Acquire CRJ Program from Bombardier

leghorn wrote:
700million or more off the debt pile and the share price has barely budged. I can't believe the market already priced the deal in to the price.

VV is not going to be happy.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

That's great to hear. Also the A330neo looks so hot in VS colours. Let's hope we see an airline order for the A220 now ;D I'm surprised nobody has mentioned ALC's order for 50 A220-300s: https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2019/06/air-lease-corporation-to-order-100-aircraft-including-...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

That's great to hear. Also the A330neo looks so hot in VS colours. Let's hope we see an airline order for the A220 now ;D I'm surprised nobody has mentioned ALC's order for 50 A220-300s: https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2019/06/air-lease-corporation-to-order-100-aircraft-including-...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Updated: Mitsubishi finalising deal for acquisition of CRJ programme according to FlightGlobal

INFINITI329 wrote:
Embraer should be concerned.. a tie-up between the MRJ and CRJ may produce a way stronger competitor than them separate

Perhaps it's just a bargaining chip to get Boeing to Mitsubishi's table again.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Updated: Mitsubishi finalising deal for acquisition of CRJ programme according to FlightGlobal

Again, I think it is stupid to acquire a program to start a service network. There are many MROs out there. For the timing and the amount of aircraft that are going into service in the next three years, it really is a waste of money to acquire the dying CRJ program. This said, I really wish the dea...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

VV wrote:

Perhaps Mitac should consider another JV with Boeing or simply a build a consortium with Boeing and Embraer and propose a new name for the consortium.

So you're in favor of a monopoly in the below 100 seat market?

That would leave two Boeing JVs as the only viable options for a regional jet.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

A new nickname is on order. From Canadair Jet to CanaJap Jet.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/business/ ... am-318759/

Mitsubishi Heavy told Reuters by email that it was in discussions but that no decision had been made.

LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

VSMUT wrote:

Or buying it for a dollar and receiving a functional frame, so they can throw away the MRJ?

I don't think I would bet my money on that happening.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

CRJ would get Mitsubishi’s foot in the door and buy it time for the MRJ/Spacejet. Remember Mitsubishi is effectively relaunching that jet (or at least the smaller variant) and looking at moving production over to the US. That will likely delay the smaller variant (the CRJ competitor) a few years. W...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

VV wrote:
WTF?

I don't think Mitsubishi is buying the CRJ for the CRJ. Bombardier is probably doing what they did with the Q400. They'll sell Mitsu the CRJ (then Mitsu can wind down the production), and Mitsubishi will get access to the CRJ's support network and use that for the MRJ.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Mitsubishi to buy the CRJ program?

I would have preferred to see a JV between Bombardier and Mitsubishi. Bombardier has the know-how and support network and Mitsubishi has the money.

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LockheedBBD

Re: IAG deciding between A220 and Embraer E2 for BA Cityflyer

I think this is Boeing Brasil Commercial's order to lose.

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LockheedBBD

Re: MRJ is now the Space Jet

aviationaware wrote:
Well they have the Space Wagon so now they have the Space Jet as well. Only logical I guess.

Didn't realize that model existed. IMO, a more fitting name would have been the MRJ Evo (Evolution).

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LockheedBBD

Re: MRJ is now the Space Jet

Maybe the "Space" in Space Jet refers to how spacious the cabin is supposed to be (what marketing wants you to think)?

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LockheedBBD

Re: Embraer CEO Talks About Boeing Partnership, Name Change, Strategies Ahead Of Paris Air Show

Boeing Brasil still has a better sound to it than CSLAP.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations

China's COMAC and AVIC are said to be very interested in the Belfast operation: https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/bombardier-factory-closure-northern-ireland-chinese-avic-comac/amp/ State-run Chinese firms are leading the race to rescue Bombardier’s Northern Ireland business from closure, according to...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations

Reading the detailed press release this decision is more about Bombardier rationalising its operations back to a core. Belfast in particular supplies aerostructures to more than just its parent, so arguably it makes commercial sense to spin it out and use it as a supplier. It could thus also be arg...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Why did VivaAerobus choose Airbus A320 over Boeing 737-800

Volaris320 wrote:

Now imagine if Southwest were to start buying A320neos and A319neos.

Egad, the horror!

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LockheedBBD

Re: Updated: Embraer and Boeing Partnership confirmed

Moving the NSA completely to Embraer would overwhelm them like the CSeries did for Bombardier. I think Embraer can handle it. Bombardier was overwhelmed due to a lack of money and poor management. Two problems that a Boeing owned Embraer will not have. It's not like Embraer has any new projects to ...

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LockheedBBD

Re: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?

Short term, beside technical activities, retire current ceo I'm kind of wondering if their current CEO is responsible for the poor handling of the public outcry. He has been responsible for some of the more obscenely cut throat stuff they've done in recent history, like the cseries thing when Delta...

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LockheedBBD

Re: How does Boeing "survive" this crisis?

There's no alternative to Boeing unless airlines want to wait 5-10 years to receive an A320 if they place an order today. Any costs associated with the 737 MAX will likely be a drop out of Boeing's bucket of cash. Boeing's stock price actually WENT UP after the US announce the fleet grounding this a...

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LockheedBBD

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

The FAA and Boeing defended their position all up until Trump announced it on national television. Then Boeing announced that they were the ones that recommend the grounding of the 737-MAX to the FAA. :rotfl: https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=130404 after consultation with ...

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LockheedBBD

Re: 2019 Post Grounding 737 MAX Storage, Production and Modification

multimark wrote:
Well, we know Lion Air is very likely cancelling their order, that should free up some slots for someone who really wants them!

They've been saying that for a while now. Still waiting for them to actually do something.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Tell that to the Boeing Employees whose livelihood is on the line and the stockholders whose retirement is getting wiped out. I'm sure they think grounding a plane based on nothing more than conjecture is a great thing too right ? Will do! :stirthepot: Ask your fellow employees to fix the aircraft ...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Kinetic wrote:
As far as I'm aware, Boeing could sue worldwide regulators, in case it's proven the two accidents in question aren't to be caused nor prevented by Boeing, btw.

Good luck with that.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

https://globalnews.ca/news/5051366/marc ... -8-safety/

LockheedBBD

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

edu2703 wrote:
Canada's minister of transport Marc Garneau will meet with reporters to discuss the 737 Max "safety and security" tomorrow 11:00 a.m. EDT

Canada has already stated this evening that they have no plans on grounding the 737 MAX. It's likely just a Q&A session for the press.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Source: https://www.apnews.com/0cd5389261f34b01a7cbdb1a12421e27 "Pilots have reported issues in US with new Boeing jet" The pilots said that soon after engaging the autopilot on Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, the nose tilted down sharply. In both cases, they recovered quickly after disconnectin...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Source: https://www.apnews.com/0cd5389261f34b01a7cbdb1a12421e27 "Pilots have reported issues in US with new Boeing jet" The pilots said that soon after engaging the autopilot on Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, the nose tilted down sharply. In both cases, they recovered quickly after disconnecting...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Boeing Lineup Circa 2025 - Where do they go Next

747 line winds up in time for space to be used for NMA production. NSA could start on NMA or new greenfield site in South Carolina. Existing 737 plant transitions to NSA once South Carolina up to speed, so you have two plants producing NSA. I'm guessing there will probably be a FAL for the NSA or N...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Bombardier sues Mitsubishi in Seattle over aircraft trade secrets

Update: Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bombardier-lawsuit-mitsubishi/mitsubishi-accuses-bombardier-of-trying-to-limit-competition-for-regional-jets-idUSKCN1PN02U Mitsubishi Aircraft accuses Bombardier of trying to limit competition for regional jets Mitsubishi said in a counter-filing cl...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Airbus A220 Developments : more of a match for A320neo than Airbus says

Wasn't Boeing approached at one point? I am not sure about it but I have a very vague memory having read they were approached, but declined or the discussion was not fruitful. That is correct. It was in a Seattle Times article, Boeing was more interested in Embraer (as they have been for many years...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Boeing and Embraer approve terms of $4.2bn joint venture

RIP Embraer as we know it....
Welcome, Emboeing.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Bombardier sues Mitsubishi in Seattle over aircraft trade secrets

ewt340 wrote:
They are only surviving because of Boeing.

Manufacturing parts? Mitsubishi really should have formed a partnership with another company years ago, but hindsight is 20/20.

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LockheedBBD

Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Maybe of topic, but on the airbus website I saw this "the A220-100 and A220-300 are the largest aircraft able to operate in the constrained environment of London City Airport. " Does that mean the 300 can take off from London city? I thought only the 100 could. maybe at a reduced max take...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Bombardier sues Mitsubishi in Seattle over aircraft trade secrets

This is an interesting story. Indeed there are a lot of former Bombardier employees in Seattle area and in Nagoya. Is there any possibility Mitsubishi Aircraft Corporation would join the partnership reportedly being formed by Embraer and Boeing? It is probably very difficult to be a stand-alone reg...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Made in America Boeing KC390 for USAF ?

Why stop with the USAF? They should ship American made Boeing [formerly Embraer] KC-390s all around the world. Boeing will probably gobble up Embraer's military division any day now. After the joint venture announcement, Boeing said they are looking into doing another separate deal for Embraer's mil...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Britiah Airways - Big Aircraft Order soon

So neither Airbus nor RR engine order from the UK's biggest airline? They build the buswings too. Yet UA/AA/DL/AS all operate Airbus fleets with Boeing building planes in their home countries... I remember the old American saying, "if it ain't Boeing I ain't going". I believe the old Brit...

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LockheedBBD

Re: Air Transat Livery

Why is the A321 livery the only one that has a mask?

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