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by TurboJet707
Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Goodbye BAC 1-11!
Replies: 85
Views: 10444

Re: Goodbye BAC 1-11!

off-centre landing gear. I was under the impression that the BAC 1-11 landing gear was "normal", while the Trident had an off-centre nose gear. Looks like I've learned something new. Hmm, looks like you're right. I know the Trident had this arrangement but in my memory the 1-11 had it as ...

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by TurboJet707
Wed May 08, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Goodbye BAC 1-11!
Replies: 85
Views: 10444

Re: Goodbye BAC 1-11!

Although I wasn't aware that a 1-11 was still flying, it is still sad news to me. A friendly, somewhat quirky aeroplane, with its high 'forehead', short tail fin and off-centre landing gear. I grew up 20 kilometres from AMS, close to the sea, and as a kid and teenager I have seen and heard many, man...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM CEO: We will take delivery of A350
Replies: 62
Views: 19226

Re: KLM CEO: We will take delivery of A350

According to this site, AF are going to receive KLM's A350's. https://www.airway1.com/boeing-787-in-klm-and-a350-exclusive-to-air-france/ Thanks. While it is an interesting read, the article, and the French article it links to, is only based on rumours. The claim that KL will not get any A350s is n...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran Air Fokker 100 belly lands in Tehran
Replies: 26
Views: 6107

Re: Iran Air Fokker 100 belly lands in Tehran

Iran CAO put out an accident notice out the next day, 20 March 2019, in Persian (I am fully fluent in Persian). I am sure the final report will be in English since foreign investigation agencies are to join. (...) Many thanks for translating A300! Not just IR...it's pretty well known issue of the F...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

I knew it wasn't real but it looks very convincing. A good photoshop job.

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by TurboJet707
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

I just hope that they add the small back dot on the nose cone which is sadly missing on the BOAC retro 747. All the aircraft during the Negus period had the black dot on the nose cone which I personally liked and I do hope that we see it on G-CIVB. Yes, I like those black dots too, and not only on ...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: From 737 'Jurassic' to 737 'Classic' before MCAS
Replies: 22
Views: 2875

Re: From 737 'Jurassic' to 737 'Classic' before MCAS

Thanks all for your responses! The problem itself did not exist because it had been avoided in an old school way: mechanically. Undesired shiftings of the center of gravity to a critical point had often been avoided by adding a certain number of frames forward the wing and another certeain number af...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: From 737 'Jurassic' to 737 'Classic' before MCAS
Replies: 22
Views: 2875

From 737 'Jurassic' to 737 'Classic' before MCAS

Dear forum members, I don't want to start yet another B737MAX thread, but the recent terrible accidents in which the type was involved and the subsequent turmoil made me think about the transitions from earlier generations of the Boeing 737 to successive versions. In the threads about the accidents ...

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by TurboJet707
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704378

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

They grounded the 737 MAX because if we use the 777 as an industry example, it was 18 years before 'the Koreans' managed to kill someone in one. The MH events do not count either. The MAX has already killed 357 in under two years, and within 5 months of each other during the climb. None of the fata...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'She flies! Concorde flies at last!' - First flight of Concorde 50 years ago today!
Replies: 26
Views: 5004

Re: 'She flies! Concorde flies at last!' - First flight of Concorde 50 years ago today!

(...)the nose is not the same in all the pictures (...) That's correct. For instance, during the interview that I referred to in my post above, ARB test pilot D.P. Davies tells at one point that the first prototype(s) had a full metal visor (the device that slides up to cover the 'actual' cockpit w...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'She flies! Concorde flies at last!' - First flight of Concorde 50 years ago today!
Replies: 26
Views: 5004

Re: 'She flies! Concorde flies at last!' - First flight of Concorde 50 years ago today!

(...) Also this post makes me miss historic forum user Madame Concorde! Maybe other folks remember her on here as well. Yes, I do remember her. It must be at least 5 years ago that we saw a contribution of hers here on the forum. Sometimes it takes a while to realise that you haven't seen somebody ...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian pilot writes "I'm bored" in flight path
Replies: 10
Views: 3711

Re: Australian pilot writes "I'm bored" in flight path

anshabhi wrote:
This aircraft has better handwriting then me


:rotfl:

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by TurboJet707
Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The fashionable '8' in aircraft designations
Replies: 36
Views: 5315

Re: The fashionable '8' in aircraft designations

Yes, I agree with you. I always thought it was silly to pay attention to 'lucky numbers' in an industry where nobody cares about things like that. I just thought it was good fun to show with some historic examples that 'lucky numbers' don't sell planes... And that the manufacturers might as well go ...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The fashionable '8' in aircraft designations
Replies: 36
Views: 5315

The fashionable '8' in aircraft designations

The agony of the A380 project made me think about the fashion of using the number '8' in aircraft names. I believe the idea behind this fashion was that '8' counts as a lucky number in some Asian cultures and it was thought that an '8' in the type number could increase the aircraft type's appeal to ...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now
Replies: 94
Views: 22631

Re: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now

pabloeing wrote:
Can you already guess what she will look like


Well, eh, white? :duck:

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by TurboJet707
Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

A 787 painted on the BOAC Comet style livery. The 787's round nose would look smashing and reminiscent of the Comet's own round nose. This is about as close as you'll get to that: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6379/ypuH0X.png That is absolutely stunning! :o :airplane: The 787 is one of the...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

G-BYGC is scheduled to depart DUB around 08:30 today and is expected to arrive at LHR 10:00 GMT. Really looking forward to the first pictures :hyper:

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by TurboJet707
Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is the 'bubble' on BOAC's 747-100s?
Replies: 10
Views: 7546

Re: What is the 'bubble' on BOAC's 747-100s?

Here is a picture of three of the very earliest 747s, being prepared for testing in September 1969. On the first one, the 'bubble' is not yet installed, but it seems there is an opening in the fuselage in the place where it is going to be. It looks like the satcom equipment is about to be built in a...

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by TurboJet707
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is the 'bubble' on BOAC's 747-100s?
Replies: 10
Views: 7546

Re: What is the 'bubble' on BOAC's 747-100s?

Some of KLM's 747- 2 06s had this too: 0490489 BTW, this is the ill-fated PH-BUF that was involved in the Tenerife disaster. It was part of KL's first batch of 747 with PW engines. I vaguely remember that this 'bubble' housed some kind of additional antenna but I don't rember what its function was. ...

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by TurboJet707
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unidentified A340-600 over Europe
Replies: 22
Views: 10315

Re: Unidentified A340-600 over Europe

It's at FL410 as we speak :o

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by TurboJet707
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

There is a '1919-2019' script on the aft fuselage

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by TurboJet707
Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

https://t.co/vV8dcJsNrp
(https://twitter.com/British_Airways/sta ... 72288?s=09)

This one is being painted in the 60s/70s BOAC colours. The tail fin already looks very good! Can't wait to see the entire aeroplane tomorrow!
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Another sneak preview of the first 744 to be repainted:

https://t.co/vV8dcJsNrp
(https://twitter.com/British_Airways/sta ... 72288?s=09)

This one is being painted in the 60s/70s BOAC colours. The tail fin already looks very good! Can't wait to see the entire aeroplane tomorrow!

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by TurboJet707
Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM 747-400 PH-BFV hits KLM 787-9 PH-BHA at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport
Replies: 41
Views: 12088

Re: KLM 747-400 PH-BFV hits KLM 787-9 PH-BHA at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport

Ouch, that's an expensive mistake! Interesting to see pictures taken from both planes at around the same time. I think the 744 will be fixed quicker than the 789. If necessary, a 744 can be operated with just one winglet, it has been done before. How long would the replacement of a 787 stabilizer ta...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM Wants to Change KL CEO
Replies: 134
Views: 17399

Re: Air France-KLM Wants to Change KL CEO

(...)But at least the cabin crew do completely ignore you if your do not happen to speak the local language (...) I trust you meant to write " don't completely ignore you" It would be weird if KLM staff would ignore anyone who doesn't speak Dutch, as they would need to ignore 99,99% of th...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Thanks for clarifyin JannEejit and SheikhDjibouti!
At the time I thought the "British" script was a bit weird but indeed, it has got a following.

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by TurboJet707
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 661
Views: 131759

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

I am curious whether the 747 that will have the Negus livery will get "British airways" or just "British" titles. Since the 70s I have been puzzled by those 'British' titles. Does anyone know what the idea behind this was? Was this a later version of the Negus livery? At the time...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why didn't NW order the 747-300?
Replies: 53
Views: 6263

Re: Why didn't NW order the 747-300?

The majority of their classic 747s were the SUD variety (...) That's right. Interestingly, KLM had only their GE powered 742's (PH-BUH > PH-BUT) converted to 747-206 SUD. The earlier P&W engined -206's (PH-BUA > PH-BUG) kept their short hump. The SUD's were often referred to as -300, and techni...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Dolomiti revised livery
Replies: 27
Views: 4122

Re: Air Dolomiti revised livery

CarbonFibre wrote:
Helvetic have already claimed that.


You're right, I didn't realise that!



In that case, Swiss/LH would indeed need to figure out something else for the tail.
Perhaps they'll just drop the wrap-around-the-tail part and copy LH for the rest.

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Dolomiti revised livery
Replies: 27
Views: 4122

Re: Air Dolomiti revised livery

What will be really interesting is how Swiss' livery gets revised. That has always been Eurowhite with just red. But they're also (after LH proper) the most premium brand in the LH group as they still have first class on all of their long-haul planes. I'm afraid that will be easy to predict: the ta...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Dolomiti revised livery
Replies: 27
Views: 4122

Re: Air Dolomiti revised livery

That's what you get when a bunch of Germans start tampering with Italian flair and charm... " Vee must take down all ze zweeping linez Kurt! Ze group colorz must be stantartizet!" :rotfl: :D I'm not sure whether this can be called a 'livery' at all. It seems the era of distinguishable air...

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by TurboJet707
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: An unfair comparison II - DC-7 vs. CV-880 vs. A220-100
Replies: 24
Views: 4011

Re: An unfair comparison II - DC-7 vs. CV-880 vs. A220-100

Thanks, that's a very interesting exercise. Some people may question the use of it, but I think it's a good and funny way to put things into perspective. That CV880 fuel burn is really frightening :shock: I wonder how this would compare in absolute terms with a modern large widebody like, let's say,...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AMS reach max. flights, 3rd A380 gate opens end of january
Replies: 60
Views: 8740

Re: AMS reach max. flights, 3rd A380 gate opens end of january

Airport expansion is always an option, either at hubs like AMS/BRU/DUS or perhaps give opportunity to smaller ones like EIN. Well, probably not in this case. Netherlands is a very densely populated country (17,3 million inhabitants) and there's currently a big discussion going on about CO2 reductio...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Every Lufthansa 747-400 livery
Replies: 13
Views: 3410

Re: Every Lufthansa 747-400 livery

Interesting topic. I'm actually a bit surprised to see that no LH 744 has ever flown in the older livery with the cheatline, the black nose cone and the larger 'Spiegelei' on the tail, like on this 747-230B: 1646155 I didn't realise that the now outgoing livery was introduced that long ago. Anyway, ...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

Thanks SEPilot. It is indeed not true that all 803 KC-135s had been ordered before the 707 first flew, but in 1955, the USAF had already ordered 279 tankers from Boeing. At that time, only the 367-80 had flown (July 1954); the first 'proper' 707 didn't make its first flight before December 1957, eig...

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by TurboJet707
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

I think Lockheed’s issue with this generation of jets stems from the tanker project. They actually WON the competition and the 717/KC-135 was only adopted as the interim tanker till the Lockheed model was ready. With hindsight, this must indeed have been one of the most decisive moments in aviation...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

Although the air intakes sat on top all four of the nacelles of the non-fan -120s and -320s as well as the -420s, there were still only three turbo compressors, nothing on engine 1. As you note, American had only two turbo compressors on (most of) its -123Bs and -323B/Cs. Most airlines stuck with t...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

Re: 707 and stability: Previous a.net discussions pointed me to a great interview series: The D. P. Davies Interview on testing the Comets, Boeing 707, Britannia & Brabazon. “The test pilots’ test pilot”, former CAA Chief Test Pilot D. P. Davies talks frankly about the civil aircraft that he pu...

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by TurboJet707
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

I have never seen a passenger 707 with less than three (...) Also this one -- think it's actually a 720B with an HF antenna? https://www.flickr.com/photos/xsacman/6781444504/in/album-72157630441866582/ The caption on the 2nd photo is correct: 707-123B. American's 720Bs did not have HF antennas. Thi...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

I like to bring up this photo when a 707(720) is compared to a 737NG. Fuselage length may be similar, but a 707-100 is like a 737-800 with 767 wings! That's a nice way to put it, and the picture clearly shows the difference. By comparison, the 707's wings are indeed massive. Yet, neither the 737 no...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?
Replies: 111
Views: 18576

Re: Why did American Airlines go with 707 over DC-8?

I have a fascinating old Dutch book about jet airliners that was published in 1961. The author quotes the AA chairman who says that AA take a long, hard look at both the 707 and the DC8, but that the earlier availability of the 707 was indeed decisive, after Boeing decided to widen the original cabi...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Elderly couple kicked off of KLM AMS-MAD flight
Replies: 81
Views: 11612

Re: Elderly couple kicked off of KLM AMS-MAD flight

76er wrote:
I'd call BS on that.


:checkmark: :checkmark:

There must have been more to it than just not being able to understand each other. That in itself can never a reason to send pax off a plane. I have a feeling that the complaining passenger 'conveniently forgot' to tell the whole story.

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by TurboJet707
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: "Vanity Plates" for Aircraft?
Replies: 57
Views: 5459

Re: "Vanity Plates" for Aircraft?

An early example was the corporate jet that the Dutch Philips company acquired in 1967: it was given the registration PH-LPS.



The first DC8 that was delivered to KLM got PH-DCA for DC Acht (=Eight). That was in 1959.

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by TurboJet707
Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?
Replies: 36
Views: 12565

Re: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?

That is simply great! Ok, I think the later two-tone blue cheatline livery would have looked even better but this is still wonderful! To me, the best looking 787 out there. I love the bold BOEING 787 DREAMLINER script on the front and the classic black dot on the radome too, which makes the nose loo...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hi Fly unveil A380 Coral Reef livery
Replies: 56
Views: 13951

Re: Hi Fly unveil A380 Coral Reef livery

It looks like the starboard side is painted in a different colour: https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/15953_1531985371.jpg https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/6/71550_1531985704.jpg Personally, I think it's far from ugly, especially the darker blue on the starboard side, and it's good to see a new livery o...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?
Replies: 36
Views: 12565

Re: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?

Or perhaps this livery?

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?
Replies: 36
Views: 12565

Re: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?

Ah, thanks Polot. So the best is yet to come!
I guess it will be painted in these colours?

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?
Replies: 36
Views: 12565

Re: Any pics of El Al retro 70th Anniversary 787-9?

Any chance that the two-tone blue cheatline will be applied as well? That would be lovely.
It would be a bit disappointing if the plane were to remain all-white except for this nice classic blue tail.

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