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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

Just a question about an ETOPS 180 A220-300; what is the weight of the additional equipment (life rafts, additional emergency oxygen, additional fire suppression canisters etc) that is required? I guess we could use an AC ETOPS A319 for comparison - info that was "floating" (pun intended) ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

Thanks Lightsaber for bringing this extremely relevant/interesting article. FWIW, yesterday I also brought to vv the part where Rob Dewar says "customer demand prompted the improvements that resulted in a range increase of some 450 nm..." (But I suspect VV did not see it...). Regards https...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 349
Views: 62462

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

It was mentioned in another thread that they ran out of money and didn't get the production tooling they intended to get, in which case Airbus could easily fix that with incremental investment. But they have the money to certify the high gross weight version for 2020? WTF? There is something fishy ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada in exclusive talks to buy Air Transat
Replies: 256
Views: 37092

Re: Air Canada in exclusive talks to buy Air Transat

FWIW, Mach Inc would bring some economy of scale & additional expertise in constructing / managing properties.
As we all know, the hotel / accomodation side of Transat AT is larger than the airline side.

They only need to bring in an airline partner to achieve an even better mix.

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri May 31, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

Indeed, “Bombardier will fund the cash shortfalls of CSALP, if required, during the second half of 2018, up to a maximum of $225 million US; during 2019, up to a maximum of $350 million US; and up to a maximum aggregate amount of $350 million US over the following two years" is totally correct....

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri May 31, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier CRJ, upgrade or sunset product line? Re-engine after all?
Replies: 54
Views: 10508

Re: Bombardier CRJ, upgrade or sunset product line? Re-engine after all?

Current CRJ900s are pretty much all flying, and are most probably worth more as is than modified ($$) to a shrink CRJ750. There would be more potential for new built instead.

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri May 31, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

This "paper" MTOW increase must have cost many millions just in "validation" flight hours (maintenance, crew) plus the costs of updating the software and paperwork. I'm sure Airbus figured the selling price of that "new version" to cover the costs. (And possibly bring a...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed May 29, 2019 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

As mentionned by Lightsaber; "if a smaller aircraft has the same or better per seat costs, it invariably outsells the larger"... That's why I find the idea of the 195E2 having better CASM (versus the CS300) very intriguing to say the least. Maybe there are other factors (on why despite wor...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue May 28, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

It is not obvious at all the E195-E2 has worse seat mile cost than CS300. My estimates put the two in the same ball park with a 85% probability 195-E2 to have better seat mile cost. My model is not accurate enough to say with 100% certainty which one has better seat mile cost. It is very highly lik...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue May 28, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

The E2-190 weighs 35 tons. Thus the lower capacity E2-195 almost certainly weighs more than the A220-300 Please provide a link. As I noted, I estimated. I prefer to refine estimates With all due respect, your statement re the weight of the E2-190 was not an estimation. Call if what you want but it ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue May 28, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

At full passenger/luggage load, André Allard mentioned the A220 was fuel volume restricted. Some existing wing fuel tanks/cells could not be filled to capacity. So this MTOW increase now allows full load + full tanks, resulting in this range increase - or increase load at full fuel, whatever the mix...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sun May 26, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

KlimaBXsst wrote:
The A220 is starting to remind me of the A318...

Well, even from the start the A318 had terrible CASM, which was/is definitely not the case with the BCS3...

But I agree, apparently plenty of grow margin - particularly a BCS5 with the same wing...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sun May 26, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase
Replies: 241
Views: 35938

Re: A220 gets 2.3T MTOW increase

Does anyone know what the exact reason of this MTOW increase? It is quite confusing to see such an effort is done on the A220 when the nearest competitor E195-E2 has only about 2,400 nm of range. I see your point here. Such an apparent range overkill is indeed intriging. (Unless it helps acheiving ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri May 24, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Embraer and Boeing JV to be named Boeing Brasil Commercial
Replies: 774
Views: 95036

Re: Boeing Brasil – Commercial is the new name of Embraer

The BCS program was circling the drain in spite of whatever Boeing was doing. Sure, Boeing tried to put their boot on BBD's neck, but that backfired didn't it?... I totally agree that BBD did not have the massive financial capacity required to undertake such a project. It also spent (wasted) too mu...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri May 24, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Embraer and Boeing JV to be named Boeing Brasil Commercial
Replies: 774
Views: 95036

Re: Boeing Brasil – Commercial is the new name of Embraer

The fact that this is legal shows what a "free" economy really is. Boeing is probably the most predatory company in the Business. Frankly at this point no matter how much I love their heritage or aircraft I want them to fail as a corporation. Ok and Airbuses take over of the CS program wa...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu May 16, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada in exclusive talks to buy Air Transat
Replies: 256
Views: 37092

Re: Air Canada in exclusive talks to buy Air Transat

I remember how messy was the pilot seniority list integration when AC bought Canadian. Particularly since Canadian's pilots tended to have considerable seniority (Canadian airlines having suffered slow/negative growth in its last few years) Would that be legally possible to keep Transat AT as an ind...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon May 13, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Canada - Future Fighter Capability Project
Replies: 101
Views: 21615

Re: Canada - Future Fighter Capability Project

A bit of a monkey wrench in the works; American officials will need to sign off and certify the fighter jet Canada buys to ensure the fighter jet meets American intelligence sharing requirements: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-new-canadian-fighter-jets-will-need-us-certification-dnd...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon May 13, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WestJet acquired by Onex in $5-billion deal
Replies: 103
Views: 19591

Re: WestJet acquired by Onex in $5-billion deal

AA was doing exactly that with Canadian Airlines (huge fees to use Sabre etc) - despite owning only 25%.

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon May 13, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WestJet acquired by Onex in $5-billion deal
Replies: 103
Views: 19591

Re: WestJet acquired by Onex in $5-billion deal

Maybe they will also buy Air Transat and merge the two haha Indeed. Onex has enough capital to also buy Transat AT. Despite flying different equipment (and having totally different culture...) we can see the complementary reach of each airline: WestJet being strong in the west, average in TO and ex...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon May 13, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company
Replies: 64
Views: 12470

Re: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company

In view of recent PRIVATE EQUITY involvements with WestJet... I think one has to keep watch if this was a first strike in preparation for other dominoes. Indeed. Onex has enough capital to also buy Transat AT. Despite flying different equipment (and having totally different culture...) we can see t...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu May 09, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is Air Transat a scheduled or charter airline? Or both? Could or would they ever merge with WestJet?
Replies: 15
Views: 2983

Re: Is Air Transat a scheduled or charter airline? Or both? Could or would they ever merge with WestJet?

I said this in the 'Transat is for sale' thread, but culturally WestJet and Transat are on completely different planets. WestJet after almost 20 years of serving Eastern Canada, either a) still can't figure out how to be much of a presence in any market with a significant Francophone population or ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed May 08, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mitsubishi finalising deal for acquisition of CRJ programme according to FlightGlobal
Replies: 220
Views: 18665

Re: BBD CEO: "We are divesting out of commercial, focus on business aircraft moving forward"

The truth? Some people will support any anglophone business and want every francophone business to go down the drain. Everybody knows that this is the case. I'm impressed that while US based, you still have figured out that continual nasty game from Toronto's centric Canadian medias against Québec ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon May 06, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mitsubishi finalising deal for acquisition of CRJ programme according to FlightGlobal
Replies: 220
Views: 18665

Re: BBD CEO: "We are divesting out of commercial, focus on business aircraft moving forward"

Meanwhile, Airbus wonders who will be willing to invest in not just buying the A220 wing factory, but willing and able to invest in the A220 ramp up at the wing factory... I would pretend that selling this factory is a very sound business decision from a strict volume/economy of scale point of view...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sun May 05, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mitsubishi finalising deal for acquisition of CRJ programme according to FlightGlobal
Replies: 220
Views: 18665

Re: BBD CEO: "We are divesting out of commercial, focus on business aircraft moving forward"

I'd say the downfall of BBD would make a good book, but let's face it, the Canadian government will keep bailing them out whenever they get into trouble (which is probably why they get into so much in the first place). No they won't. The current Trudeau government if re-elected (that is a big if) d...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu May 02, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations
Replies: 29
Views: 5933

Re: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations

Do we see another Bombardier-Airbus deal in our future??? I see this divesture as positive for Belfast, but not necessarily via an Airbus ownership. A "non-OEM" new owner would be more likely to attract additional external contracts. By example, there are no ways Boeing would ever conside...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu May 02, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations
Replies: 29
Views: 5933

Re: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations

The aim I guess would be to fully utilise the installations and the talent pool. (For better economy of scale) If still owned by another OEM (like Airbus), other OEMs would still be not very inclined providing business to a competitor. Unless Airbus eventually wants to rewing a future A321NEO++ and ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu May 02, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations
Replies: 29
Views: 5933

Re: Bombardier to sell Belfast operations

Do we see another Bombardier-Airbus deal in our future??? I see this divesture as positive for Belfast, but not necessarily via an Airbus ownership. A "non-OEM" new owner would be more likely to attract additional external contracts. By example, there are no ways Boeing would ever conside...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed May 01, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company
Replies: 64
Views: 12470

Re: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company

Maybe a spin off of Air Canada Vacation and then a merger with AT? A321NEOs and A330s would be a great fit here - particularly when considering the use of Rouge's older 767 eqpt.

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed May 01, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company
Replies: 64
Views: 12470

Re: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company

I definitely don't see any possible federal investment here for the obvious reasons you stated. And that's why nobody brings this possibility. But if Investisment Québec or most probably CDPQ can "profitably" help in a win - win transaction, I'm all for it. Believe me, Québec is really luc...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed May 01, 2019 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company
Replies: 64
Views: 12470

Re: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company

To yulexpansion: I personnaly have no problems in having (by example) the Caisse de Dépôt et de Placement du Québec (CDPQ) investing further (they already own some) in Air Transat. They are clever investors and if with the same token they can help keep some activities locally, that's fine with me. S...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed May 01, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company
Replies: 64
Views: 12470

Re: Media: Air Transat in Talks of Selling the Company

Don't think it's fair for the Quebec government to be subsidizing a Quebec based company for a bid. Especially considering the Prime Minister's ties to Transat. What subsidies are you referring to? Transat is a public company and I'm sceptical that any government funding has been disclosed. Link in...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A319NEO PW First Flight
Replies: 30
Views: 5515

Re: A319NEO PW First Flight

IMHO, SWA will not receive any "new" aircraft below the 737 Max 8's size anytime soon, if ever. Their current 737-7s have many more years to go. Then they'll figure out if it's better to just drop "some" thinner routes/timings rather than replacing those 737-7s with a similar siz...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 255
Views: 66893

Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Rail could be the cheapest / most reliable year long.

By the way, Canadian National Rail (CNR) main US route happens to go all the way up to Mobile. So one single Rail Carrier from Montréal up to Mobile.

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Insults between controller and pilot after near miss
Replies: 83
Views: 20218

Re: Insults between controller and pilot after near miss

My club's policy was and still is to immediately request for them to repeat their call in English, and guess what, 95% of the time, they would never reply. And you knew they heard you, because most of the time they would make another position report (in French, no less) 15 minutes later. I speak Fr...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Insults between controller and pilot after near miss
Replies: 83
Views: 20218

Re: Insults between controller and pilot after near miss

To "triple3driver" Those stories amaze me. I fly about every 2nd weekend and never heard / withnessed such stories. I'm based in Beloeil and fly along the St-Laurence River to Québec City, Trois Rivières, or to Val d'Or, Sherbrooke, Gatineau etc. (Also once a year I bring a friend's plane ...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier continues to disappoint
Replies: 30
Views: 10465

Re: Bombardier continues to disappoint

Strategic level 1. Lear85 - siphoned resources (cash and engineering) away from CSeries at a crucial stage. 2. Fuel prices - outside BBDs control, but the crash in 2008 and subsequent collapse in oil prices didn't help sell an aircraft that was designed for an envisaged $200+/barrel prices. 3. Glob...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN looking at A220
Replies: 280
Views: 44011

Re: WN looking at A220

Cue pilots wanting a raise because they'll have to train on a new aircraft type. The new wage would be lower, not higher . The A220 is a smaller aircraft. Pilots are aware/accept this. Most probably. But that's where I see a problem. As soon as an A220 pilot upgrades to a 737 (for a better pay), he...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Insults between controller and pilot after near miss
Replies: 83
Views: 20218

Re: Insults between controller and pilot after near miss

I've had times when flying GA in Quebec and was told a few times to speak French... I'm very surprised to hear that. It's more like the other way around. The minute we hear english comms (GA or not) in proximity, everyone switches to english. It would be very stupid to demand french comms to non-fr...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Announce Order for 6 Q400s
Replies: 17
Views: 5347

Re: Bombardier Announce Order for 6 Q400s

My 2 cents about the future of the Q-400 production is that Viking will expect some government support to move to another facility in the GTA. If not who knows what will happen. The BBD streetcar and subway plants in Ontario (Thunder bay/Kingston) will likely close soon as well due to the contracte...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Announce Order for 6 Q400s
Replies: 17
Views: 5347

Re: Bombardier Announce Order for 6 Q400s

Toronto's manufacturing labor costs are not cheap. And Downsview's unions are pretty demanding too (which is logical I guess, with the steep costs of living in TO). Combined with the competing ATR 72 which sells for much less, there was no ways in making a profit with the Q400. So the only way out f...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16696

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

CFRP barrels of different shape or diameter now only require a different mandrel, the bots can deal with a wide range of sizes. A design freedom with cool possibilities. I'm not arguing about CRFP design freedom & flexibility, but CRFP are not yet optimal for barrels in Narrow Bodies. Aluminium...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16696

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

Can you imagine the math that goes through the head of a senior Boeing exec when considering that ( me : for an 8% more efficient 737?) $10B project that will almost certainly be >$20B by the time it is done ? Off topic a little: Wow, in comparison the $6.5B CSeries program could then be considered...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics
Replies: 54
Views: 7708

Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

No AC to NRT, SJU or UVF last year. No Norwegian to FDF/ PTP last year. No TS to SJU or SXM in 2018 either. Good point, thanks for pointing that out, I completely forgot so many routes were launched/resumed compared to last year. Just the NRT service means roughtly 21,000+ more seats over the two m...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WTO rules against Boeing and US.
Replies: 22
Views: 5743

Re: WTO rules against Boeing and US.

But I think Boeing's conduct with respect to the C-Series/A220 means they deserve to face some pretty nasty consequences. Hypocrites might be the proper wording maybe? Including offering [email protected]$23M to block any CSeries sales and destroy the program & Bombardier - as openly admitted by some B...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SaudiGulf drops A220 order, opt for A320 instead
Replies: 6
Views: 2365

Re: SaudiGulf drops A220 order, opt for A320 instead

FWIW, SaudiGulf has been attempting to obtain compensations due to the CS300 missing 2016 delivery dates. While compensation discussions were going on, deliveries were postponed indefinitely... I overheard that their demands were pretty drastic. (So that cancellation is definitely not a big surprise...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reason Red Wings cancelled A220 lease
Replies: 3
Views: 2119

Re: Reason Red Wings cancelled A220 lease

https://airlinerwatch.com/red-wings-airlines-abandons-plans-of-acquiring-six-airbus-a220-300/ This story suggests that the cancellation was due to failure to certify the A220 in Russia which is indicated as a response to Canada not certifying the SSJ100. Anybody have more information on this and ho...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FliegerFaust: Waiting for Airbus to announce the A220-500 with a nice launch customer order
Replies: 61
Views: 15995

Re: FliegerFaust: Waiting for Airbus to announce the A220-500 with a nice launch customer order

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeings-future-plans-threatened-by-airbus-bombardier-pact/ From that October 2017 article, yet still very relevant in many aspects: " While aviation analyst Ferguson believes Airbus would be loathe to undermine its A320 model with a CS500,...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FliegerFaust: Waiting for Airbus to announce the A220-500 with a nice launch customer order
Replies: 61
Views: 15995

Re: FliegerFaust: Waiting for Airbus to announce the A220-500 with a nice launch customer order

I think a A220-500 business case looks good from many angles, and BBD engineered in a stretch / HGW variants from the start. I also share your views from your previous post. From my internal sources, the CSeries was indeed engineered to allow a further stretch & weight increase. However (old in...

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by ExMilitaryEng
Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FliegerFaust: Waiting for Airbus to announce the A220-500 with a nice launch customer order
Replies: 61
Views: 15995

Re: Cost cutting is a reason to launch th A220-500!

Significiant cost cutting is only possible by new contracts with the suppliers. But why should a supplier accept lower prices, if they have a contract for high prices. But there are not contracts for the A220-500 yet, this will offer Airbus the chance of new negotiation - either a supplier offers b...

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