A new order for the A380 might be on the horizon.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-emir ... SKBN1HI272
So would you prefer I use 2010's numbers to give Airbus a 100% market share (though they did it with only 30 frames)? Or would you prefer 2012's numbers since that was the first year both frames were available for sale for a complete calendar year, which would shrink the gap from 88/12 to 62/38 in ...Jump to post
It seems to me the 797 could me much more an attack on the 767/A330 replacement market, 250 seats up to 10 hours. That could be a plausible market. A question is the segment below that, won't the situation get out of hand there for Boeing (marketshare<35%). It's too bad pdxlite stopped updating his...Jump to post
LifelinerOne wrote:SaudiGulf has ordered 16 widebodies at Boeing:
https://twitter.com/scramble_nl/status/ ... 1716273154
For now , it seems there is no competition on narrowbodies. NEO can still outsell MAX even with this backlog. But there is still competition left for widebodies. When orders have been this low it doesn't matter: Airbus: 35 firm vs Boeing: 18 firm One major order will immediately reset the balance.Jump to post
Interesting that Turkish Airlines already have a delivery schedule for 60 planes even if only 50 is firm at the moment if above is correct. I think this whole order is still "only" a commitment. Quote Flight Global: Airbus, in confirming Turkish Airlines' A350 selection in a release of it...Jump to post
Turkish Airlines has struck deals covering orders for 25 Airbus A350-900s and another 25 Boeing 787-9s
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/
Flight Global reports Turkish Airlines commits to 25 A350-900s (+5 options) and 25 787-9s (+5 options).
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/
This shows the top 15 countries by total airliner passengers for 2017. https://i.imgur.com/HxQE9Ir.gif The passengers per capita column gives you a rough idea of how developed airline passenger service is in those countries. As you can see India is woefully behind the rest of the BRICS, so as the w...Jump to post
The A321LR is a perfectly timed aircraft. I expect Airbus to continue to capitalize on it for years. Boeing is too little too late with the 737-10. Maybe the MoM will be successful on the upper end. The 321LR can basically cover all existing narrowbody flights being flown today range wise and at a ...Jump to post
The A319neo completed first flight almost one year ago.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-435775/
It will enter service for sure.
ADrum23 wrote:So has HA officially cancelled their A330neo order and placed a 789 order, or is this still speculation?
The CFM Leap can't deliver the same max. thrust as the PW1100G, so if you want to get the most out of your A321NLR, you really need the PW engines. That being said, with today's PW engines your NEO LR is going nowhere... IMO, the A321NEO LR is a great concept, but it's not a B752 yet. :bored: Geez ...Jump to post
Airbus orders for January:
5 A320ceo (Spirit Airlines)
15 A320neo (CALC)
5 cancellations for A320neo
27 deliveries, incl 4 A350-900s and 2 A330-300's
http://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/o ... eries.html
On a passing note I think that means NEO sales just passed 6000 frames.
Boeing's central challenge with MOM/NMA is to define a market position where the A321neo or a rewinged version thereof has trouble competing, the same way the MAX 9/10 have trouble competing with the A321neo today. The biggest MOM/NMA needs to be bigger than a reasonable A321 stretch; have better C...Jump to post
Vistara may buy up to 60 NEO or MAX.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nst-boeing
StTim wrote:More of the march of the unstoppable A321neo-LR?
I thought that Norwegian had planned to only lease out the NEOs.Jump to post
A new addition in this category seems to be edging closer for both Boeing and Airbus:
Airbus plots response as Boeing warms to new jet
https://www.reuters.com/article/aviatio ... SL8N1PH5OX
Over the vast majority of missions the difference is minimal and adding one more comfort seat row or not, has a bigger effect on CASM than the choice of the aircraft. They are basically the same the A321NEO and 737-10. Only minor differences are the A321s 4000NM (e.g.Trans Atlantic) capability, ava...Jump to post
Oh I am not disagreeing that the A321neo sold more. But using 85% of the current total order market share to make your point is a very misleading when one plane has been available 4-5 years longer than the other. Even an eventual 60:40 split annually is very different from 85:15. Fair enough. I did...Jump to post
I get the impression most people think the A320NEO family is smashing the 737MAX family at the moment. I completely disagree. The Max is roughly a year behind the NEO. 15 month behind in first flight. Sales per year brings it to approx 45/55 split. The Max10 only just launched. Max family sales wou...Jump to post
KarelXWB wrote:Emirates commits to 20 additional A380s, plus 16 options.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... 6-billion#
36 A380 for Emirates :) Firm order + 16 options http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2018/01/18/97002-20180118FILWWW00116-emirates-annonce-avoir-commande-36-a380-pour-16-milliards-de-dollars.php Fantastic!! Thanks for the news! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/emirates-airline-orders-...Jump to post
Let’s hope this info is correct, if true they will finally rid themselves of those pesky, old 60’s dinosaurs: Posted earlier today in a Norwegian forum, and suposedly from an internal SAS memo: «We are happy to announce that we are now in final negotiations with Airbus for a large order of new shor...Jump to post
Amazing NEO sale for December. Does anyone know total sales? Should be just shy of 6000 frames me think. Order book stands at 5873 aircraft. Total sales: 33 A319neo, 4042 A320neo and 1920 A321neo, together 5995 A320neo family frames sold. The Backlog stands at: 33 A319neo, 3813 A320neo and 1900 A32...Jump to post
scbriml wrote:Say it quietly, but total A320 family sales is now getting very close to total 737 family sales - 14,120 to 14,532.
Total orders for December is as follows Middle East Airlines 1 x A321neo Qatar AIrways 50 X 321neo Viva Air 15 x 320ceo, 35 x A320neo Airspace Defence 5 X A330-200 Pegasus 25 x A321neo Delta Airlines 5 x A321ceo, 100 x A321neo Undisclosed 20 x A321neo Aercap 25 x A320neo,25 x A321neo ALC 2 x A320ne...Jump to post
qf789 wrote:Airbus receives 1109 orders
718 deliveries.Jump to post
Articles' salient points : 1. 184 A320 , "soon to be finalized says Macron"( on-top of the 140 A320 order announced by Xi Jinping in Germany mid-2017 ) for 2019-2020 delivery to 13 Chinese airlines 2. 500 Safran-GE engines to be announced soon [/quote] Does that mean we could see another 3...Jump to post
flee wrote:I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!
I assume that Airbus "prefers" these conversions as the A321neo cost some $15 to $20 millions (at listprice) more than the A320neo.Jump to post
Of interest: Airbus Year-End Order Rush Masks Woes Selling Biggest Jets Over 1000 orders, but only 48 are wide-bodies. (carefully stepping over the subsequent fanboy rhetoric).. :) I'll put my cards on the table here and say that, 1000 orders or not, 2017 will be seen as a bad year for Airbus IMO. ...Jump to post
... A32X NEO November total A319 - 51, A320 - 3691,A321 - 1512, Total - 5254 December orders so far Indigo partners A320 - 274, A321 - 156, Total - 430 Delta A321 - 100, Total - 100 VIVA A320 - 35, A321 - 15 , Total - 50 Pegasus A320 - 25, A321 - 25 , Total - 50 Aercap Unspecified 50, Total - 50 (f...Jump to post
KarelXWB wrote:Order has been finalized.
EgyptAir Converts Letter of Intent to Firm Order for Bombardier C Series aircraft
12 firm + 12 options
Thanks Karel. That's 480 frames in one day, 655 so far for December and 943 in 2017. :bigthumbsup: ODs_Airbus_Commercial_Aircraft_November_2017 333 net orders + 655 so far in December and 988 in 2017? :white: Regards. I had other numbers. I'm happy to be corrected though! :highfive: Thanks MilleniumJump to post
Only 332 orders in the year to end November is nowhere near par for course. (On the bright side it allows RJMAZ to claim that Airbus only have 30% market share in narrowbodys, so at least someone gets some happy ;) ) Having a hundred or so engineless frames standing about, and significant questions...Jump to post
Airbus booked the Iranian orders which are now likely to be cancelled. This loss would mean Boeing wins the 2016 "orders" race as the 100 aircraft Iran ordered gave Airbus the nod last year. Not sure how many Airbuses got delivered but we could be looking at Boeing winning back to back &q...Jump to post
panamair wrote:And it's now official....
http://news.delta.com/delta-selects-air ... et-renewal
Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway .....Jump to post
Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway ......Jump to post
Bloomberg reports that Delta Airlines is nearing an order for about 100 single-aisle planes. Quote: "Delta is considering Boeing’s 737 Max 8 and bigger Max 10, along with the Airbus A320neo and larger A321neo aircraft" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-06/delta-is-said-to-eye...Jump to post
What about 787 and A380 had A & B not been a duoploy they would surely have gone under I believe that the 787 will be a real cash cow for Boeing in the coming years so I’m not sure that this counts. In addition the fact that Boeing had cash cows at the time such as the 777 and 737NG ensured tha...Jump to post