The CFM Leap can't deliver the same max. thrust as the PW1100G, so if you want to get the most out of your A321NLR, you really need the PW engines. That being said, with today's PW engines your NEO LR is going nowhere... IMO, the A321NEO LR is a great concept, but it's not a B752 yet. :bored: Geez ...Jump to post
Airbus orders for January:
5 A320ceo (Spirit Airlines)
15 A320neo (CALC)
5 cancellations for A320neo
27 deliveries, incl 4 A350-900s and 2 A330-300's
http://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/o ... eries.html
On a passing note I think that means NEO sales just passed 6000 frames.
Boeing's central challenge with MOM/NMA is to define a market position where the A321neo or a rewinged version thereof has trouble competing, the same way the MAX 9/10 have trouble competing with the A321neo today. The biggest MOM/NMA needs to be bigger than a reasonable A321 stretch; have better C...Jump to post
Vistara may buy up to 60 NEO or MAX.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nst-boeing
StTim wrote:More of the march of the unstoppable A321neo-LR?
I thought that Norwegian had planned to only lease out the NEOs.Jump to post
A new addition in this category seems to be edging closer for both Boeing and Airbus:
Airbus plots response as Boeing warms to new jet
https://www.reuters.com/article/aviatio ... SL8N1PH5OX
Over the vast majority of missions the difference is minimal and adding one more comfort seat row or not, has a bigger effect on CASM than the choice of the aircraft. They are basically the same the A321NEO and 737-10. Only minor differences are the A321s 4000NM (e.g.Trans Atlantic) capability, ava...Jump to post
Oh I am not disagreeing that the A321neo sold more. But using 85% of the current total order market share to make your point is a very misleading when one plane has been available 4-5 years longer than the other. Even an eventual 60:40 split annually is very different from 85:15. Fair enough. I did...Jump to post
I get the impression most people think the A320NEO family is smashing the 737MAX family at the moment. I completely disagree. The Max is roughly a year behind the NEO. 15 month behind in first flight. Sales per year brings it to approx 45/55 split. The Max10 only just launched. Max family sales wou...Jump to post
KarelXWB wrote:Emirates commits to 20 additional A380s, plus 16 options.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... 6-billion#
36 A380 for Emirates :) Firm order + 16 options http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2018/01/18/97002-20180118FILWWW00116-emirates-annonce-avoir-commande-36-a380-pour-16-milliards-de-dollars.php Fantastic!! Thanks for the news! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/emirates-airline-orders-...Jump to post
Let’s hope this info is correct, if true they will finally rid themselves of those pesky, old 60’s dinosaurs: Posted earlier today in a Norwegian forum, and suposedly from an internal SAS memo: «We are happy to announce that we are now in final negotiations with Airbus for a large order of new shor...Jump to post
Amazing NEO sale for December. Does anyone know total sales? Should be just shy of 6000 frames me think. Order book stands at 5873 aircraft. Total sales: 33 A319neo, 4042 A320neo and 1920 A321neo, together 5995 A320neo family frames sold. The Backlog stands at: 33 A319neo, 3813 A320neo and 1900 A32...Jump to post
scbriml wrote:Say it quietly, but total A320 family sales is now getting very close to total 737 family sales - 14,120 to 14,532.
Total orders for December is as follows Middle East Airlines 1 x A321neo Qatar AIrways 50 X 321neo Viva Air 15 x 320ceo, 35 x A320neo Airspace Defence 5 X A330-200 Pegasus 25 x A321neo Delta Airlines 5 x A321ceo, 100 x A321neo Undisclosed 20 x A321neo Aercap 25 x A320neo,25 x A321neo ALC 2 x A320ne...Jump to post
qf789 wrote:Airbus receives 1109 orders
718 deliveries.Jump to post
Articles' salient points : 1. 184 A320 , "soon to be finalized says Macron"( on-top of the 140 A320 order announced by Xi Jinping in Germany mid-2017 ) for 2019-2020 delivery to 13 Chinese airlines 2. 500 Safran-GE engines to be announced soon [/quote] Does that mean we could see another 3...Jump to post
flee wrote:I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!
I assume that Airbus "prefers" these conversions as the A321neo cost some $15 to $20 millions (at listprice) more than the A320neo.Jump to post
Of interest: Airbus Year-End Order Rush Masks Woes Selling Biggest Jets Over 1000 orders, but only 48 are wide-bodies. (carefully stepping over the subsequent fanboy rhetoric).. :) I'll put my cards on the table here and say that, 1000 orders or not, 2017 will be seen as a bad year for Airbus IMO. ...Jump to post
... A32X NEO November total A319 - 51, A320 - 3691,A321 - 1512, Total - 5254 December orders so far Indigo partners A320 - 274, A321 - 156, Total - 430 Delta A321 - 100, Total - 100 VIVA A320 - 35, A321 - 15 , Total - 50 Pegasus A320 - 25, A321 - 25 , Total - 50 Aercap Unspecified 50, Total - 50 (f...Jump to post
KarelXWB wrote:Order has been finalized.
EgyptAir Converts Letter of Intent to Firm Order for Bombardier C Series aircraft
12 firm + 12 options
Thanks Karel. That's 480 frames in one day, 655 so far for December and 943 in 2017. :bigthumbsup: ODs_Airbus_Commercial_Aircraft_November_2017 333 net orders + 655 so far in December and 988 in 2017? :white: Regards. I had other numbers. I'm happy to be corrected though! :highfive: Thanks MilleniumJump to post
Only 332 orders in the year to end November is nowhere near par for course. (On the bright side it allows RJMAZ to claim that Airbus only have 30% market share in narrowbodys, so at least someone gets some happy ;) ) Having a hundred or so engineless frames standing about, and significant questions...Jump to post
Airbus booked the Iranian orders which are now likely to be cancelled. This loss would mean Boeing wins the 2016 "orders" race as the 100 aircraft Iran ordered gave Airbus the nod last year. Not sure how many Airbuses got delivered but we could be looking at Boeing winning back to back &q...Jump to post
panamair wrote:And it's now official....
http://news.delta.com/delta-selects-air ... et-renewal
Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway .....Jump to post
Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway ......Jump to post
Bloomberg reports that Delta Airlines is nearing an order for about 100 single-aisle planes. Quote: "Delta is considering Boeing’s 737 Max 8 and bigger Max 10, along with the Airbus A320neo and larger A321neo aircraft" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-06/delta-is-said-to-eye...Jump to post
What about 787 and A380 had A & B not been a duoploy they would surely have gone under I believe that the 787 will be a real cash cow for Boeing in the coming years so I’m not sure that this counts. In addition the fact that Boeing had cash cows at the time such as the 777 and 737NG ensured tha...Jump to post
KarelXWB wrote:The commitment is for 20 firm + 20 options it seems:
Turkish Airlines announces a commitment to order 20 + 20 787-9 Dreamliners, talks with Boeing started
The minimum is not the safest route. Safety is a culture. That culture doesn't exist at Norwegian. They have no experience to draw upon. May I ask you what experience with you have with NAS that concludes these opinions (NAS doesn't have a safety culture because they have no experience to draw upon)?Jump to post
KTPAFlyer wrote:How did this get approved? What were they thinking!?! I was cringing at the dry humor and could barely finish the video!
Blast barrier soon to follow without doubt. All it takes is 1 to ruin it for everyone. I hope not. People die everywhere for everything. I am sure more people has died drowning at this beach than falling from jet blasts. I hear hiking is also really dangerous. Going to amusement parks is ludacris. ...Jump to post
On a separate note has the B737-10 made significant inroads on the A321 NEO's market share yet? I think it has done quite well - better than the Max 9. It would appear that the current Max 9 backlog has been significantly reduced because many airlines have converted from Max 9 to Max 10. I suspect ...Jump to post
india1 wrote:...and people say Boeing doesn't hold back orders to announce at air shows? Surely, all these couldn't have been closed and signed in a matter of just over 24 hours!
qf789 ... thank you very much for the summary. Do you know how many actual firm orders we have here? For the 737-10? According to the Seattle Times, the breakdown is as follows.. firm orders - 4 new commitments - 90 conversions - 64 total orders/commitments/conversions so far - 158 http://www.seatt...Jump to post
12 A321neos for ALC https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/image/content/dam/products-and-solutions/commercial-aircraft/a320-family/a321neo/A321neo_ALC1.jpg?wid=1196&fit=fit,1 http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2017/06/alc-inks-order-for-12-additional-a321neo-aircraft.html Makes 112...Jump to post
A330freak wrote:KarelXWB wrote:GECAS Announce Order for 20 737 MAX 10s:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-06-19- ... 37-MAX-10s
Order is a conversion of existing MAX orders
https://twitter.com/airwayslive/status/ ... 8530208769
neutrino wrote:But if you do not say what you mean, then you don't mean what you say.
Air India to buy up to 75 frames of either A320NEO or B737MAX families. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-jet-airways-aircraft-idUSKBN18W1EV Umm. You say Air India but your link says Jet Airways. Yeah :blush: Sorry about that. I will repeat what my history teacher said (100 years ago): Don't listen...Jump to post