I'm outtie too. Every single user here seems to spew bias and bs. Joining the BS game was fun for a bit, but no longer
Jump to postOh and I didn't mention, TLV could be a possibility for DTW by 2020. With El Al getting some 787's it'd be the perfect aircraft size for a nonstop, but RJ offers low yields to TLV so would it effect RJ? Either how I think El Al can make 4x weekly work on a 787, easy. There's only one thing that cou...
Jump to postI don't see why no one gets this, so I'll say it again. ME3 lose money. They don't mind losing money because they're subsidized. US3 do have investors to account to in the private sector, and a government that won't protect them from losses. Trying to outcompete ME3 to losses is like trying to melt ...
Jump to postThe short answer is that they haven't had much use for each other. UA has NH as its partner, and the two are rather close JV partners IIRC. No need to funnel people on a backtrack and ULH routing via SIN when you can provide a better routing via TYO. Conversely, SQ never had a strong presence in Nor...
Jump to postYea this is like Best Buy saying hey we would open more stores and create jobs if we could just get the government to step in and shut down Amazon. Let's face it. DL cannot compete. The ME3 will win every time. They are cheaper, more convenient, have better hard products (at least in business/first...
Jump to postWhat half empty A380's? Do you have actual proof or do you just make things up? Do you want to check EK's load factors on some present or former A380 routes? DFW, for example, lasted like that for years before downgauging to 77W. I can't recall the others, but I know they exist And yet cargo might ...
Jump to postWOW!! This thread seems to be getting more contentious by the minute. :stirthepot: I would only point out to folks here that DL seems to be looking for ways to get back to India and perhaps the Middle East via talks with Jet Airways. Essentially bypassing the DXB route and going straight to India a...
Jump to postWOW!! This thread seems to be getting more contentious by the minute. :stirthepot: I would only point out to folks here that DL seems to be looking for ways to get back to India and perhaps the Middle East via talks with Jet Airways. Essentially bypassing the DXB route and going straight to India a...
Jump to postRE: STR I did some numbers on whether DTW-STR could happen. I want to make a quick note: YYZ average fares to STR ($1110) 1 stop, ORD ($1143) 1 stop, DTW ($1431) 2 stops or ($2011) 1 stop. The best bet would be DL, even though DL is doing better with MUC, they're still having trouble with filling u...
Jump to postRE: STR I did some numbers on whether DTW-STR could happen. I want to make a quick note: YYZ average fares to STR ($1110) 1 stop, ORD ($1143) 1 stop, DTW ($1431) 2 stops or ($2011) 1 stop. The best bet would be DL, even though DL is doing better with MUC, they're still having trouble with filling u...
Jump to postYes but one can put any spin on the numbers they want to paint the picture they want to paint. I think the numbers for 2007 are the best indicators to where Detroit was in the NWA days to where it is today with Delta. I'd rather ride an MD jet any day over that sardine can 737-800/900 If the number...
Jump to postSome how I find that hard to believe considering the amount of destinations that have been cut in this market. In 2008 the merger was already announced so Delta was already scaling back the NWA operations to bring them in line with Delta's vision of how the combined network would look. I think you ...
Jump to postSome quick thoughts on DL's preliminary early fall schedule (which will change, of course): - DL continues its trend of offering more capacity at DTW during the fall months than it did so during peak summer months; DL clearly utilizes DTW to chase high-yielding business traffic. - 201 peak-day main...
Jump to postI know for certain that DEN doesn't have much of an int'l network compared to other airports, so it's bound to have a lower percentage. Some airports (such as DXB and SIN) are 100% int'l due to lack of domestic traffic existing. On the other side of that coin are the numerous airports with no int'l...
Jump to postI know for certain that DEN doesn't have much of an int'l network compared to other airports, so it's bound to have a lower percentage. Some airports (such as DXB and SIN) are 100% int'l due to lack of domestic traffic existing. On the other side of that coin are the numerous airports with no int'l...
Jump to postBuildingMyBento wrote:ASQ400 wrote:I'd expect unsafe places like CCS, BEY, DAM (if anyone still serves it), or LOS (as mentioned) would make anyone's list
Why BEY? Seems ridiculous to mention it.
DTW is the 18 largest airport in the US and has the 14th largest MSA. Since NYC has 3 airports but 1 MSA, it seems DTW has the right level of service for its population size. Look at PHX, it has almost no international service despite having a large corporate presence and a similar population to De...
Jump to postLY's single-digit flights are for more "flagship" runs
1/2 and 7/8 for TLV-JFK, 5/6 for TLV-LAX, etc
Swissair
Swiss
Sabena
El Al
Lufthansa
Air France
United
Continental
Delta
Air Canada
Alaska (incl. Horizon and mainstream)
Virgin America
Southwest
But you are all missing the point DTW does not serve Detroit for the most part it serves the region more than anything. The airport just shares it's name with a city that WAS in decay but it's user base is not from the city perse the greatest number of people who use DTW are from the surrounding ci...
Jump to postBut here is the problem the more you pile on in Chicago the smaller the market gets so any new entrant into the Chicago market is actually competing for a lesser market share than it would in Detroit. You say the Chicago market is four times bigger than the Detroit market but yet has probably 10 to...
Jump to postAs someone who spent significant years at an Airline involved in the DTW market, and with Airport Authorities around the Ohio Valley, I can state that: 1. There is no " agenda" at DL against DTW. NW/DL have made significant capital investments in facilities, staff, and marketing to create...
Jump to postThe only merger I can see B6 in is with AS. Their hubs and networks could synergize to form a carrier with strength in both coasts (with business clientele) and both beach markets (where tourists go). It's somewhat like the B6-VX merger that didn't happen, but on a bigger scale. Note that I would se...
Jump to postWildly different niches. B6, both mainline and Mint, offers a service greater or equal to legacies (at a somewhat lower cost)
NK offers the lowest fare, beating out all amenities to get it.
The two attract different segments of the population
Could posters perhaps give examples of routes where 763s appear instead of 738s in high summer in Europe (as opposed to as well as)? There aren't all that many European airlines that actually have both types in their fleet. Plenty of 738 operators of course, but the only 738 + 763 operators I can t...
Jump to postDepends. On a full flight, I'll take the 2-seat side. On an emptier one, I'd gun for empty middle
Jump to postI'd expect unsafe places like CCS, BEY, DAM (if anyone still serves it), or LOS (as mentioned) would make anyone's list
Jump to postI know for certain that DEN doesn't have much of an int'l network compared to other airports, so it's bound to have a lower percentage. Some airports (such as DXB and SIN) are 100% int'l due to lack of domestic traffic existing. On the other side of that coin are the numerous airports with no int'l ...
Jump to postThe 763 adds one extra seat per row. It also adds another aisle and a much larger fuselage. IIRC, the CASM is higher, especially when compared to a newer 738. That said, there are many variables. For example on a slot constrained airport like LHR, at peak times it makes sense to deploy a larger jet...
Jump to postAdd to that: Aegean, eurowings, Egyptair, brussels airlines...they can feed from many of those destination into BUD... and making it possible for US based pax to fly into BUD and back to the US from BRU, VIE, ZRH, FRA, etc .. I would not see many pax ditching the nonstops UA/LH+LX+OS offer already....
Jump to postAnybody knows what's in stock for DL HNL-NRT/KIX? Will it be A350 or a big downgauge?
Jump to postI personally hope LY might buy in for their New York flights. Those 744s are running at capacity, so I don't want to imagine a 77E on it 779 anyone? So to crush your hopes, I don't see it happening, no business case for the B748i. That's a while in the future. Although I see your point, a 5-year 74...
Jump to postI personally hope LY might buy in for their New York flights. Those 744s are running at capacity, so I don't want to imagine a 77E on it
Jump to postOne neat new development in DTW regards Lufthansa. As of today they are now running the 747-400 on the DTW / FRA run instead of the usual A340-300. I believe the schedule goes through at least the end of September so there is some more Queen of the Sky action at DTW these days! https://youtu.be/5gi...
Jump to postWith the right subsidies, anything can happen. China, after all, is a land of subsidisation
Jump to postThat area sucks. Stockton and Vallejo have both gone bankrupt and Oakland is a bigger ghetto than Detroit. I'm surprised that they even have an airport there, the people are so poor. Facts are correct, but assertion is not. No one ever seriously said DTW shouldn't exist. The staunchest critics say ...
Jump to post[quote="ASQ400]Downtown Detroit is the big revival that the media enjoys covering. But I suppose as an omniscient god, you see right through the media and guide the invisible hand to make the economy be whatever[/quote] No, but if you live here, you know what's going on. That's just like sayin...
Jump to postEither way it just does not make sense for United to merge with Jetblue after they just got done merging with Continental a few years ago. Even now they are still trying to relax the airline. Stupid rumors like this have been going on for years. And Blueballs gives no actual evidence to support his...
Jump to postI personally don't know of any true domestic tag-ons, but UA does some weird things with reusing flight numbers. One of the SFO-IAD frequencies is tag-tied to an IAD-BOS flight, despite equipment change. There is the one QF 744 that flies BNE-LAX-JFK, and the same flight number going SYD-LAX-JFK, bu...
Jump to postI think B6-NK and F9-G4 mergers are more likely. Not with B6's brand. JetBlue has business contracts and whatnot, setting them apart from ULCCs like NK Branding is a sales gimmick. Mergers and Acquisitions couldn't care less. Purely a pursuit of synergies. In the airline industry, it can have more ...
Jump to postNYPECO wrote:Which hub would UA keep? EWR or JFK? I'm assuming they wouldn't be allowed both.
Varsity1 wrote:I think B6-NK and F9-G4 mergers are more likely.
Should be fine with 1h40. You would stay in the same terminal for the whole time
Jump to postYes they are trying to get earnings up to drive the price up. When I say running on fumes I simply mean there is not a spare aircraft or pilot around. They are running so tight and burning guys out so much the operation falls apart weekly. On time performance is a running joke. They are running thi...
Jump to postSo then you'll have three dysfunctional airlines pretending to be one. How will they erroneously blend B6 into the fold? Strange tartan patterns replacing lat-lon lines on all the CO tail globes? Three dysfunctional airlines?! It's really just the one. CO was still Bethune's world-class operation w...
Jump to postI'm wondering why many people here are always wanting to merge the few remaining U.S. airlines? My God at the rate y'all suggest mergers, there will be just one carrier in less than a decade in the U.S.. I don't get the fascination with merger mania here. B6 is better off w/o UA & UA has enough...
Jump to postI could see B6 and AS merging. That's it. This is the only merger involving B6 that would even make sense. Create a national 400+ airplane airline alternative to the US3+WN. Well that or my fantasy HA-AS-B6 triple merger which would create a situation of US4+WN (yes WN would still be larger but WN ...
Jump to postYeah, not going to happen. Scott Kirby wants to bring p.s. back to JFK, but moving anything beyond that would only hurt them (JFK is less reliable than EWR). BOS doesn't make sense for the UA network at all. As for FLL/MCO, Florida/Caribbean is a weak spot for UA, but they seem to be managing with I...
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