When BA adds DTW, ORD will be gutted as it lives on DTW, CLE, CVG, CMH, IND, STL, MCI, DSM, MSP, and MKE leakage, but 90% from DTW! At best ORD-LHR is a BA 757 route, less than daily.
Jump to postI’m surprised no one has mentioned DTW-SIN, dies the fan club finally realized the world does not revolve around DTW.
Jump to postOnce the new gates are open you will see a large increase in flights. Gates are slowly being added. T3 has 5 new E170 gates opening next year. T5 is adding 9 new gates which is huge for international (T5 is maxed out now at peak times). This is 14 new gates in the next two years which should add at ...
Jump to postPortugal is heavily NE US centric. DL will use the ATL mega-hub for seasonal service. TP to California and ORD (Star hub) could work.
But I’m sure the trolls will respond in due time about their favorite airports.
Title says it all! I questioned the ATL thread with DTW fan club getting to post negative ATL comments, but it was deleted. Go figure. This forum is the DTW referendum on the world! If you don't like it, you'll get temporarily banned! Unless you are part of the DTW movement, your right to free speec...
Jump to postThe entitled to BA LHR service from the States has now expanded to CDG! I'm sure FRA, AMS, and seasonal to FCO is mandatory for any airport with a 9,000' runway, and more than 5M boarding per year.
Jump to postJFK and ORD will happen nonstop in some form. Outside if that, only OneWorld hubs make sense, and CLT, MIA, PHL, and PHX seem like a stretch.
Jump to postHow long until the Midwest Entitled Airports chime in (ORD is not one of them)?
Jump to postBA 193 747-400 LHR-DFW has diverted to MEM That seems very odd. Why wouldn't BA en route to IAH divert to one of AA's hub airports (JFK/ORD/PHL/MIA/DFW) How on earth will BA/AA move these around from such a small operation. Maybe they had a medical emergency. LHR-IAH was cancelled. This is LHR-DFW....
Jump to postI guess AA should move their ORD-LHR slots to IND, MCI, STL, and another city and let BA run 4-5 daily 380/744. A win / win for everyone (unless you are the day trip city getting ORDs 9am departure).
Jump to postI guess ORD and YYZ are on the chopping blocks since they only are viable due to leakage from the Midwest 4.
Jump to postLike I've said before the Americas is a tricky one for QF. It's a good part of their business but there are a limited number of places that Australians want to go. Beyond daily services to LAX, SFO, DFW, YVR and JFK from BNE, MEL and SYD, I am struggling to think of where next. ORD has been mention...
Jump to postMZT fits in well with ORD. The gun-killing express! Although MDW would be closer to the action.
Jump to postIf it wasn't for DL, DTW would be 2nd on the list.
Jump to postAnd for those other Midwestern cities: These are America's worst cities for crime, employment, housing costs http://www.wfaa.com/news/nation-world/t ... /451891806 1. Detroit > Population: 677,124 > Median home value: $42,600 > Poverty rate: 39.8% > Pct. with at least a bachelor’s degree: 14.2% Once...
Jump to postI did hear that ORD-BCN is filling J every day. I thought this might go to Level to beat DY, but AA may have something here. Maybe DFW-BCN will follow!
Jump to postDTW is the 18 largest airport in the US and has the 14th largest MSA. Since NYC has 3 airports but 1 MSA, it seems DTW has the right level of service for its population size. Look at PHX, it has almost no international service despite having a large corporate presence and a similar population to De...
Jump to postHere is the link: These are America's worst cities for crime, employment, housing costs http://www.wfaa.com/news/nation-world/these-are-americas-worst-cities-for-crime-employment-housing-costs/451891806 1. Detroit > Population: 677,124 > Median home value: $42,600 > Poverty rate: 39.8% > Pct. with a...
Jump to postRead the story about "Detroit crime", my links aren't working from my tablet.
Detroit population went from 4th largest at 1.8M to under 700K today. Crime per 1,000 people is insane. And your friends in Flint were 2nd worst city behind Detroit. These are the facts.
As someone who spent significant years at an Airline involved in the DTW market, and with Airport Authorities around the Ohio Valley, I can state that: 1. There is no " agenda" at DL against DTW. NW/DL have made significant capital investments in facilities, staff, and marketing to create...
Jump to postWhen will ORD get some love? No 764s, no 788s, no 789s, no 77Ws... ORDs getting RJs to CHO, CMI, and seasonal mainline to RNO! Maybe Kirby will finally bring new metal into ORD. HKG is screaming for the 77W, and with the loss of the SIN tag, maybe UA will re-time the flight and run it to FRA where ...
Jump to postChicago Peotone "Barack Obama International Airport." If Illinois can borrow the money to build it, EK will be there with hourly 380 service, nonstop and via Europe!
Jump to postWN will start MIA the day they start DFW, IAH (resume), and ORD.
Jump to postORD-KOA/LIH could work seasonally for UA.
Unlike the midwest, AA has conceded ORD-Hawaii to UA. Glad to see Kirby at UA. He will go after AA. Let's see if Parker responds or gives up ORD.
GSPSPOT wrote:PEK777 wrote:Yet they won't fly mainline to markets like MKE and MCI. SAD!
At least UA has mainline from MKE to ORD and DEN.
No offense to the D's (DFW & DTW), LH will not be starting flights from your airport to MUC.
DTW: DL does it seasonally, and not a * hub.
DFW: AA doesn't do it, and not a * hub.
No market for LH.
And UA increasing ORD-OGG to 5x weekly. Kirby is making a difference already.
Jump to postProbably just the routine contract announcements at ORD.
Jump to poststlgph wrote:Copa flies into O'Hare, Denver, Washington Dulles, San Francisco and (for what it's worth in the UA system) Los Angeles.
You're way more optimistic than me because I don't see it ever happening as it's not in the WCAA's grand scheme of things as it would be directly at odds with Delta's business. Do you ever have anything positive to say? Its really frustrating every time you post because DL is bad, DTW is bad, every...
Jump to postNow I know where my policy increase this month is going!
Jump to postThere will be no International flights at DAL due to the Wright (Wrong) Amendment agreement.
DY to HOU is an interesting proposition. While I consider Houston Tier 1, HOU would be mid-sized.
While many think MSP is a bit far north to be a "true east - west" connecting hub... MSP does offer many high dollar O&D passengers with the multiple Fortune 500 companies located in the Twin Cities. Also, their is not a "significant" LCC threat. Sure, Sun Country is there, b...
Jump to postwenders825 wrote:I wonder if they'd ever do DFW-MUC. neither AA or LH are in this market, despite the fact that both compete on DFW-FRA. have to wonder if it's there or not...
Has AA expressed any interest in returning to TLV from any of their hubs? Maybe an A330 JFK-TLV once they finish cross-fleeting? After much, MUCH research, I still don't know if the decision to pull out of PHL-TLV had anything to do with the TW ordeal, nor do I know if it is preventing them from re...
Jump to postOutside of YYZ, where would they add in North America? LAX, ORD, or MIA?
Jump to postWill UA re-time ORD-HKG for better aircraft utilization? Also, this opens up the door for ORD-SIN nonstop or ORD-XXX(via Asia)-SIN. Makes much more sense than the low-yield ORD-AMS-SIN flight.
Jump to postLH has been at DFW since the early 80's. They've developed a loyal following, and many transplants to DFW come from areas where LH is strong (ORD, LAX, NYC, etc.).
EK seems to be the odd man out, and they were the first in and brought in the whale. Just goes to show how EY and QR ties to AA help.
I think Detroit is a very good bet. What a shock! Please research and note that there are no available Tier 1 cities available. Maybe there is a CTU or something we don't know about that DTW owns. Please note that people in this forum are sick and tired of "DTW." Every stinking thread is ...
Jump to postThose DTW (NW / KLM) fanboys are still going to complain endlessly that DL is screwing them over by retiring 744s and replacing them with A350s. They will never be happy...ever. No kidding. Until DTW has 120M passengers a year, 110M aircraft movements, nonstops to every continent (including Antarct...
Jump to postMaxTrimm wrote:Good adds. ORD-CUN seems like a bloodbath.
In the latest Southwest Airlines schedule release DTW-LAS goes from once daily to once weekly. Southwest in my opinion is a shame to DTW, they cut all FL routes, and brought back a winter seasonal once weekly and Saturday MCO that lasts until the first week of April which IMHO is pathetic. I really...
Jump to post789 can do AKL-ORD, not sure about SYD-ORD unless it is less seats.
Jump to postUAs LAX ship has sailed. Keep SFO the hub and focus on business markets from LAX.
Jump to postJFK and ORD (non stop) make sense with AA connections. Heck, ORD was announced on MEL-LAX-ORD but dropped with SARS.
Not sure what BOS brings to the table.
DFW and ORD actually make sense. This would not impact the no code share on same market and opens up pleanty of connections that AS can't offer east of DFW and ORD.
LAX, SFO, PDX are a given.