To switch up the topic a bit in this thread. There is a lengthy thread about the speculation of United opening a new SE hub. RDU came up a lot. Personally, I highly doubt it would happen, but I’m curious to play this one out hypothetically. Let’s assume United was interested in using RDU as a small ...
Jump to postIndy wrote:Does a LH business class ticket get you entry into the UA lounge?
Congrats to RDU on landing Copa to PTY! Somebody on the airport's route development team is certainly working overtime these days! Kudos! Does anyone know if subsidies are in play here? I'm sure the airport has an incentive package but how about city/state/corporate subsidies being offered? bb From...
Jump to postInteresting route. RDU is on a role. I really hope it succeeds, but I fear it will be tough. Outside of a handful of secondary South America markets that the US3 don’t fly to, they will be have to get their advantage from price. That’s hard to do when it’s not daily. I also wish I scheduled my recen...
Jump to postWith the way things have been going for RDU, nothing would surprise me at this point. Who ever would have predicted BahamasAir to Freeport? Even the MEX flight has little justification based on passenger numbers and complete lack of connection possibilities outside of Mexico. Although now saturated,...
Jump to postMy guess is that BA will be taking over the LHR flight.
Jump to postI'm curious about something regarding Lufthansa flight times. I have 2 trips booked on this future flight. The first in June on its 2nd operating day, and one in late October. The flight times in my bookings are showing: 10:20-13:50 for June and 10:20-15:10 for October. Why the 1 hour and 20 minutes...
Jump to postWith only 42 PDEW on RDU-MEX, will onward destinations inside Mexico cover the gap needed? MEX makes little sense for a transit option to non-Mexico destinations, as it's a significant backtrack to almost all Central and South American airports. Even taking one of the longest routes as an example, R...
Jump to postDummy bookings for the same dates in peak US summer holiday season: Thursday July 4th to Saturday July 13th. Prices are pretty constant on other dates with the exceptions of CDG fluctuating between $1300 and $1600, and business between $5000 and $9000. One note I'll make is that Air France's premium...
Jump to postAlso from the RDU press release:
Aircraft: A330-300
Seats: 255 total (42 Business, 28 Premium Economy, 185 Economy)
RDU has confirmed it. 5x/weekly start June 6th on a A330-300.
Jump to postIf true, it will be pretty impressive for an airport of this size to have TATL service on all 3 airline alliances. I don't know exactly how many airports do, but I assume it's limited to major metros. And we even have a low cost option with IcelandAir.
Jump to postInteresting list. Almost all of the top 10 entities in the list are based in cities with at least ten flights a day to Europe. SAT is probably looking to start with 2 to 4 flights a week. That’s a very small fraction of the amount of flights NYC or the Bay Area have ( 3 per week compared to 80+ per...
Jump to postIt’s now loaded into Air France’s schedule as daily starting March 31st, which is a big sigh of relief. I was expecting the worse considering Delta’s radio silence on the matter. I never would have thought I’d ever prefer to connect at CDG, but LHR has turned an into shtshow. Bad news is that Econ f...
Jump to postDelta’s schedule still has MWF until late March with Daily service onward. They are still actively selling their Delta One product throughout the schedule. Air France is actively selling their product on the 787 on the same days with significant price differences in J. I would like to book in Novem...
Jump to postIm surprised at how sloppy this announcement of the launch was. Delta has yet to publicly announce what its intentions are with RDU-CDG. Will Air France takeover all operations or is this temporary for the winter? I understand there is probably a wait and see approach for multiple things, but at lea...
Jump to postA plus for us, is that award pricing and availability now becomes infinitely better. There will actually be opportunities to get business award space on this route, and Flying Blue Promos give chances to fly for dirt cheap in economy.
Jump to postLooks like a reduction in service. DL dropping this from 7 weekly down to 3 and Air France adding 3 weekly. Delta's schedule reduction was only for the winter. It's showing daily service in late March. I have to assume Air France will pick up the same schedule in the Spring of next year. Unlikely D...
Jump to posthttps://corporate.airfrance.com/en/news/winter-2023-2024-air-france-further-expands-north-american-network-and-introduces-new-service Air France article implies a full swap of service: "This route was previously operated by Delta Air Lines, Air France's partner in the transatlantic joint ventur...
Jump to postHmmmm… interesting. This is probably AF testing the route for potential full take-over and Delta freeing up an airplane for a potential second route. But where… it won’t be AMS.: that’s just I much of a mess. Perhaps South for a LATAM destination? I mean, it’s plausible… maybe not but still interes...
Jump to postRDU-CDG transitions to AF this winter, replacing DL on some flights on the route. DL will fly 3x/week and AF 3x/week. https://ishrionaviation.com/news/air-france-raleigh-durham?fbclid=IwAR1IwnLE1mQoqeVhKoOTFKBcVV15Iw7GcrC1yTGGv37imG5SGAZ6v2YfWt0_aem_AfDkqf0rnjqFr_n8r0w8yWR-l4VVFP6AfFCLae52pji4lMyL2...
Jump to postpmanni1 wrote:Looks like a reduction in service. DL dropping this from 7 weekly down to 3 and Air France adding 3 weekly.
USAirALB wrote:Tampa is a major tourism destination, the Triangle is not.
Not to pile on-- after all preferences are very personal-- but if you're flying to LAX would you rather change in ATL to pick up a wide body for the bulk of the trip? No. Because there aren’t better options direct from RDU. If I’m going to continental Europe from RDU, there are much better 1 stop o...
Jump to postTalk about an airport with clustered banks, all flights from US arrive within minutes and then they all leave on a bank to Europe and then the airport is empty. What was wrong with 737? The flight to KEF is only what an hour further than flying to the west coast— how bad can that be!? And the plane...
Jump to postTalk about an airport with clustered banks, all flights from US arrive within minutes and then they all leave on a bank to Europe and then the airport is empty. What was wrong with 737? The flight to KEF is only what an hour further than flying to the west coast— how bad can that be!? And the plane...
Jump to postI recently flew to KEF. Our departure was delayed about 1.5 to 2 hours, so the flight crew allowed those with connections to deplane first. It seemed like it was about 50% of the sold out plane. If you are price conscious and flying TATL from the Triangle, it’s hard to beat their aggressive pricing....
Jump to postThe flights, well flight, is now bookable throughout Qatar's schedule. I was waiting a while for this in order to change a flight I had from another destination to Bahrain. Though, I'm pretty disappointed that there is only 1 flight per day, even 5 months from now when I'm travelling. I guess I'll w...
Jump to postCmac787 wrote:Good News.
United is insourcing below the wing at RDU. Will happen between 11-1-2023 and 5-1-2024.
Up to 80 Ramp employees.
I love RDU as an airport, but what has been frustrating for the 9 years that I've lived here is the business pricing and award availability on the TATLs out of RDU. I have never, and I do mean never, seen J award availability open up on either the RDU-LHR or RDU-CDG. It doesn't matter if you search ...
Jump to postWould Condor really consider a non-tourism based airport like RDU, or is their leisure focus more concentrated in Europe? Also, would a seasonal flight be feasible, ie during the summer months? I'm not sure how accurate this wiki page is, but if they tried these services that are listed as Terminat...
Jump to postAn outside the box pick for new TATL within the next year or two would be Condor to FRA. They aren't afraid to launch mid-market seasonal routes for 3x weekly, although most don't stick. They have many connection options on the euro-end with Lufthansa/Austrian/Lot/Swiss/Czech. They have an inter-lin...
Jump to postThe consolation in Delta's retreat from RDU is that AA and UA are catching back up in terms of service, reliability, and loyalty program. Delta was head and shoulders the leader with a superior product for many years. I still believe they are the leader, but the gap is much smaller today. I no longe...
Jump to postHas there been any updates or discussions on restoring flights to Bahrain?
Jump to postDoes anyone know if the Bahamasair flight was flown today? RDU.com didn't show it on its online departures board.
Jump to postI remember it was served a few years ago too and failed. This route will most certainly be a failure. Nobody wants to go to Freeport, and instead of connecting in Freeport to Nassau, a lot more people are more comfortable just connecting with their existing airlines Yeah, I posted the same thing wh...
Jump to postBecause of my curiosity, I checked expertflyer for my our upcoming Bahamasair flight to FPO in November. With 138 seats on their 737-500, only 21 seats are currently reserved. They do not charge for seat selection during the purchase. I similarly checked the inaugural flight on the 17th, and it’s ev...
Jump to postWhy would East Asian traffic ever connect in India? Or am I missing the relevance of mentioning China in regards to a hypothetical Indian flight? For someone looking to fly to China from RDU, it’s far easier to connect regionally because it allows more options than you can get somewhere in the US. ...
Jump to postWhy would East Asian traffic ever connect in India? Or am I missing the relevance of mentioning China in regards to a hypothetical Indian flight?
Jump to postI saw the article pop up on my Social Media feed, and my first thought was the comments that will flow in this thread. While the IcelandAir or Bahamasair flights would have attracted the same disdain if anyone would have predicted them prior to the announcements, a direct flight to India is pretty a...
Jump to postFor those championing RDU-SJC, I can’t see a valid business case for that in today’s climate. That route ties up a lot of aircraft time for low returns, especially with business travel and the tech sector both being down. There are many hubs between the two cities that provide ample connection oppo...
Jump to postI’ve always wondered where the planes get deployed for seasonal destinations. Does IcelandAir just park a quantity of their planes for Jan and Feb? Or is there sustained European traffic to KEF in those months where they can shift them to?
Jump to postTBJ has another article about available incentives from RDU. They are prioritizing TATL and TPAC flights, but the article mentions other markets: "The policy outlines what it calls “target markets" for RDU. In terms of domestic service, that’s unserved routes in Oregon, California, Washing...
Jump to postIt helps IcelandAir that LHR and CDG aren't pleasant places to make connections in. I'd say they are 2 worst large hubs in Europe for non-shengen connections. After the 3rd horrible experience in a row at LHR (without checked baggage), I swore off ever making a connection there again.
Jump to postRDU-Freeport (FPO) is now bookable on Bahamasair’s website. 2x weekly launching in November on the 737-700. Loads were poor when they flew the same route around a decade ago so this should be interesting. When I did a dummy booking on the website earlier today, it appeared to be a 737-500. Not too ...
Jump to postWhat I've noticed for the past year or so, is that American has been pretty aggressive in their pricing out of RDU compared to Delta and United, including on international routings. I'm not sure if this has been company wide or specific targeting at RDU to chip away at Delta's market share.
Jump to postRDU-Freeport (FPO) is now bookable on Bahamasair’s website. 2x weekly launching in November on the 737-700. Loads were poor when they flew the same route around a decade ago so this should be interesting. When I did a dummy booking on the website earlier today, it appeared to be a 737-500. Not too ...
Jump to postAs a transplant to the area, I have to say that the little brother syndrome that true locals have with respect to Charlotte is pretty annoying. Even though it's getting harder and harder to find people that are actually from Raleigh, you definitely spot them in the forums. Has anybody heard any upda...
Jump to post10 years ago, but yes, that is correct. It was also through a vacation company back then that used Xtra, Vision, and Bahamasair, though this seems to be directly through the latter this time around. Yup. I’m surprised they’re not going to launch Nassau. Nassau is their operating base & is a far...
Jump to postWhy so down on BHM? The Birmingham MSA is similar in size to the Raleigh MSA and is rapidly growing (MSA growth, not city specific growth). BHM the airport is held down by being so close to ATL. As for professional teams, not that it matters, same reason as the airport issues, and some might say we...
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