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by Midwestindy
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Is DL being aggressive? Or is this normal for them in the IND market? Well considering over the past year they have added frequencies or larger aircraft to every single route except IND-RDU, I'd say that is pretty aggressive Still find it interesting, looking back clear to the USAir hub days, how L...

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by Midwestindy
Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Good news today from DL:

IND-LAX is upguaged to the B738 starting in April
IND-ATL gets 3xB757 in April, and still maintains its 10x frequency
2x Saturday IND-BOS extended through August

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Big week ahead for IND in terms of inbound travel, fall break travelers are returning and FFA convention also starts up next week which is 65,000 attendees
Checked today and more than half of WN's flights were sold out

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 82
Views: 8269

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

axiom wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
axiom wrote:

Yes, really. MCO still rivals DL focus cities in revenue and passengers carried.


Larger than RDU and CVG


At last reference, yes.


Yeah I was agreeing with you, haha

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 82
Views: 8269

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

If you don't understand that MCO is a "major city" (whatever that is) for DL, you aren't in a position to dismiss that possibility. Not really. MCO used to be a much larger station for Delta. They pretty much had the entire airside to themselves. They allowed the LCC's to take away their ...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

stlgph wrote:
Surprised we haven't seen DL IND-JFK creep back up to 3 for next summer. Or perhaps it has and I just missed it.


It’s loaded in starting in June, LFs were good last summer despite the CDG flight

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 229
Views: 20171

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

We should stay on point and discuss Charleston here. But these are pointless statistics. How are they calculating "visitor" is it every family and person who was driving across the country on the many interstates thru these cities and grabbed lunch downtown. They were technically visitors...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 229
Views: 20171

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

We should stay on point and discuss Charleston here. But these are pointless statistics. How are they calculating "visitor" is it every family and person who was driving across the country on the many interstates thru these cities and grabbed lunch downtown. They were technically visitors...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 82
Views: 8269

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

flymco753 wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
MCO and DTW to GRU are ending.
DTW-GRU isnt going anywhere. It's still loaded.


DL makes schedule changes tonight, there is nothing to say they couldn't remove it

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 229
Views: 20171

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Can we chill with this "CHS is a mecca for tourism and industry" Why? It is, and it is. Especially when considering the flight's entire catchment area. It really isn't though, that is not a dig at the city of Charleston and the surrounding areas, Charleston is simply not a well known tour...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta add daily EDI-BOS
Replies: 42
Views: 5943

Re: Delta add daily EDI-BOS

Keep it coming!

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 229
Views: 20171

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Can we chill with this "CHS is a mecca for tourism and industry" Let's look at the facts, shall we: It is half the size of the market of CMH. If you add CHS+SAV, it is not far away from the top. This is also a premium holiday market that is easy to stimulate (non-stop flight, holiday pack...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1427
Views: 115615

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

You may be just fine on FL, but many business folks will not be taking a carrier that with any operational problems will misconnect and always be at least a day late with no options for rerouting on the carrier. With UA,DL,AA you will have many options from all over Europe. Last winer I had a fligh...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Here is a question for pretty much anyone. Is there an international arrivals area in a U.S. airport that isn't basically in the basement? I think part (or maybe all) of ORD's might be a bit more open. Places like ATL and DTW are like a dungeon. IND as well. Who has the most open and brightest inte...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90369

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

klm617 wrote:
There really is nothing to get upset about the BA twice a week LHR-CHS flight it equates to nothing more than a twice a week four month summer charter flight nothing more nothing less. Who knows if it even comes back in 2020.


That is a dangerous precedent to set in the air service world

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 229
Views: 20171

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Can we chill with this "CHS is a mecca for tourism and industry" Let's look at the facts, shall we: https://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Top-25-unserved-US-markets.jpg It is half the size of the market of CMH Sure there are manufacturing facilities in the area Boeing, Volvo, e....

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by Midwestindy
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 229
Views: 20171

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

"The Charleston International Airport is investing approximately $9 million to expand their kitchen, customs, and tarmac operations to support this and other long-haul destinations." "As part of the recruitment effort, the state Commerce Department allocated $1.3 million toward costs ...

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by Midwestindy
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90369

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

https://www.postandcourier.com/business ... a444b.html

Absolute slap in the face to STL, that CHS was chosen before STL. The route development team in STL needs a shakeup, now!
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https://www.postandcourier.com/business ... a444b.html

Absolute slap in the face to STL, that CHS was chosen before STL. The route development team in STL needs a shakeup, now!

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by Midwestindy
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Looking forward/dreading to see what happens with NYC/IND fares after Southwest leaves the market in January. Looking ahead, it looks as though Delta, United, American are in the $200 hovering range for basic economy, $250-$350 for regular economy fares. Much better than I expected. I don't think f...

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Q2 2O18 O&D numbers Q2 ’17-’18 increase/decrease in PDEW, increase/decrease in average fares, (PDEW), Largest carrier/market share NYC +78 pax +$3 (795 PDEW)--DL/37% MCO +17 pax +3 (645 PDEW)--WN/68% DC ( -47 pax ) +$21 (618 PDEW)--AA/45% LA (-6 pax) -$11 (489 PDEW)--WN/36% TPA/PIE +41 pax -$11 ...

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico axes MEX-BOS/PDX/IAD + MTY-LAS + GDL-SJC
Replies: 44
Views: 5506

Aeromexico axes MEX-BOS/PDX/IAD + MTY-LAS + GDL-SJC

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-aeromexico-axes-network-and-fleet-after-to-452791/ Aeromexico will suspend service on nine routes in 2019, five of which are US transborder city pairs. The airline will end flights from Mexico City to Boston, Portland (Oregon) and Washington Dulles...

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV
Replies: 62
Views: 5865

Re: Possible future WestJet U.S. destinations with Delta JV

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D= ... -0154-0001

Looks like they claim: Additional frequencies or enhanced service (i.e., seasonal to year-round) on at least 14 existing nonstop routes, and at least 6 new nonstop transborder routes
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https://www.regulations.gov/document?D= ... -0154-0001

Looks like they claim: Additional frequencies or enhanced service (i.e., seasonal to year-round) on at least 14 existing nonstop routes, and at least 6 new nonstop transborder routes

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

https://d1j6zi7czwjuok.cloudfront.net/i ... 6.2018.pdf
October Board packet

Lots of Infosys stuff and some FedEx stuff as well
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https://d1j6zi7czwjuok.cloudfront.net/i ... 6.2018.pdf
October Board packet

Lots of Infosys stuff and some FedEx stuff as well

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Btw, it looks like next March could test the set up of int'l arrivals: For Saturdays PUJ-IND arrives at 5:25pm, DL CDG-IND arrives 5:40pm, WN CUN-IND arrives 6:15pm I was sitting here trying to think how you could band-aid this problem short term. My thoughts are you could potentially put up a temp...

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

One potential complication to having multiple transatlantic flights is that I don't think you can park widebodies at A4 and A5 simultaneously. Also, you can't have a flight boarding on A5 while an international arrival is disembarking on A4. (This is also why I'm skeptical any transpacific flights ...

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1613
Views: 151446

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

PIT is looking to be gone too, STL is confirmed. They are out of money and the legacies are price matching them so they keep losing money and are basically cutting everywhere they see. They even cut JFK... I honestly can’t see PIT getting cut until they go under I wouldn't be that bullish https://p...

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by Midwestindy
Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

I would presume, going off a rough estimate of corporate interests in industry, finance, general interest, and what have you, some of the top cities for international European travel would be London, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf, Stockholm, Dublin, and Cologne. There's Paris, of course,...

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

I still wonder what the utility of this is...? Could they drop MDW to help MCI or shift both to 3x daily to STL? https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2018/10/10/lambert-airports-wish-list-the-nonstops-needed.html STL is pushing for IND service I can't read the article. Can you quote the section...

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... eeded.html

STL is pushing for IND service
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SumChristianus wrote:
I still wonder what the utility of this is...? Could they drop MDW to help MCI or shift both to 3x daily to STL?

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... eeded.html

STL is pushing for IND service

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Btw it was posted somewhere not long ago (news story maybe?) that CDG would be daily starting April 1st. I keep hearing this referenced, but I can't seem to find this source? Anyone know? Great news if it is true The IND Flight Attendant base will re-open April 1st, after a temp closing at the end ...

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14569

Re: WW ending STL

Certainly does not look good for STL's TATL ambitions, considering WW characterized it as a disappointment.

The demand is there it is just a matter of getting BA to bite.

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Indy wrote:
Btw it was posted somewhere not long ago (news story maybe?) that CDG would be daily starting April 1st.


I keep hearing this referenced, but I can't seem to find this source? Anyone know?

Great news if it is true

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

If the front of the plan on the 767 is nearly full as I had seen said, why not get a bigger plane if they can fill it? Or add frequencies???? That’s my question The front is nearly full nearly all the time - the back not so much. Only answer to that (involving the aircraft) would be creating some h...

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

"Service will be operated on Boeing 767-300 or similar aircraft; provided, however, Delta reserves the right to substitute aircraft for operational reasons, in accordance with Section 2 of this Agreement." Does this mean they have to use at least the 226 configuration, or can they use the...

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by Midwestindy
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

I think the real interesting thing is this: "EXHIBIT A Scheduled Service between IND and CDG  June through August: 7 days/week  September through October: 5 days/week  November through December: 4 days/week  January through March: 3 days/week  April through May: 5 days/week" IND-CDG i...

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by Midwestindy
Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14569

Re: WW ending STL (for now)

Except when it involves CLE. Then you start a WW/FI thread which implies both airlines are closing up shop permanently within days of each other even though FI has a hard restart date in March. What did I miss? :D Both leaving is a bigger deal because let’s be honest, two carriers to Iceland is too...

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by Midwestindy
Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1879
Views: 108088

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

an international flight always generates more revenue for the airport. This is false an international flight does not always generate more profit, airport fees are usually based on the weight of the aircraft and the number of passengers onboard. For example, a CRJ to YUL is not going to generate mo...

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by Midwestindy
Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is Deltas plan for CLT?
Replies: 68
Views: 8006

Re: What is Deltas plan for CLT?

I think with that many gates, it will become a focus city/ small crew base. People in Charlotte would benefit from another carrier other than AA. And many more travelers prefer Delta over AA. Also- SO MANY people from the Charlotte area go back and forth from the ATL area on a daily basis. With tha...

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by Midwestindy
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

DL is starting the Atmosphere cabin on Dec 3rd now instead of next year Also some of the IND-RSW flights are already sold out for this winter so that is encouraging Judging how DL's IND-MCO flights are doing, I wonder what the next step is. They obviously won't deploy anything larger than a 739 (so...

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by Midwestindy
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

DL is starting the Atmosphere cabin on Dec 3rd now instead of next year

Also some of the IND-RSW flights are already sold out for this winter so that is encouraging

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by Midwestindy
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

A321/B752/B739 all have 20 F seats and the CR9/E75 have only 12 F seats. Currently, they are running the B739 on the route and it isn't RON so maintenance isn't the reason. I think AAR is done with the 757 work though I meant that they could get a higher load factor and a greater F ration if they u...

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by Midwestindy
Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

IND-DTW is low because DL uses large, high F capacity aircraft to serve the route. For July they ran the B752 on the route, in May they were running the A321, and in October they are currently using the B739. I have no idea why they do that, but I know the route carries a lot of DL Medallions and i...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Sorry, were these August numbers? DL IND-SLC-90.1%; SLC-IND-91.0% (B738) Maybe this could get A321 some time or go 2x daily? UA IND-DEN-94.7%; DEN-IND-94.6% DEN is always "crazy" full, it should go 4x daily with 2x mainline at least. WN IND-MCI-71.5%, MCI-IND-70.0% Is this one in trouble?...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

DL has been subbing in their High Economy Comfort configuration of the 767 pretty frequently which likely means the they are receiving a decent amount of DL medallions/upgrades on this flight. My assumption is that DL is making a large chunk of their money on the Premium Cabin (J and Y+), as I pric...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta’s new A220 narrowbody coming on sale for January debut
Replies: 98
Views: 14582

Delta’s new A220 narrowbody coming on sale for January debut

https://mailchi.mp/delta/rngf378qec?e=f4e0a3c226 The next era of air travel starts S​aturday with Delta selling top domestic business routes on the new A220-100 aircraft, a state-of-the-art narrowbody jet with all the amenities and luxury of a widebody aircraft. Inaugural A220 flights are set to dep...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

https://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/tsa-officials-prepare-for-busy-weekend-at-indy-airport/1518813522 "TSA officials at the airport expect Friday could be the second busiest day of travel in airport history. The record day of travel was on Feb. 6, 2012 after Super Bowl XLVI." Wow.....ye...

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by Midwestindy
Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1591
Views: 130829

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

I’ve noticed that CVG-LAX is now operating on the 739 at least 1x per day. To be fair, CVG-LAX is also going from 38 departures in Dec '17 (B738) to 31 departures in Dec '18 (B738). I'm still seeing 38 departures for Dec '18. Mostly it is upguages within aircraft the types: 738-->739, CRJ-->CR9, M8...

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by Midwestindy
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1591
Views: 130829

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

DL has made lots of last minute upgrades for Oct/Nov/Dec at CVG. This should help recover some passenger growth lost due to F9/G4's reductions and cutting MKE/BNA/XNA. What upgrades did they make? I’ve noticed that CVG-LAX is now operating on the 739 at least 1x per day. To be fair, CVG-LAX is also...

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by Midwestindy
Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2065
Views: 122225

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

DL has been subbing in their High Economy Comfort configuration of the 767 pretty frequently which likely means the they are receiving a decent amount of DL medallions/upgrades on this flight. My assumption is that DL is making a large chunk of their money on the Premium Cabin (J and Y+), as I price...

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