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by Taxi645
Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Foreign troops in a country against its will is ok, but if it is on request of the country its not ok. Yeah, makes sense.

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by Taxi645
Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

When the frog was being boiled Ukraine was making progress. It seems the frog is no longer being boiled (sufficiently).

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by Taxi645
Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74356

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

A350neo EIS is at least 10 years out. I would expect the sales life of an WB to be at least 20 years. Which in the case of the A350 is from 2015 to 2035. And both manufacturers are selling enough to keep the lines humming for a while. As long there is no engine that improves efficiency by 15-20% no...

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by Taxi645
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74356

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

With ultrafan in a few years one could image: A350-800NEO: 64,3m 268t MTOW A350-900NEO 70,8m (same as freighter) 283t MTOW A350-1000NEO 76,5m 322t MTOW All with plenty of payload/range and very good CASM. The A350-800NEO making the A330NEO redundant. The TSFC making a higher than 322t MTOW unnecess...

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by Taxi645
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74356

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

With ultrafan in a few years one could image: A350-800NEO: 64,3m 268t MTOW A350-900NEO 70,8m (same as freighter) 283t MTOW A350-1000NEO 76,5m 322t MTOW All with plenty of payload/range and very good CASM. The A350-800NEO making the A330NEO redundant. The TSFC making a higher than 322t MTOW unnecessa...

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by Taxi645
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:00 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Sweden considering sending 16 to 18 Gripen jets to Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/sep/12/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-kim-jong-un-putin-talks-weapons-ukraine-oil-rigs?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-65004e9a8f0893e8a8a014d7#block-65004e9a8f0893e8a8a014d7 Rather a y...

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by Taxi645
Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus: No A350 Stretch In The Next 3 Years
Replies: 219
Views: 37524

Re: Airbus: No A350 Stretch In The Next 3 Years

In my opinion any change in the A350 current length's will coincide with the introduction of a next generation engine. The A350 is already so capable that any extra range from improved SFC will mostly be waisted. Better to balance that SFC range improvement with a range reduction due to a limited st...

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by Taxi645
Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/rheinmetall-talks-building-tank-factory-ukraine-report-2023-03-04/ Rheinmetall in talks on building tank factory in Ukraine Could make sense, Ukraine getting the KF51, the next generation of the Leopard 2 design. At the same time Europe could focus ...

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by Taxi645
Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce CEO paints a bleak picture and Airbus rules nothing out
Replies: 91
Views: 23309

Re: Rolls Royce CEO paints a bleak picture and Airbus rules nothing out

Elephant in the room; No narrow body engine... Hamilton calls it out at the end of the article... The narrowbody market represents at any given time about 85% of the sales by Airbus (and Boeing). Giving up its share of this sector was arguably one of the dumbest decisions Rolls-Royce could make. Ye...

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by Taxi645
Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce CEO paints a bleak picture and Airbus rules nothing out
Replies: 91
Views: 23309

Re: Rolls Royce CEO paints a bleak picture and Airbus rules nothing out

Elephant in the room; No narrow body engine...

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by Taxi645
Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

For the Ukraine it would be much more helpful to have only the Leo2 send to the them, while the extra M1's, Challenger 2's and Leclerc would serve as reserves to cover the gap the Leo2's leave behind. Guess it "easier" to have Ukraine deal with that mess in an actual war than to have to co...

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by Taxi645
Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:12 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

I wonder if the the whole Leopard 2 saga is not linked to industrial considerations as well. I could imagine that allowing meaningful quantities of Europe's pool of Leo 2's to go to Ukraine (and I reckon if you open that can of worms you must consider the possibility that it could become meaningful ...

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by Taxi645
Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Battle tanks from German industrial reserves wanted by Ukraine will not be ready to be delivered until 2024, the arms manufacturer Rheinmetall has warned, dampening Kyiv’s hopes that the UK’s promise to deliver Challenger 2 tanks would encourage other European nations to swiftly follow suit. “Even ...

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by Taxi645
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

.However, I believe in order to achieve long term stability, you would need something like the Western Allies did in Germany in the 1940s - get the old regieme completely removed and get new democratic people on board. It worked in Germany then, it worked in Japan. I guess a democratic Russia could...

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by Taxi645
Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

One would think that a nation that would use a nuclear device first or would threaten to do so could not possibly be a permanent of the UN security council at the same time. Oh well...

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by Taxi645
Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Over the long haul I expect the European Union to be the main contributor to the rebuilding of Ukraine in any case on various levels, but the perpetrator of the invasion must pay at least some material price for this criminal act! It would seem likely that if Russia loses the war renewed oil gas co...

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by Taxi645
Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:40 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Over the long haul I expect the European Union to be the main contributor to the rebuilding of Ukraine in any case on various levels, but the perpetrator of the invasion must pay at least some material price for this criminal act! It would seem likely that if Russia loses the war renewed oil gas co...

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by Taxi645
Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Over the long haul I expect the European Union to be the main contributor to the rebuilding of Ukraine in any case on various levels, but the perpetrator of the invasion must pay at least some material price for this criminal act! It would seem likely that if Russia loses the war renewed oil gas co...

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by Taxi645
Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: [CNN interview 12/8] Emirates wants Airbus to build a new version of A380
Replies: 237
Views: 46316

Re: [CNN interview 12/8] Emirates wants Airbus to build a new version of A380

I wouldn't be surprised if it were a Boeing-Airbus joint effort as was originally planned for the A380. But count me sceptical. Do you have a source that the A380 was originally a Boeing-Airbus joint effort? Given that Boeing had the 747 and 777 at the time, I don’t see how they’d want to get invol...

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by Taxi645
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: [CNN interview 12/8] Emirates wants Airbus to build a new version of A380
Replies: 237
Views: 46316

Re: [CNN interview 12/8] Emirates wants Airbus to build a new version of A380

It all depends on how the market will develop long term. It won't be long till environmental costs will be incorporated into the ticket price in aviation as well. All stakeholders will want to wait what that'll do with the market. If, and that's a big if, the market would still be growing and needin...

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by Taxi645
Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:45 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507548

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEpxX7rS5I
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For a more in depth look of what going in regards to artillery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMEpxX7rS5I

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by Taxi645
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus reshapes A350 cabin to better accommodate 10 abreast
Replies: 347
Views: 82856

Re: Airbus reshapes A350 cabin to better accommodate 10 abreast

https://leehamnews.com/2015/09/04/bjorns-corner-the-seating-dilemma/ Aircraft manufacturers should not be allowed to get away with communicating seat width in stead of “seating width”. Any aviation site, blog, forum or whatever should blast any manufacturer or airline who tries to get away with the...

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by Taxi645
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus reshapes A350 cabin to better accommodate 10 abreast
Replies: 347
Views: 82856

Re: Airbus reshapes A350 cabin to better accommodate 10 abreast

https://leehamnews.com/2015/09/04/bjorns-corner-the-seating-dilemma/ Aircraft manufacturers should not be allowed to get away with communicating seat width in stead of “seating width”. Any aviation site, blog, forum or whatever should blast any manufacturer or airline who tries to get away with the ...

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by Taxi645
Wed May 25, 2022 6:15 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Modern single aisle aircraft specs & comparisons, scores; Flies NB Scrapbook©
Replies: 23
Views: 8552

Re: Modern single aisle aircraft specs & comparisons, scores; Flies NB Scrapbook©

On container / pallet options, the A320, C919 and MS21 have it. AKH is the defacto standard in Europe and Asia. Asian airlines warned Boeing not having it on an NMA, is a no go for them. I think it is highly likely it will be an option on any new Boeing NSA/NMA. It's always been an burden on the 73...

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by Taxi645
Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

Some times it is ok to leave a bit of the market to your competitor. New wing, wingbox on 787 would have been so much effort to gain just 300 more orders? Not, sure that makes business sense. I think your estimate of about 300 additional sales compared to the 77X is quite close to the mark. However...

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by Taxi645
Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

at this point in time Boeing as a company would be better served by a MTOW increase and a larger wing for the 787-10 and top of that a further enforced wingbox for a 290-300T 787-11 and 787-10F than continuing down the 77X path. Airlines will prefer the superior CASM to capacity ratio and on top of...

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by Taxi645
Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

Apart from the competition of a potential A350NEO, as is known a larger air plane needs a sufficient CASM advantage over smaller competition. The CASM advantage over even the current 787-9/10 and A350-900 is too small, let alone updated versions of it. Also a 290-300T 787-11 would for most airlines ...

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by Taxi645
Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

I'd foresee more of a renaissance of the ME3 due to new oil and gas wealth. The western world turning away from Russia means it will return to the Middle East driving prices and budgets of middle eastern airlines. They will have all the money to buy the latest and greatest stuff and expand airports...

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by Taxi645
Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

To me it feels a bit similar to the position Airbus was in with the A340-500/600 a while back. You went down the wrong lane, but how do you justify so much money, resources and effort put in for nothing when you cancel it? Mostly you don't, you just keep going and hope for the best. At that same st...

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by Taxi645
Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

I've said before, the 77X bet was, in hind sight (also due to MCAS and COVID), probably the wrong gamble: 1 There is too little time left between it's launch and that of a potential A350NEO (where it can't really effectively compete with), to make any return on investment. 2 It is withholding the f...

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by Taxi645
Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124726

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

I've said before, the 77X bet was, in hind sight (also due to MCAS and COVID), probably the wrong gamble: 1 There is too little time left between it's launch and that of a potential A350NEO (where it can't really effectively compete with), to make any return on investment. 2 It is withholding the fu...

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by Taxi645
Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Analyzing The Airbus A380’s Premature End
Replies: 226
Views: 78591

Re: Analyzing The Airbus A380’s Premature End

I have a question regarding fuselage width' relation to induced drag. If you widen a fuselage within a fixed span as Matt has done in his proposal, one would expect a negative effect on induced drag as less span is left for the wing itself. So more lift is created from a shorter wing (the added lift...

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by Taxi645
Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Analyzing The Airbus A380’s Premature End
Replies: 226
Views: 78591

Re: Analyzing The Airbus A380’s Premature End

I did some calculations on how the A380 would have performed with nominal 787 engines. For this I ran my model with the A380 with standard engines rated with cruise SFC of 0.525lb/hr/lb over a near spec range flight. Then the SFC was dropped to 0.5 to represent a 787 technology level engine. Finall...

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by Taxi645
Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 477
Views: 124952

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

What would it take to get Airbus to pull the trigger on the 500 program? How many aircraft orders & how much money in the way of deposits would it take to get things rolling? I think, ideally, Airbus would like to hold off the 500 as long as possible (despite of outspoken demand) until producti...

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by Taxi645
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:08 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Lockheed reveals new LMXT refueling tanker
Replies: 403
Views: 73392

Re: Lockheed reveals new LMXT refueling tanker

Well recent events might have brought the US and EU closer on the milifary and geopolitical front again. Airbus tanker and some A400M's for the US and new strategic transport from the US for the EU. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1467371 Efficiency in scale and R&D and ...

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by Taxi645
Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus pushed for A220-500, replacing A320CEO / 737-800.. ?
Replies: 330
Views: 71524

Re: Airbus pushed for A220-500, replacing A320CEO / 737-800.. ?

IMHO, Airbus bought the CS Series to make sure neither Boeing nor the Chinese got it. One can view the continuing stream of losses on the A220 as insurance premiums: the A320 family is protected from threats below (in seat count). If you can't built enough planes to fullfil demand and you are selli...

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by Taxi645
Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028
Replies: 155
Views: 34895

Re: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028

This fuselage design with the lowered floor will, within the same wetted area of the A320 series, have an aisle wide enough (with 737 wide seats) to pass each other for very fast boarding. Thanks for an excellent post, Taxi645. I also think this (with your specifications) could be a good way forwar...

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by Taxi645
Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028
Replies: 155
Views: 34895

Re: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028

I'll shamelessly continue to promote the wide single aisle proposal. Just wanted to say Keesje much earlier did work out a wider single aisle proposal. The difference is this uses the extra width of a circular fuselage (like the MC21) but a lower floor to get to the required width for a passing ais...

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by Taxi645
Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028
Replies: 155
Views: 34895

Re: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028

I'll shamelessly continue to promote the wide single aisle proposal. Just wanted to say Keesje much earlier did work out a wider single aisle proposal. The difference is this uses the extra width of a circular fuselage (like the MC21) but a lower floor to get to the required width for a passing aisl...

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by Taxi645
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028
Replies: 155
Views: 34895

Re: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028

I'm hoping for a small widebody as well just so its something new and interesting. This article is just speculation. The funny thing is that at about 29" in aisle width a SA of the same capacity takes up the same floor space as 2 at 17-18" as it would be shorter at 7W (16.66% more seats p...

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by Taxi645
Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 477
Views: 124952

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

I suspect we are in between two rates announcements. The last announced rate target was 14/months. I expect an updated rate announcement perhaps this year already. Perhaps along with a A220-500 launch, but not necessarily. As you say even without the 500 the rate is becoming the bottleneck. But the...

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by Taxi645
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028
Replies: 155
Views: 34895

Re: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028

I would suspect something along these line: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1465935#p23056031 With choice between a passing aisle mainly for the shoter range version and wider seats for the longer range. Something Airbus can't offer with the A320. Your proposed cross section...

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by Taxi645
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 477
Views: 124952

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

I didn't even have JetBlue on my radar as a possible order (this makes the 2nd 2022 A220 successful sales campaign that blindsided me). To think, I thought the excitement would start with the summer airshow. This year is Farnborough: https://www.farnboroughairshow.com/fia2022/ Let's see the leasing...

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by Taxi645
Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 477
Views: 124952

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

lightsaber wrote:
After in service data, they have bought 30 more A223s. That is a great indicator. It gives creadance to the hope of top off orders from other A220 operators.
Lightsaber


Not only that. It gives airlines that are considering the A220 reason to take another good look.

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by Taxi645
Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028
Replies: 155
Views: 34895

Re: Leeham: NBA single aisle 2023/24 launch EIS 2028

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1465935#p23056031

With choice between a passing aisle mainly for the shoter range version and wider seats for the longer range. Something Airbus can't offer with the A320.
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I would suspect something along these line:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1465935#p23056031

With choice between a passing aisle mainly for the shoter range version and wider seats for the longer range. Something Airbus can't offer with the A320.

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by Taxi645
Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Discussion on Potential 777XF Specs
Replies: 489
Views: 61246

Re: Discussion on Potential 777XF Specs

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456489&p=22594551
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Well, seemed they went a bit longer on the 8 afterall:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456489&p=22594551

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by Taxi645
Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Airbus and Quebec invest a further $1.2B in the A220 program
Replies: 145
Views: 26465

Re: A220 Program Seeks Further Taxpayer Investment

Well I suppose some peoples enthusiasm for the A220 needs to be counter balanced....

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by Taxi645
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing confirms higher gross weight 787-10
Replies: 401
Views: 79760

Re: Boeing confirms higher gross weight 787-10

Well - you still haven't explained why the Ultrafan would be 350 only, other than Airbus would finance it. Effectively that would mean Rolls is forgoing any future 787 orders. That's a big thing to give up. The deal would be; in return for Airbus assistance in finance they would get a few years (4-...

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by Taxi645
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 477
Views: 124952

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

Something I haven't seen discussed in this or last years sales campaign thread is sales price. The notion seems to be that currently Airbus is losing money on every A220 sold and only after production has sufficiently increased in efficiency the start making a profit on each sales. Airbus currently ...

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by Taxi645
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing and Airbus slowly gravitating towards single cross-section WB product ranges?
Replies: 51
Views: 10168

Re: Boeing and Airbus slowly gravitating towards single cross-section WB product ranges?

There's a very big problem with moving towards such simplified fleets. That being: what happens if a type gets grounded? Fleet simplification improves economics, but in a worst case scenario, it could result in the long term grounding of a substantial segment of a fleet. Diversification allows airl...

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