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by vadodara
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Subsidized ME3 will flood up the market like anything. I think u meant legacy American airline (DL). In anycase, you seem to be stealing DL's line here. Few legacy EU carriers might fold and whine like DL. (Due to extreme competition not lack of premium pax) Then the larger point is, an Air India, ...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

So if AIATSL and AIESL close shop at a loss-guaranteed small remote airport with one daily subsidized Indigo's UDAN flight, who will operate that airport? Swissport, Menzies, Bird Group, SATS, dnata and AirWorks, Lufthansa Technic, HAECO??? My point has been very simple. If you think the AI employe...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

BTW, I am not from Surat and this statement 30% of BOM traffic is from Surat is rather modest. If you have the data, why dont you share what the true #'s are of the traffic origin's for BOM. So you think that 30% BOM traffic i.e 16 million pax last year traveled from Surat to CSIA. Why didn't any t...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

I am really bad at decoding stuff, can anyone tell me wtf is WWWWWWWAS? Precisely WWWAS is We Work for Working Airport at Surat. Rest info Bunch of Surat fanboys who think 30% of BOM traffic is from Surat and thus spam airlines fb pages asking for flights. They are scared of turboprops . You are en...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

And, although this thread has gotten 11 pages of responses so far, the question in the title of "What next" is quite easily answered. Regardless what all the aviation consultancies et al. claim and say, it is clear that AI is not going anywhere in the short- to medium-term. GOI is steppin...

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by vadodara
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

For one thing, the people backing EK don't have to answer to voters. Besides, it doesn't matter what they do in Dubai. Whatever they do, wouldn't save AI, so there is no use comparing them. EK is also integral to the Dubai economy. People come visit, take stopovers, spend money on stuff etc. not to...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

Thanks for coming out. BTW math is not your forte. The so-called preachers on this thread want AI to shut down ops so EK can get more BASAs and pick up more traffic, will help a great deal for an airline literally and virtually parked 45 WBs. 6E can pickup BOM/DEL slots and crew Real estate agents ...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

No one knows what their demands are. Later they might even demand a badi chidiya (a330) from indigo. :lol: That's for Naresh Goyal's ego! Chaar Engine wali chidiya (A340). Please explain how you relate my post with yours. BTW once again you're confused. Chaar engine waali chidiya was Vijay Mallya's...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

Right, Times Group says so. There is no bankruptcy for federally guaranteed government entities, just like USPS cannot file for bankruptcy. AI in business Revenue $3.4 Billion Debt servicing - $1.36 Billion (40% of Revenue) Fuel - $1.36 Billion (40% of Revenue) Staff Cost $ 408 Million (12 % of Rev...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

Few myths need to be busted. Bankruptcy is not an option for sovereign entities, even US chapter 9 is limited to municipalities. I wouldn’t want people to be confused. Bankruptcy is an option for Air India. Indian law allows this. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/opinion/et-view/et-...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

binayak wrote:
dtw2hyd wrote:
binayak wrote:
WWWAS must be delighted.


As long as the 6E equipment is not Fan Wali Chidiya.

No one knows what their demands are. Later they might even demand a badi chidiya (a330) from indigo. :lol:


That's for Naresh Goyal's ego! Chaar Engine wali chidiya (A340).

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Seems like IndiGo will start flights from Surat soon. STV shows up on the 6E website with flights to BLR/MAA/JAI/DEL/BOM/CCU So many destination at once. Aggressive capacity dumping I see. WWWAS (or whatever they are) must be delighted. The hilarious thing of these WWWAS guys are that they are TRYI...

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

If AI Express can get a buyer, put that on block. Or go for an IPO. If sold separately. If the GoI insists on all or nothing, I believe the sale will again fail and everything goes down together. Lightsaber Unions are a big issue; issue is what to do with the excess staff. If AI Express i.e. planes...

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

If AI Express can get a buyer, put that on block. Or go for an IPO.

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Indigo is certainly betting that infra is going to be limited for a while. Better to squat on the slots.

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

binayak wrote:
unrave wrote:
Isn't Milan the financial hub of Italy? Then it makes sense for boom in traffic from BOM

I think in this case the boom is more due to tourism than any business traffic.


I would be very curious as how there is tourist flow between Milan and Bombay.

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: India, China in talks for closer air connectivity
Replies: 35
Views: 2044

Re: India, China in talks for closer air connectivity

Better for Indian carriers to focus on Taipei, Hong Kong and interior Chinese cities.

Chinese govt. will continue to be protecionist for a long time; expecting an equitable outcome is someone’s pipe dream.

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

Someone thinks it is important that AI maintain DEL hub. Great!

Retain that and sell other non-coreroutes/slots starting with BOM.

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by vadodara
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What if? DFW never built; Joint AUS/SAT airport
Replies: 25
Views: 995

Re: What if? DFW never built; Joint AUS/SAT airport

What if DFW was never built? I know Dallas has kept their airport DAL but what if Dallas and Fort Worth kept separate airports open like the Austin/San Antonio region currently has AUS/SAT? Good things happen when led by visionaries. Eric Jonsonn, former Texas Instruments CEO and then Dallas Mayor ...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

Indian tax payers pay on average $230M to AI and get back $600 Million every year. Shutdown AI, both will go. So let's do it! Malik is resting after out-of-sequence transplant, give some time, he will shut it down AI as soon as he recovers. So we finally have an agreement! Govt. should step out and...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

dtw2hyd wrote:
Whatsapp University, Saraswati Vidya Mandir or Khilji's Education Academy comprehension skills???


Hyderebad based, Satyam University!

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

dtw2hyd wrote:
Indian tax payers pay on average $230M to AI and get back $600 Million every year. Shutdown AI, both will go.


So let's do it!

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

In 12 years AI got $3.3Billion ie., on average $230 Million per year. AI paying $500-$600 Million every year.as taxes, duties, interest to PSBs. back to GoI DTW at his best again. AI is not 'IT' industry. It has to pay its taxes and excise duties like other industries. AI is no longer a 'govt.' dep...

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

This discussion on Air India is essentially becoming irrelevant. Latest numbers from AAI for April 2018 Traffic. This is the growth story. Cities like Indore, Ranchi, Raipur, Agartala, Udaipur, Bhopal, Leh, Surat, Silichar all posting >30% growth. Air India probably has close to zero contribution to...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

But eventually what happens from here on with regards to Air India will finally be decided by four of Modi’s trusted ministers - Arun Jaitley, Suresh Prabhu, Nitin Gadkari and Piyush Goyal. The quartet forms a group called Air India Specific Alternate Mechanism (AISAM), which will take a call on th...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

But eventually what happens from here on with regards to Air India will finally be decided by four of Modi’s trusted ministers - Arun Jaitley, Suresh Prabhu, Nitin Gadkari and Piyush Goyal. The quartet forms a group called Air India Specific Alternate Mechanism (AISAM), which will take a call on th...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

.. In the past, things and people like Modi, Jaitley and so forth have also been blamed. What stopped the duo from giving it away? It will cost same $8B to sell or shutdown it down. Did they get a call from Steve Bannon of India? Air India unions claim 'victory' on govt's failure to attract bids MU...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

dtw2hyd wrote:
vadodara wrote:
.. In the past, things and people like Modi, Jaitley and so forth have also been blamed.


What stopped the duo from giving it away? It will cost same $8B to sell or shutdown it down. Did they get a call from Steve Bannon of India?


They thought you were in charge of the road-show.

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by vadodara
Thu May 31, 2018 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?

Late edit:. I don't understand the comments on EK. They are profitable and have audited results. I would like quarterly data though. The reality is that EK pax to/from India has been capped long enough that they are no longer the boggyman. DXB is pretty maxed out anyway. EK won't grow significantly...

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by vadodara
Thu May 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale? What next?

Guarantees of loans is definitively a subsidy. Withholding of international flight rights is an indirect subsidy. .... As long as all losses are covered, they are a subsidy. It is time to stop pretending. Unless AI goes to quarterly reporting that is audited, we all know this will continue. Since t...

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by vadodara
Thu May 31, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale? What next?

Out of curiosity, what happens to the GoI bond ratings if the 3.3% maximum deficit target is missed? This has implications far beyond aviation... Lightsaber AI is but a very small piece in this puzzle. AI is not the only govt owned company that is completely screwed up. In fact, except for some pri...

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by vadodara
Thu May 31, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019
Replies: 380
Views: 36594

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

LAX772LR wrote:
vadodara wrote:
DL has had trouble sustaining flights from non-DL hubs to CDG.

PIT, RDU, and BOS might disagree... and DL just decided to start IND-CDG, so they can't be that gun-shy.


Let em have a go! JFK-DEL non-stop!

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by vadodara
Wed May 30, 2018 9:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale? What next?

The banks are going thru house-cleaning. Many a chrony has found their enterprise on the chopping block. Some may argue that these were Congress cronies. Either way, the law is in effect and this is happening under its power. Air India was not even a corporation, after nationalization, but an extens...

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by vadodara
Wed May 30, 2018 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019
Replies: 380
Views: 36594

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

Plus jet has in recent times lost quite a few Delhi based FFs to vistara i e 9W's position at DEL has weakened. Competition in play; can only be good for the consumer. Best according to me will be DL must start with JFK BOM and if in 3-4 years, demand rises then DL/9W can do ATL BOM also. 9W will b...

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by vadodara
Tue May 29, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-Failed sale. What next?
Replies: 535
Views: 38867

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?

Is there any new information? Must we accept this is a failed sale? Obviously, I am not in the know. However, it appears, that there is too much 'fuzzy' accounting that would be buyers feel the bidding for AI for its available slots may not be worth the trouble. The employees, unless a flying knigh...

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by vadodara
Tue May 29, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019
Replies: 380
Views: 36594

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

JFK-BOM offers 1-stop options to lots of markets. e.g. likes of PIT, CLE and so forth connecting thru the DL JFK hub. Similarly, likes of secondary cities in India that do not have ME3 flights. This is in addition to the fact that NY city constitutes the largest aviation market and BOM as one of the...

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by vadodara
Mon May 28, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Has Indian Aviation Evolved in Recent Decades?
Replies: 38
Views: 2590

Re: How Has Indian Aviation Evolved in Recent Decades?

Aviation in India started out as a hobby for JRD Tata followed by every regional kingdom of significance investing in their own airstrip as well as airline. In 60’s this gradually evolved into Air India International and sundry private airlines operating several routes. Eventually AI got nationalize...

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by vadodara
Mon May 28, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019
Replies: 380
Views: 36594

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

I get why UA is successful on EWR-BOM without having connections on the BOM end (EWR is a strong hub and EWR-BOM has strong O&D on both ends). If you believe JFK is a weaker hub for DL than EWR is for UA, ATL might be the origin for the flight. I would say what is missing from India-US flight o...

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by vadodara
Mon May 14, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Looking at the map, Dholera looks like a small town almost equidistant from Bhavnagar, Baroda and Ahmedabad. What's the rationale behind placing an international airport there? Your question has most of your answer. I will take liberty to supplement a few more cities: Anand/Nadiad (~70 km), Rajkot ...

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by vadodara
Mon May 14, 2018 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Looking at the map, Dholera looks like a small town almost equidistant from Bhavnagar, Baroda and Ahmedabad. What's the rationale behind placing an international airport there? Your question has most of your answer. I will take liberty to supplement a few more cities: Anand/Nadiad (~70 km), Rajkot ...

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by vadodara
Mon May 14, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Dholera airport ground-breaking this year Work on the international airport at Dholera, about 100 km from Ahmedabad, is set to commence soon with a senior government official saying on Friday that groundbreaking ceremony of the proposed project is likely to take place this year itself. "All ap...

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by vadodara
Sun May 13, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)
Replies: 418
Views: 23572

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Interesting that they threw their hat in the ring starting with STV. Make's sense since it is underserved. Shaping up for a future Air Asia/Spice Jet battle. An AMD local newspaper said about a month ago that Indigo will start ops with 4 flights from STV, just as soon as it gets more NEOs. Surat is...

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by vadodara
Fri May 11, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

Not really due to QR's close proximity to India. WOW is not going to get Europe - India traffic or USA - Southeast Asia traffic. As I mentioned, QR can fly narrow bodies to multiple Indian cities. Since the bilaterals are restricted, rumor of QR starting an airline in India. Imagine that will essen...

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by vadodara
Thu May 10, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

We have a similar problem here in Berlin. The capital city of the largest economy in Europe, Germany and yet Lufthansa aircraft don't fly internationally from it! Everything short haul is done through the Group's partners, everything longhaul goes through Munich and Frankfurt. By giving folks in Be...

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by vadodara
Thu May 10, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

And I mistook you for a 'hub' wallah! Yes I am, but I don't like passengers unnecessary herded through a hub when there is enough traffic to justify direct/non-stop. I am sure there are passengers forced to connect through DTW like millions connect through ATL. But no one is forced to fly through a...

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by vadodara
Thu May 10, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

Yes they are and will be... Unfortunately, one of the partners (AF) is increasingly looking like an endangered species! Lets see how does their "Joon" work in India. BTW the last time i checked many flights during June of Joon (BOM CDG) are fully sold in Y and the fares of the few remaini...

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by vadodara
Thu May 10, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

... Someone flying from Detroit to to somewhere regional in India won't be too attracted by a cheap flight to the capital city 3000 km away... No, I will continue to pay $300-$500(DTW-HYD $1300-$1700 for RT) more so the hub dwellers in both countries (JFK,ORD,DEL,BOM) can enjoy cheap and shortest f...

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by vadodara
Wed May 09, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

Tickets to India are as low as 700 bucks from them North America on QR. I bet people rather fly on QR Vs WOW. Unless you just have carry on, and the ticket only 300 bucks. Probably true for the likes of JFK, ORD, LAX and such. But unless QR is planning to add airports like CLE, PIT, CVG and so fort...

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by vadodara
Wed May 09, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

binayak wrote:
vadodara wrote:
Another LCC joining the fray! Are the 'full-service' guys still around?

Yes they are and will be...


Unfortunately, one of the partners (AF) is increasingly looking like an endangered species!

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by vadodara
Wed May 09, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15610

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

Tickets to India are as low as 700 bucks from them North America on QR. I bet people rather fly on QR Vs WOW. Unless you just have carry on, and the ticket only 300 bucks. Probably true for the likes of JFK, ORD, LAX and such. But unless QR is planning to add airports like CLE, PIT, CVG and so fort...

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