It also seems there may be additional PIPs with the GP7200, whereas RR won't be doing any more on the T900. Why would they? The last PIP was more work and less gain than planned. Seems that the well has gone dry. Earlier GP also said they had no interest in investing more into GP7200, but perhaps t...Jump to post
EK will seek to tie the latest A380 engine deal to the 787 engine decision. Both possible suppliers can probably best be described as ambivalent to hanging more engines on A380's, for a tough customer with deep discount expectations. If EA participates, will probably see PW bought out by GE, becomi...Jump to post
Makes one wonder about the likelihood of seeing RR bid for future A380 NEO placement. Sure, they need a home for their new engine tech, but they also need a business case that works. It's not like RR is going to halt research and development going forward. If they want to stay relevant and on top o...Jump to post
Looks like the EA GP7200 may have a shot with the new order and stay in production afterall. Deal is expected to be firmed by Feb 15th. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-22/ge-engine-venture-may-oust-rolls-from-emirates-a380-contract And another deal expected to follow soon. I`m very ...Jump to post
It also seems there may be additional PIPs with the GP7200, whereas RR won't be doing any more on the T900.Jump to post
So the question is, what will get delivered first? The A350-100 or the 787-10! First A35K delivery is next month. So A35K. To be fair it was supposed to be delivered about 3 weeks ago. It was. There was some issue with the "Qsuite". https://www.reuters.com/article/qatar-airways-airbus-a35...Jump to post
Looks like the EA GP7200 may have a shot with the new order and stay in production afterall. Deal is expected to be firmed by Feb 15th.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... 0-contract
And another deal expected to follow soon.
hongkongflyer wrote:Just read an article today saying that BA has finally given up to take the 5 second hand 380 from MH and now in the process of considering the new build from Airbus.
WIederling wrote:Slug71 wrote:A380 plus + ... and new wingbox though.
Fuel savings were said to be around 4%. That may have included the re-twist of the wing and new wingbox though. I'm hoping the new EK order will at least include these improvements, but I doubt it will unless the T7000 or GEnx is certified. Might be beneficial for the second hand market.Jump to post
If a new engine is certified, can it also be used on current frames?Jump to post
http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pages/2017-10-24-01.aspx You know you are getting old when ..... You click on a link, read the headline, and your first thought is: "I wonder if I'll still be alive to see how accurate this forecast is" :) Ughh...no kidding. And time just seems to speed up...Jump to post
My suggestion is for a plug compatible CTi fan which will not offer more thrust, which the T900 has in abundance. But it will save weight to benefit EK, and get the technology well proven for the benefit of RR. The T900 is much lighter than either T XWB. Is there any benefit for RR? Can RR recover ...Jump to post
bmacleod wrote:Will these A380s be the new plus version?
I didn't see any mention in the article.....
TheRedBaron wrote:I am glad this order came through, I will make some second hand A380 a feasible risk for some carriers and maybe another 10 to 15 new orders from customers years from now with PIP progress implemented.... Great news!!!
It looks like Airbus made a bad bet with the A380, but had a lucky escape because Emirates essentially rescued them from the abyss. Now thanks to EK the program has a chance to survive a bit longer, hopefully long enough to get some orders from other airlines. It wasn't a bad bet. There is no way A...Jump to post
I think this order may even be cushion enough to keep production at 8 per year. I think if a NEO is going to happen, the announcement will be around 2022-2025. That will also be late enough into the Ultrafan's development cycle to begin a variant for the A380. People fly Emirates for the A380. Certa...Jump to post
People fly Emirates for the A380. Certainly the case here in the UK. Marketing power is huge. The A380 stands out and people talk about it. I've known people fly to Dubai partly to try out Emirates and the A380. No disrepect to anybody on this forum, but I've repeated the above many times but not m...Jump to post
I'm guessing the T900 will get the selection for engines, but i'm curious... IF EK were to choose between the T7000 or GEnx or (?), what is the rough cost of certifying a new engine on a type and how extensive is the certification program? Is it so costly/extensive that makes sense to add other smal...Jump to post
boom, the plane who all told is dead(me included) is more alive than ever. Good news for the A-380 but 20 firm orders and 16 options is hardly a "turned the corner" moment. It's enough to bridge the gap until a NEO. It's all Airbus and EK need for now. Assuming $200M each real sale price ...Jump to post
Just 36? I thought they were negotiating for a much larger number of aircraft. Or perhaps, I'm just used to Emirates ordering in the triple digits! At list prices this is "only" an US$ 16 billion order. :eek: Assuming $200M each real sale price ie., $100M for engines and $100M rest for 20...Jump to post
Has a passenger Im glad.. A380 have made getting good J class seats possible. Has a Aviation fan im stoked, I love the variety and even though she's not the pretty thing the 747 is its nice to see lined up at LAX. Has a Boeing fan im glad because A healthy Airbus is better for the industry. How doe...Jump to post
Well this is good news to wake up to! The engine selection will be interesting. I'm guessing they'll just stick with the T900 as the order isn't really big enough to justify the certification of the T7000 or GEnx. Same goes for any other improvements. Unless some or most of their current backlog get...Jump to post
Hopefully Zodiac will do better under SAFRAN.Jump to post
frigatebird wrote:ikolkyo wrote:I also feel EY will need to do some adjusting to their A350 and 788 orders, a lot of aircraft coming in...
Agreed, way too many aircraft on order. Deferrals/cancellations are unavoidable IMO.
You mean they want to do a 787MAX already? No. To my knowledge, EK has not yet chosen a engine supplier for their 787s. The problem imho is that there is no engine available that would be worth the effort, as the A380 engines are more modern than the A330CEO engines, so that the gap to the 787/A330...Jump to post
seahawk wrote:You mean they want to do a 787MAX already?
RR isn't doing particularly well financially - so all programmes need to be commercially viable. There are less than 150 A380s with Trent 900 engines - that makes further PIPs extremely expensive. Unless Airbus (and EK) can give RR some clarity with regards to future sales, how can RR justify devel...Jump to post
That might be your opinion of it, but to me EK snubbed RR recently when they intimated they might be prepared to go back to Engine Alliance for their next order. Rolls Royce had been working hard to re-secure Emirates as a client, and Tim Clark had stated that their future purchases would all be RR...Jump to post
I think the main error is that Airbus didnt forecast the markets correctly ..... - Passengers want direct flights from point to point and no the old wheel and spoke model airbus thought would still work - flight frequency is wanted .... and not less flights with a bigger plane - Still uses too much...Jump to post
The 779 will burn 4.8 cents of fuel per passenger seat mile versus the A388's 5.5 cents of fuel (yes, higher than the 777-300ER's 5.2 cents). Or, the 779 will have a 13% lower fuel cost per seat versus today's A388. Emirates has been demanding a 10% fuel burn improvement. The A380 saves money elsew...Jump to post
Since the USA is not the center of the universe and no USA carrier has bought the A380 why should their airports which are not government owned be accused of nationalism if they don't build un-needed facilities to accommodate the A380, after all, Airbus is on record stating that any airport that ca...Jump to post
Why is China not ordering more? I mean they have the traffic to fill it the airports to handle it and the money to buy it. So why not? The A380 is not suited for short-haul. If Airbus does decide to give the A380 a mid-life upgrade, a SR version with lower MTOW and smaller fuel tanks will hopefully...Jump to post
"And replace the rest of the A346s with A35Ks" => The A359 is replacing A346. The A35K would be better replacing the 744. But we are in agrement. I thought the A359s were only partially replacing the A346 with the 779 replacing the rest and the 744s? Yes that is the current plan. Even if ...Jump to post
Or convert into 787 -9 and -10 to replace 17 A343 then some of the 19 A333. But the 779 is close to the 748 as a replacement. Not the capacity of an A380 so. Their 748s and A380s have plenty of mileage left in them. It wouldn't surprise me if at least part of the order is converted to 787s though. ...Jump to post
I'd imagine LH will still take delivery of the 779s. They need to replace the 744s, and eventually the 748s and A380s. The 779 is the perfect bird to replace those Jumbo's. In addition, they already came out with a new business class seat that will debut on the 779. Probably, else there'd be penalt...Jump to post
G'day But Lufthansa has already ordered the 779 By the time Lufthansa were taking delivery of their first 747-8's they realized it was a dud. They had 747-8 commitments for 20 firm and 20 options and the easiest way to cancel the options was to order 779's instead. I doubt they would have selected ...Jump to post
While not "aviation grade", this article has a good summary of the current technologies being explored for future batteries. https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/130380-future-batteries-coming-soon-charge-in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air.amphtml A lot of advancement coming...Jump to post
Yeh I think it'll be hard getting a early release not being even half way through you commitment. I would definitely begin the leg work though. If there are any particular States you don't want to live in or you don't want to be stationed overseas, I'd probably lean more toward the Guard. If you don...Jump to post
The 777-9 is much larger than the A35J and there is very little incremental cost to operating the A35J for an airline that already operates the A359. So I think the chances at Lufthansa are pretty good. The 77W to 779 is only around 1 row of business and two rows of economy, hardly “much larger” Yo...Jump to post
Yup. And their fighters. Was really hoping the JV with SAFRAN would be a positive step forward. If the rumors are to be believed, Safran is the reason for the SSJ maintenance issues - ie, they are not manufacturing necessary replacement parts due to some arcane business reasons, and my understandin...Jump to post
Batteries are not an ideal source of power in an airplane. Where weight is a major contributor to cost. Energy density is not there. Not sure if it ever will given we have had 100 years of battery advancement and density has barely advanced over that time. Battery technology has vastly improved ove...Jump to post
I'm sure it will happen at some point. But that some point is still a very long ways away. I would think that at least the APU would still have to run on fuel though.
I think a quad (possibly VLA) with 2 electric hybrids may come first. But even that would still be a long ways away.
Maintenance has always been what's plagued Russian airliners, hasn't it? I hoped to see the trend die with the SSJ, but I guess the theme still stands. Hopefully Sukhoi can assist in getting this resolved soon. Yup. And their fighters. Was really hoping the JV with SAFRAN would be a positive step f...Jump to post
First A400M delivery of 2018, for the Luftwaffe.
https://twitter.com/AirbusDefence/statu ... 1794332672
I too have to question the 778 order. I like the type, but I think EY needs to cut their order. But to what? 779s or 787s? Lightsaber I wouldn't be surprised if they are looking to downsize their 777X order. They should scrap the 777X order altogether. Too many aircraft on order. The 778 is too nic...Jump to post
And just how do you expect to stick A350 windows into an A330 cockpit structure?!? While I admittedly know nothing when it comes to these things, It doesn't seem like a major change. Not trying to rag on you, but you have to realise that different size/shape/number of window panels means a very dif...Jump to post
I wonder where this leaves their order for 778. EY made terrible decisions but I always feel that, among the ME3, they are the least likely to allow pride, face and ego stop them from admitting their plans did not work and attempting to correct things. Some of you might disagree but that is how I s...Jump to post