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by DLHAM
Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 737-800 Loses Body Fairing In Flight
Replies: 128
Views: 19051

Re: UA 737-800 Loses Body Fairing In Flight

Hysteria, like this thread? Things like this happen everyday. Unfortunately it’s trendy to put the spotlight on them now. This panel is pretty much cosmetic. Losing it has zero effect on the control or stability of the A/C True, but any living thing on ground does not like parts falling from the sk...

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by DLHAM
Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian orders 8 777-9, options for 12 more
Replies: 56
Views: 8778

Re: Ethiopian orders 8 777-9, options for 12 more

Wow, this is surprising.. ET's 77Ws are 399 seats in a 9ab configuration.. Unless they plan on adding more premium seats the 779 will be north of 460 seats.. I wonder what destinations do they have in mind.. Additionally another customer that will operate the A35K and 779 together.. True, seems ano...

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by DLHAM
Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates announces DXB - MIA - BOG from 3 June 2024
Replies: 116
Views: 15447

Re: Emirates to launch DXB - MIA - BOG?

I wish them well on this route. I hope it doesn't flop the way PTY did. Or HAM-JFK for EK[/quote] I would not say that HAM-JFK "flopped", the reasons for the cancelations were much more complex than just bad load factors or profitability of this sector. I wish them well on this route. I h...

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by DLHAM
Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is the 787-10 failure or underestimated
Replies: 257
Views: 38896

Re: Is the 787-10 failure or underestimated

I can even see the 787-10 at Delta in a few years, replacing the A330ceo fleet. By the way the 787-10 already receives it's update, but it's just a slight MTOW bump, adding a few hundred nm of range. Nothing fancy enough to market it as an -ER. But a serious upgrade is still possible, look what Boei...

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by DLHAM
Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 334
Views: 15687

Re: Airbus A320neo Production / Deliveries - 2024

Turkish Airlines A321neo TC-LPC (D-AVXG) MSN11704, first test flight XFW-HAM-XFW as AIB704A (30 Jan) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53497325292_0b5f229ffe_6k.jpg Turkish Airlines A321neo D-AVXG TC-LPC MSN 11704 30.1.24 XFW by spottingatxfw , on Flickr Wow, first time I see one with Raccoon Mas...

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by DLHAM
Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How comes EasyJet uses jet bridges at Gatwick and some other airports?
Replies: 22
Views: 4374

Re: How comes EasyJet uses jet bridges at Gatwick and some other airports?

easyJet has always used Jet Bridges, or more precise: they have never not used Jet Bridges at all. However Ryanair, who normally never used jet Bridges, tends to use Jet Bridges more and more often, at least here in HAM. https://s20.directupload.net/images/user/240201/temp/4epsd4cv.webp

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by DLHAM
Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Fleet Discussion - 2024
Replies: 1239
Views: 189725

Re: United Airlines Fleet Discussion - 2024

Hello, are there any news regarding the Seat Layout of the A321XLR? A few month ago there were talks about the XLR receiving 28 Business Class seats. This pretty much matches the 757 PS and may be used for some markets. However I keep reading that United wants to expand into secondary European marke...

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by DLHAM
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 107
Views: 25857

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production / Deliveries - 2024

vinaixa wrote:
Could the A321XLR do MAD-JNB? The flight would be within the 4,700nm max range, but altitude on both ends might play a role.


With the ACT and some hefty Payload Optimization: probably.

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by DLHAM
Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germany Aviation - 2024
Replies: 19
Views: 3585

Re: Germany Aviation - 2024

The Airline "Travelcoup", who operate Private Jets on schedule so people can book these flights and have a "shared" Private Jet experience which is much cheaper than chartering one, is starting domestic flights in Germany from mid February. Three times a week they will fly betwee...

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by DLHAM
Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections
Replies: 3147
Views: 417667

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

So here’s either a 9 MAX or -900 sitting outside of SPIRIT AEROSYSTEMS on a rail car. What’s that I see aft of the wing? https://d1a2ot8agkqe8w.cloudfront.net/web/2014/11/737-train-640_58336.jpg Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/737-derailment-probe-suggests-track-alignment-issue/115020.article ...

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by DLHAM
Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network - 2024
Replies: 1225
Views: 166681

Re: United Airlines Network - 2024

Why would United add hamburg which already has huge feed from Lufthansa? Better to add places like Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow,where they have no partner Because of this: If they don't fly HAM to the US someone else will midterm -- American, jetBlue, Emirates or even someone else we don't think...

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by DLHAM
Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network - 2024
Replies: 1225
Views: 166681

Re: United Airlines Network - 2024

Why would United add hamburg which already has huge feed from Lufthansa? Better to add places like Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow,where they have no partner Because of this: If they don't fly HAM to the US someone else will midterm -- American, jetBlue, Emirates or even someone else we don't think...

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by DLHAM
Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network - 2024
Replies: 1225
Views: 166681

Re: United Airlines Network - 2024

When it comes to destinations UA could add or re-add on the TATL front, I think it's more likely we see EWR-HAM flights return with the A321XLRs or 788s. I think the thing working against HAM is the fact that A++ probably already has 80%+ market share on US-HAM. If they don't fly HAM to the US some...

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by DLHAM
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines A350 collides with aircraft at HND
Replies: 1206
Views: 199344

Re: A350 incident Tokyo

dmcreif wrote:
ktachiya wrote:
Is this the first crash involving an A350?


Yes, this is the first hull loss for the A350.


Not only this, if I am not mistaken this is the first hull loss of a full composite airliner. I am sure both Airbus and Boeing can learn something new and maybe improve one thing or another after this.

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by DLHAM
Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:37 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When will Boeing finally consider ending the 737 family
Replies: 80
Views: 10962

Re: When will Boeing finally consider ending the 737 family

The 737NG once was supposed to have the cockpit section of the 757 including the cockpit of course. This would have changed a lot, but customers, especially Southwest obviously, were not happy with this idea. They even wanted the NG to be more "basic" than it is now. Listening to the like...

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by DLHAM
Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:41 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When will Boeing finally consider ending the 737 family
Replies: 80
Views: 10962

Re: When will Boeing finally consider ending the 737 family

I've always wondered if automating the flight deck with an EICAS and ELC, auto start, auto packs and electrics....(items that are on the modern cockpit) were ever in the cards for the Max a/c? If they could update landing gear, why couldn't they update these? The 737NG once was supposed to have the...

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by DLHAM
Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2024
Replies: 1152
Views: 153839

Re: American Airlines Network - 2024

consolidated list, version 3 (updated 12.31.2023) context : discontinued long-haul AA routes, around mid-1980's - today (list is in progress, feel free to edit) Note: includes some L-US (legacy US Airways) routes, pre-and-post HP merger, as well as a few TW routes that operated from 2000-onwards af...

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by DLHAM
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation - 2023
Replies: 506
Views: 122936

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

German media reports that SAS now officially axed Newark to Aalborg and Göteborg. https://www.aerotelegraph.com/sas-stellt-a321-lr-fluege-ab-aalborg-und-goeteborg-wieder-ein?fbclid=IwAR3rgDmSbQ7DvqhTu0O7DRaYomDXa-2cebWA8oMIy9kJtQwRCfZ3IrfAH4Y I admire the courage to try something new and think outs...

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by DLHAM
Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation - 2023
Replies: 506
Views: 122936

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

German media reports that SAS now officially axed Newark to Aalborg and Göteborg. https://www.aerotelegraph.com/sas-stellt-a321-lr-fluege-ab-aalborg-und-goeteborg-wieder-ein?fbclid=IwAR3rgDmSbQ7DvqhTu0O7DRaYomDXa-2cebWA8oMIy9kJtQwRCfZ3IrfAH4Y I admire the courage to try something new and think outsi...

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by DLHAM
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851124

Re: American Airlines Network - 2023

Add to that list (JFK-)BRU-HAM, (ORD-)BRU-DUS, ORD-DUS, I think there once was ORD-DUS-TXL and ORD-TXL-MUC as well as JFK-ZRH(?)-STR.

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by DLHAM
Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Beluga XL Production Thread
Replies: 316
Views: 86063

Re: Airbus Beluga XL Production Thread

Someone else can elaborate, but I think it has something to do with them being an experimental type, and therefore not going through full (any?) certification, 6 is the most they can build. It achieved type certification in November 2019 (see link a few posts further up). However it's not listed at...

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by DLHAM
Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways adds HAM, returns to VCE
Replies: 6
Views: 1759

Re: Qatar Airways adds HAM, returns to VCE

Great news for HAM! That's welcoming and will be a success for sure.. LH won't be happy! Absolutely not, and yes, I think they will be successful too. HAM has a huge market to the Far East, and Qatar Airways will be able to capture a lot more from this now. Emirates won't be happy as well. Wonder w...

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by DLHAM
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways adds HAM, returns to VCE
Replies: 6
Views: 1759

Qatar Airways adds HAM, returns to VCE

Finally, after ages, Qatar launches HAM. Until recently they did not have enough landing rights to do so, now with the new Openskies Agreement between the EU and Qatar it is possible. One daily flight starting July 1, operated by 787-8. Additionally Qatar Airways returns to Venice, with one daily fl...

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by DLHAM
Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Orders 40 A220s & 40 737 MAX + 120 options
Replies: 117
Views: 24869

Re: Lufthansa Group Orders 40 A220s & 40 737 MAX + 120 options

AA has 172 seats in their Max 8s I believe. They have them configured with 1st (4 rows), Main Cabin Extra (5 rows) and Main Cabin. LH will need 3 extra rows to hit 190. Perhaps only 2 or 3 rows of 1st and no "Main Cabin Extra"? Otherwise it will be 190 seats for ants. Correct on AA's conf...

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by DLHAM
Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fastest ever 707 taxi
Replies: 20
Views: 4637

Re: Fastest ever 707 taxi

jetwet1 wrote:
Drive it like you stole it.


Who knows, maybe they did.

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by DLHAM
Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Royal Jordanian Livery
Replies: 41
Views: 10626

Re: New Royal Jordanian Livery

The RJ livery is one of my absolute all-time favorites, I was really afraid to click on that link but it's actually pretty good, could have been much worse. However the original one looks much more elegant.

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by DLHAM
Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934724

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

Looks like Stuttgart will return to year-round service from winter 2024/2025. Most interesting fact: schedules show an A330-200, which means the first change of equipment on this route in almost 30 years (not considering change between 767-300 and -400). Welcome to the future. ATL-STR is one of tho...

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by DLHAM
Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934724

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

Looks like Stuttgart will return to year-round service from winter 2024/2025. Most interesting fact: schedules show an A330-200, which means the first change of equipment on this route in almost 30 years (not considering change between 767-300 and -400).

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by DLHAM
Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thai Airways Explores Major Aircraft Order, Focusing on Boeing 787 Widebodies
Replies: 148
Views: 31483

Re: Thai Airways Explores Major Aircraft Order, Focusing on Boeing 787 Widebodies

So where are all these 80 or so B787s going to be flown ? That's a lot from their current fleet. I am pretty sure there is a lot of white spots in the route map. Regarding Europe for example Manchester, Hamburg and Madrid are the largest unserved markets from Bangkok, with 100.000 and more passenge...

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by DLHAM
Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2023
Replies: 3331
Views: 714437

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2023

Not in the late 1990s, I can remember the new configured 767-300ERs having almost 50 seats in Business Class, which was half the airplane all the way up to the Overwing Exits. They would be perfect for most of the trunk routes to Amsterdam for example. I think it was 56J on the 767ER in 2001 - and ...

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by DLHAM
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2023
Replies: 3331
Views: 714437

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2023

DL has always been quite conservative with their the size of their J cabins compared to AA and UA, no? DL's 747s had 48 D1 as well. I do not see DL going beyond that number. Unlike the other legacies, DL certainly focuses on quality over quantity! Not in the late 1990s, I can remember the new confi...

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by DLHAM
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 628
Views: 189944

Re: Emirates News and Discussion - 2023

Considering no F class on the A359, it's pretty easy to deduce they will start on routes that are currently seeing the 77L, and don't require F. YUL/GIG/EZE/MEX/BCN, etc. It was also stated by EK that ADL will be relaunched once the A350 arrives. https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/emirates-a35...

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by DLHAM
Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4642
Views: 975433

Re: United Airlines Network - 2023

I wonder if UA will ever look at some of the secondary markets to CO developed so well, as new planes are delivered. I know they were an alternative since they were limited to LGW, but it's still a thought. I am sure a lot of folks miss CGN, HAM, BFS, BRS. I think BFS was subsidized and that ended?...

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by DLHAM
Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production - 2023
Replies: 496
Views: 117834

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production - 2023

There will though be a difference between the 737-10 and the A321, with respectively 230 and 244 seats in a high density, single-class configuration. I do wonder if we will see many high density XLR's? The additional MTOW also means the XLR can fly further with higher payload, compared to a standar...

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by DLHAM
Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AMS putting a limit on international passenger traffic through the airport
Replies: 578
Views: 85164

Re: AMS putting a limit on international passenger traffic through the airport

Why is JetBlue so insistent on flying to Amsterdam ? Dortmund + Dusseldorf + Cologne/Bonn airports are only slightly further away, see 40+ million (largely O&D) pax per year, have 11 million people in their metropolitan area, and no scheduled flights at all to North America Catchment area might...

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by DLHAM
Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2023 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 68193

Re: Dubai Air Show 2023 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread

I think the 787-10 is ideal for EK to secondary European cities where you do not need the capacity or payload/range of an A380 or 77W. Think Dublin, Hamburg, Glasglow, Manchester, Lyon among others. All of these cities are roughly 3000-3500 nmi from Dubai which is the 787-10 sweet spot. Then routin...

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by DLHAM
Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 628
Views: 189944

Re: Emirates News and Discussion - 2023

Confimed- Emirates will introduce a new business classes in a 1-2-1 configuration on the 77W when they retrofit them to include Prem. Eco. ‘Next summer (2024), we will start retrofitting 53 Boeing 777-300/ERs. All will go through the premium economy retrofit. We are re-adjusting our business class ...

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by DLHAM
Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74359

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

In a two class configuration the A351 typically seats 369 pax. That would be 54J and 315 Y. BA for instance seats 331, but there's is a more premium heavy configuration. The 779 seats 414-426 in a two class configuration. That would be 42J and 372 to 384 Y. Despite the back and forth which is fun, ...

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by DLHAM
Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car
Replies: 20
Views: 4489

Re: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car

Wow, that looks quite dramatic. What a crazy world we live in. I wonder what made that man so desperate. Hopefully everyone remains unharmed. No matter what this moron made so desperade! Kiddnapping a four years old child is a very bad thing which is maybe lasting for all the life of this kid. All ...

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by DLHAM
Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car
Replies: 20
Views: 4489

Re: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car

Luckily nothing has happened to the child.
Operations are slowly starting to resume. Finnair sent an A330-300 to pick up all the stranded passengers. TAP was planning to send an A330-900, but the flight got canceled as it was about to takeoff from LIS before the drama has ended.

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by DLHAM
Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car
Replies: 20
Views: 4489

Re: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car

Bremen got a diversion as well. I'm surprised so many flights were launched. Ryanair included. Well it's a tough decision. NOTAM says the airport is closed until midday. Of course you can play safe and delay or cancel the flight, but what if it really opens again? Different philosophies. SunExpress...

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by DLHAM
Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car
Replies: 20
Views: 4489

Re: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car

NOTAM is valid until midday (90 minutes from now) -- so far. Q) EDWW/QFALC/IV/NBO /A /000/999/5338N00959E A) EDDH B) 23/11/05 07:21 C) 23/11/05 11:00 E) AD CLOSED So no air traffic since 6am this morning too, as well as since around 8-8.30pm until the curfew yesterday. Most flights yesterday got div...

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by DLHAM
Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car
Replies: 20
Views: 4489

HAM: armed man kidnapps child and breaks through security with car

An armed man broke through the Security Checkpoint at Hamburg Airport with his car this evening, after kidnapping a 4 year old child (apparently his own child). He then shot into the sky twice with a gun and threw some Molotov Cocktails out of the car window. As there are no further news it looks li...

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by DLHAM
Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74359

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

The biggest problem the A350 has is at 10 abreast its really going to be tight, and might be the tipping point of what people can accept. People say that the public will just accept it but we are getting to the point where pax will literally not fit in the seat. Cant beat physics. The A35K is not q...

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by DLHAM
Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4642
Views: 975433

Re: United Airlines Network - 2023

I took a flight to HAM from EWR about a year before UA ended service and it was on a 767. The next fight I was going to take over, UA cancelled service before my return flight which I got the scoop here on a.net and I called reservaions and UA rebooked me out of DFW on their Star Alliance partner L...

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by DLHAM
Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 2261
Views: 498667

Re: AC announces ARN

rushed wrote:
Wonder if this will last when SAS switch over to Skyteam.


I don't think there would be much passengers connecting beyond Stockholm. I guess the majority will be O&D anyway, Canadians visiting Sweden and Swedes visiting the US. There are tons of other and quicker options to get elsewhere.

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by DLHAM
Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4642
Views: 975433

Re: United Airlines Network - 2023

Chief Commercial Officer Andrew Nocella took part on the Skift Aviation Forum today. He says United is betting that international traffic growth and market opportunities will continue for a long time as the U.S. domestic market stimulation eventually taps out by late this decade with any growth tie...

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by DLHAM
Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Flight attendants barricade galley in flight
Replies: 130
Views: 24698

Re: AA Flight attendants barricade galley in flight

"Hey @AmericanAir allow your crews to block off access to rear exits DURING flight so your FA’s can sit and chat ? Seatbelt harnesses connected together." Why is there no curtain, cost saving by AA?! I don't think curtains are usual in Narrowbody aircraft. Can't remember ever seeing them.

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by DLHAM
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production - 2023
Replies: 151
Views: 47102

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production - 2023

Is there any design room left for Boeing to develop a short-field performance package for the 7MJ? Can the LEAP 1B be tweaked to produce more power ? How much more power would it take to improve takeoff performance? I’m sure that is already incorporated in the standard 737 design now. Incl 7MJ. The...

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by DLHAM
Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production - 2023
Replies: 151
Views: 47102

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production - 2023

Can the 7MJ be fitted with extra fuel tanks to compete with the A321XLR? What other modifications can be done for it to reach 8-9 hours of flight time? Surely possible, but I don't know how much MTOW is left for the additional weight and fuel then, the MAX9 should be a better candidate for that. An...

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