Re: Should China Pay Reparations for COVID-19?

Lots of people showing their racism in this thread. Brought all the racists out. Noted. Calling out potential health hazards in any part of the globe is not "racist". Now is the time for the whole world to rethink its food safety system. Maybe the US should do that too? Guess what? Every ...

Re: Should China Pay Reparations for COVID-19?

Pellegrine wrote:

Lots of people showing their racism in this thread. Brought all the racists out. Noted.

Re: What will be the lasting effects of the Coronavirus on commercial aviation?

I would expect the lasting impacts will not be directly health-related; after all, pandemics of this nature are quite uncommon (the significant ones in the past 100 years have not been airborne until now), and once the virus either circles the globe (causing acquired immunity among survivors) or a ...

Re: New Boeing Freighters

B787-8F would be the only one that actually make sense. It would help the -8 orders to go up. B777-8X isn't viable for now or the future, B767-300ERF is a dinosaur. And the MAX is grounded. Using your logic, the A320-200 should be a "dinosaur" in about 1.5 years: 767-300ER: December 1986 ...

Re: New Boeing Freighters

Most likely clickbait for the two proposals we know of: the 77W P2F conversion GECAS is taking charge on and the B764F with the 747's GEnX engines. I think the B764F has a lot of promise, lots more volume, better fuel efficiency, and more payload. It's really the 764 frame and gear merged with the ...

Re: New Boeing Freighters

Most likely clickbait for the two proposals we know of: the 77W P2F conversion GECAS is taking charge on and the B764F with the 747's GEnX engines. I think the B764F has a lot of promise, lots more volume, better fuel efficiency, and more payload. It's really the 764 frame and gear merged with the ...

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2020

https://news.delta.com/ed-bastian-memo-delta-taking-additional-steps-protect-our-future Does anyone want to take a guess which 767's are taking an early trip to the heap? Ed says "older" aircraft, but I thought the 76T' s we're going first? No mention of the Star Trek the Next Generation E...

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Delta now cutting 70% of capacity, 80% of international capacity, parking 600 planes. Accelerated retirements for MD-88/90s and select 767s. I knew the 767s wouldn't make it :cry: . External source? Found it: https://news.delta.com/ed-bastian-memo-delta-taking-additional-steps-protect-our-future

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

deltairlines wrote:

Delta now cutting 70% of capacity, 80% of international capacity, parking 600 planes. Accelerated retirements for MD-88/90s and select 767s.

Re: Should China Pay Reparations for COVID-19?

Just think of the number of countries who could ask an apology and reparations from the USA. Vietnam from bombing it to hell, poisoning everything with agent orange. Laos and Cambodge too. Most countries in Latin America for CIA coups. Half the Middle East. Iran the list goes on Then there is the n...

Re: Should China Pay Reparations for COVID-19?

Just think of the number of countries who could ask an apology and reparations from the USA. Vietnam from bombing it to hell, poisoning everything with agent orange. Laos and Cambodge too. Most countries in Latin America for CIA coups. Half the Middle East. Iran the list goes on Then there is the n...

Re: Should China Pay Reparations for COVID-19?

Is there any actual proof (keyword: proof) of the laboratory theory besides a conspiracy for conspiracy sake? Just like most conspiracy theories, it just seems like people want to believe something more nefarious and connect dots that don't necessarily need to be connected And then we're to believe...

Re: Should China Pay Reparations for COVID-19?

"Disgusting Chinese habits"? I can tell you of a lot of nations which have traditions and habits that I find disgusting. Like ALL OF THEM. Like raising chicken in an environment so nasty that only chlornating can make them safe for human consumption...... Also propably a waiting-to-happen...

Re: Is the developed western world paying the price for arrogance？

ltbewr wrote:

The arrogance of 'it can't happen here' as to a pandemic has been shattered around the world and yes, it includes the PRC.

Re: Is the developed western world paying the price for arrogance？

Tell me again how the US is so much better at dealing with this : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-03-09/how-coronavirus-spread-from-patient-zero-in-seattle Did the US contain this in January ? Is it contained now ? How come ? Many of us aren't denying the US screwed this thing up, but ...

Re: Is the developed western world paying the price for arrogance？

Can't tell if you are serious or not, but to be clear: let's not. The Versailles treaty was one of the reasons WWII started. It was well within their means to prevent, then control the outbreak. They deserve to foot the bill for this mess. Next we will sanction countries according to their contribu...

Re: Is the developed western world paying the price for arrogance？

The West's arrogance is clear, but what is with all of you PRC apologists?

Re: Novel Coronavirus outbreak

Yes lets follow the lead on Europe here not trust the US... but wait the US made a travel ban first, who did it later? Trump sure likes his travel bans. :sarcastic: Perhaps the most recent one would've been effective if he had implemented it 2 months ago, but doing it now does nothing except give h...

Re: Novel Coronavirus outbreak

This thing began as far as November. Are you another China apologist? China shaved almost 2 months off from the rest of the world to prepare. Are you suggesting those research papers should have been completed faster? Not sure you understand scientific process... Demanding perfection for those he d...

Re: Novel Coronavirus outbreak

https://apnews.com/8089a3d0ec8f9fde971bddd7b3aa2ba1 Coronavirus Vaccine Trials to Start on Monday WASHINGTON (AP) — The first participant in a clinical trial for a vaccine to protect against the new coronavirus will receive an experimental dose on Monday, according to a government official. The Nat...

Re: Novel Coronavirus outbreak

I know it's a moot point currently, but why are so many people forgetting what the Chinese government was doing back in Nov/Dec when this was first starting to break out?

Re: Silly designs in otherwise great aircraft

CATIIIevery5yrs wrote:

A320. “Page Update In Progess”

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Airlines for business travelers are seeing poor loads, everybody else is seeing sort of half to full loads. It is expected. People have family, Long distance relationships, etc. This may come as a shock to a lot of people but after this is over, life will go on. Airlines will continue to grow and p...

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Just a thought. I wonder with travel to L:HR soon to be restricted what is the chance UA will run the 767 HJ on trans-cons from EWR and IAD? I hope so - I'm flying to visit my family in the NE US in late June and that would be nice. Sadly - the 1986 EIS of the 763 type will mean they will be the fi...

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

[threeid][/threeid] Another thing to note: French Bee and Air Tahiti Nui to and from French Polynesia are rerouting their flights via PTP. Air Tahiti Nui is also planning a one-time nonstop to France from Tahiti. (The return flight to Papeete today is via YVR, and switches to PTP tomorrow.) While OR...

Re: SWA 737 Suffers Fuselage Crack

The FAA would certainly consider inspections or even modification. The FAA doesn’t come up with inspections or the proposal on how to mitigate the cracks. Boeing comes up with the inspection or modification and the FAA mandates them through an airworthiness directive. Considering there are more 737...

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Another thing to note: French Bee and Air Tahiti Nui to and from French Polynesia are rerouting their flights via PTP. Air Tahiti Nui is also planning a one-time nonstop to France from Tahiti. (The return flight to Papeete today is via YVR, and switches to PTP tomorrow.) While ORY and PTP are in th...

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

What a waste. Some 763's aren't even legal in DFW yet.

Why are no older A320's, 772's or 738's going?

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Airlines are suffering badly and it seems likely that some will go bankrupt. While a 30 year old airframe will go straight to soft drink cans, what happens to airframes that are 10 years old ? Will leasing companies want to buy them ? Would the bankruptcy trustee be allowed to spend money putting t...

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

IAmGaroott wrote:

And the A333s soldier on.

I assume the domestic 757s will be the first to go?

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Would think LHR service could be busy. Maybe UA will move larger aircraft to LHR. Question on LHR traffic that originated in Europe, is that banned or subject to quarantine? Parking aircraft options. Leave some in Europe. EWR could close gates 112 around to 126 and use gates and ramp for storage. B...

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

With cargo being impacted, how the hell are important items like test kits, experimental drug samples, and protective gear supposed to be shipped quickly between the two continents?

Re: US cancels flight to Europe except UK for 30 days

johns624 wrote:

1989worstyear wrote:

Rip all remaining pax 757's and 767's.

Yeah, because that's what's important here. Thousands getting sick and dying, thousands being laid off and you're worried about some planes...

Re: US cancels flight to Europe except UK for 30 days

Rip all remaining pax 757's and 767's.

Re: McDonald's Double Big Mac (4 Patties?!?!?)

With the US going into prepper mode over the virus, how the hell can anyone justify eating one of these things?

And screw CNN for promoting it during a health crisis...

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Some developments on the wires: March 10 (Reuters) - United Airlines Holdings Inc (UAL): * UNITED AIRLINES PRESIDENT SAYS NOT TAKING DELIVERY OF A SINGLE AIRCRAFT - JP MORGAN CONF * UNITED AIRLINES PRESIDENT SAYS OUR GROSS BOOKINGS IN THE PACIFIC ARE DOWN ABOUT 70% - JP MORGAN CONF * UNITED AIRLINE...

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Is there a reason why they couldn't deploy the 76T' s on routes where the oldest 763's are flying? Or is this confirmation that they're retiring the newest 763's first? I think you're overthinking a very fluid situation. Airlines right now are reacting, not planning. 76Ts are (a) premium heavy and ...

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment Thread - 2020

Absolute bonkers posts about retiring all 757 and 767s. So terrible for everyone in the industry to add stress and drama to an already tense situation. Interestingly, even if they did park some of the 75/6 fleet and speed up the -88 draw-down, that would very much be consistent with the history of ...

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

3/2-3/8 Period Total Fleet: 155 Scheduled Service: 116/155 Spares: 26/155 (7x76T; 2x76L; 7x76Z; 3x764(DS); 1x764; 2x77L; 4x333) Conversion: 5/155 (1x 76Z@CAN; 4x 764@CAN) Maintenance/Paint: 7/155 (76L@MCI; 76Z@GUS; 76Z@ILN; 76Z@QPG; 332@MSP; 772@SIN; 333@LCH) Induction/Storage: 1/155 (339@NRT) High...

Re: Government aid to offset C Virus effect

After 9-11 the US Govt provided direct subsidies to American Airlines that had to deal with huge traffic downturns Maybe it’s time to consider this again ? The airlines have made record profits for a decade. Can they really not handle 1 down quarter? I think not all have had record profits and it a...

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Buying more 763s back then would have bought AA more time. They could have waited to replace them until Boeing launches their 763/753 replacement aircraft, instead of ordering 788s now which have too much range for most 767 routes. I think the bigger issue is AA failed to properly update and mainta...

Re: Do Boeing continually improve their products?

As the title suggests do Boeing use the Airbus model of tinkering with their products? Is there a difference between the 747-8F today from 2012? 767F today from 20 years ago? B777-300ER today from 2014? B787 today from 2014? I think you catch my drift..... I may be wrong but I think the OP means ho...

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

This is interesting. It seems like UA has been the most proactive at making decisions as soon as possible. Maybe they have been hurt the most? I agree that April is probably the earliest you can make this dramatic kind of cuts. I still think more cuts are coming. All the airlines (with the exceptio...

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020

United to cut international flights by 20 percent and domestic by 10 percent. They will also park dozens of widebodies. I imagine there will be furloughs coming very soon for some pilots and flight attendants https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/united-cutting-flights-in-april-amid-coronavirus-outbreak....

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020