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So the 5 designs have been unveiled... any thoughts on them? Personally I think design 3 or 1 are the nicest, and calatrava’s (5) being the one I would want the least.
Just passed through O’Hare on January first. In UA’s C concourse some gate areas are closed for renovations. The pictures show extensions/modernization of the gate area, and has 787’s parked on it. Are these modifications allowing 787’s to park at T1 now or is it just UA marketing? Does anyone have ...
Jump to postNeither EWR nor SFO are major hubs for another of the major international carriers. ORD is a major hub for both AA and UA, and thus is running at pretty much full capacity. Until the expansion is complete there will be no major increases except for maybe some short haul upgauging and frequency. In t...
Jump to postIf you haven't been paying attention to the route "announcements" of China Southern Airlines you'd be forgiven; it seems that with Chinese carriers planned new routes amount to little more than wish lists. Several months back Sichuan Airlines announced its intentions of beginning service ...
Jump to postI was at ORD this afternoon. Driving in was impossible, as I-190 was completely flooded and blocked at Mannheim. Total chaos on the streets, we ended up parking the car at Rosemont and taking the blue line into the airport. We left downtown around 2:40 and didn’t get into the airport until almost 5:...
Jump to postFinally, the T5 expansion was suppose to be underway already, what happened there? Maybe, they figured it would be more cost effective if major construction started all at once, so they delayed T5 until work can begin on the rest of the terminals. That’s just speculation, but it might make sense. A...
Jump to postI’m pretty sure I read somewhere that the reason the ATS is taking so long is because of they are replacing all the tracks, not just extending. I’m not an expert by any means, and I’m not familiar with Chicagoan politics, but I see that a lot of you guys are pretty negative when it comes to the time...
Jump to postMy prediction: All non stop services go premium heavy. One stopper/two stopper services downgraded to Scoot I sincerely doubt that. The US is a large and pretty untapped market for SQ, so downgrading most flights to Scoot will remove its brand Identity from the market. When people fly SQ, they fly ...
Jump to postIn case anyone's wondering, the trigger for automatic construction of Sat 3 is ORD yearly pax count of 101,500,000. On a (hopefully) lighter note: obviously, the TAP includes fire detection/suppression systems for the terminals; I'm hoping the firm from BBI hasn't heard. Hopefully they’ll pull that...
Jump to postAll of Denver would be sucked into a black hole formed by the singularity created once UA is surpassed. Colorado would implode, causing a massive seismic shift that causes Yellowstone to erupt, forever ending the United States of America as the country is buried in 10 meters of ash. In all seriousne...
Jump to postI’m also curious about the ATS. Are the actually trains being upgraded to something new? Or are they still gonna use the blah trains we have now. I’d love to see some futuristic ATS system zipping around the airport. This combined with improved stations is imperative as a lot of traffic will be redi...
Jump to postI kinda like it, kinda. It seems very QR to me. Apparently the animal on the tail is called a Markhor and is the national animal of the nation I actually like the PIA tail you have as your avatar. Thanks! It was a part of a concept livery I created for the PIA livery Competition http://i.imgur.com/...
Jump to postI have a feeling that since the master plan shows L being demolished along with H/K there will eventually be a third phase that redevelops that whole area but it's not in the current proposals because it would be purely for net expansion compared to the current plan which is as much about rebuildin...
Jump to postWhen BA adds DTW, ORD will be gutted as it lives on DTW, CLE, CVG, CMH, IND, STL, MCI, DSM, MSP, and MKE leakage, but 90% from DTW! At best ORD-LHR is a BA 757 route, less than daily. If that were the case why don’t people fly DL to LHR straight from DTW? Also, why is the 3rd largest population cen...
Jump to postLooking closely at one of the graphics, where it shows the what airlines get what gates it also says that these are the airlines that will operate from global hub (new T2).
AA (and core partners):
BA
IB
JL
CX
UA (and core partners):
LH
ANA
CA
AC
According to Chicago tribune article, it seems like the only international partners going to the Global Terminal would be BA, JL, ANA, and LH. This seems like too few, especially if ALL the OW and Star partners are supposed to relocate. I would assume at least CX, TK, QR, and EK would also join them...
Jump to postMy guess is that the airline chose these colors to align better with QR, and also not to rip directly from AZ’s red and green livery. Maybe they’ll switch colors if AZ goes under.
I wonder what this livery could look like in italian red and green...
I like it. Yes its simple, and albeit kind of boring, but it is also very business-like, and German.
Seems to me like a perfect rebrand for an airline like LH, as it all just looks professional.
What is with everyone complaining about Euro white? I find those cheat lines incredibly dated, especially with the aircraft we have today, as they become sleeker and sleeker. Cheatlines looked good on aircraft of the past, minimalist and abstract designs look great on the elegant aircraft of today. ...
Jump to postI doubt it. When in NYC all you see are united ads saying that EWR is a better option than JFK. They advertise that EWR is a minute closer on average than JFK from Manhattan, and stuff like that. Seems to me that if they were planning on going back to JFK they would cut the ads.
Jump to postTo be fair I dont think it was a 'certain' order at all.Airbus wouldn't have been 'threatening ' closure of the line if it was a slam dunk. I note as others have done that Airbus has emphasised how long the line will now remain open.It sounds like this will/should take them through to where all the...
Jump to postMadison is getting a new nonstop flight from UA... to SFO!!
http://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Dane- ... 31893.html
I have heard that it's just going to be a variation of the current one. The yellow of the logo will disappear and be replaced by silver, much like the logo of their business class lounge. Official presentation should be on February 8th or 9th Yep, same thing I heard: only grey/silver crane, no ring...
Jump to postWill we see the O’Hare 21 plan for the terminal renovation? I’m really excited to see renders of what the new terminal(s) will look like. Also, what things under construction will open in 2018? I’m thinking of the concourse L extension (which looks to be almost done) and the O’Hare intermodal facili...
Jump to postWell, seeing that "Jet Blue" is the official carrier of Progressives in America, I expect these crew members to donate that extra money to their favorite charities.... After all, were it not for Republicans and (dare I say it....?) President Trump, none of the economic boom that is happen...
Jump to postI don’t think airbus had that bad of a year in terms of WB. No colossal orders were won, but before they deliver 858 aircraft there are bound to be more orders. 777’s have yet to be replaced by most airlines, and when that day comes many airlines will turn to both the a359/a35K (this is just specula...
Jump to postApparently you can’t see because DTW is all over the upgrades list. Jeremy Please help me out then were you see a DTW route up gauged from a narrow body. Are you really getting upset that DL doesn't do hardly any unscheduled upgauges in DTW? Nobody cares about that God Awful place. Stop derailing t...
Jump to postAny news on the terminal expansion? It’s been a while since I’ve heard anything
Jump to postehaase wrote:I think the 10 deferred 359's and 339's will eventually replace the 777's.
I think Delta has a pretty predictable LH fleet going forward. Once the 777s are gone, we’ll see the a339, a359, and a potential a350-1000 order replace them and the higher end of the 767s. The rest will be with whatever MoM is or whatever Airbus may offer for that segment. How much of each? Well.. ...
Jump to postUm, second thought: let's have Elon Musk work on the O'hare Express! Seriously, I'd love to see a high-speed "Loop" to downtown...if they could extend to the South Side and south surburbs, that'd be even better. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hyperloop-musk/elon-musk-to-compete-to...
Jump to postRust belt city destined to die is not in the cards one way or another. Some expansion will be agreed upon but the demise of Chicago or ORD as a global gateway is not going to happen. It would be nice to see AA expand both internationally and domestically when the RJs stop using H/K gates and AA has...
Jump to postIf we're mad that ORD is not a huge goliath of an airport unlike some others we could mention, let's face it, blame United Airlines. Face it. They've been in the driver's seat for years and they're the ones going down the road going 15 under the speed limit while everyone else is flying on by. UA a...
Jump to postMy hopes are for a complete revamp of T2 and T3, with a major-ish facelift on T1 (updated interiors, new windows, and “small” stuff like that can go a long way to make it seem modern). I like the looks of T5 as it is now, with the different layout that changed a while ago. Hopefully a similar thing ...
Jump to postInteresting move, have we seen a firm business plan come out of IG? Be interesting to see what they plan, MXP is more suited to long haul, LIN is more preferred by local Milan business traffic is this correct? Yes, LIN is preferred for business traffic. I wonder what they plan on using the 787’s fo...
Jump to post420!!? Holy hell that’s a lot of planes. It would sure steal a lot of the show though, especially from Boeing who has had most of the lightning so far.
Jump to postAnyone who likes to do liveries want to make a livery of a new air italy on a 787? Just interested as to what some people come up for a new Air Italy.
Jump to postStunning. Can’t wait to see it in Delta’s livery, it’s also nice that the TATL segment will be getting some new aircraft (I fly this a lot and the 767s are the quite literally getting old). I wonder if they’ll put the DL widget on the winglet, similar to the a350. Hopefully it’ll have a successful r...
Jump to postDespite what some may say, AZ will never fail. If no airline will buy it, eventually some rich italian billionaire will get paid by the government to buy AZ and “turn it around.”
Jump to postAccording to the Reuters article, the 737 MAX, 787, and A330s will be supplied by Qatar to Meridiana to help it grow. Will also get a rebranding. I’m hoping that they buy the AZ name and transform into AZ, without the more negative aspects.
Jump to postThis proposal is entirely realistic and not idealistic. Western access was a political ploy and never meant to actually happen. A full rebuild and reconfiguration is not needed badly at all. In today's presentation they mentioned that all of T1 needs a new roof which is no small feat. What remains ...
Jump to postThis is gonna be interesting... I wonder if they are doing a general remodernization of the interiors of the existing terminals, maybe opening up T3 since it’s not changing much. It will be very interesting in 10 years to see what comes out of this.
Jump to postI guess Trudeau's decision to pander to his Quebec support base by bailing out Bombardier at the expense of the taxpayers in the rest of Canada did not pan out so well... And Boeing has been bailed out and living mighty fine with massive tax breaks. I think it's a terrible move, and seriously will ...
Jump to postBoeing will end up paying the most in the end. Because what goes around comes around. As many have said, they’ve pissed off Canada and Delta, and that’s a start. With the narrow body delta order coming soon, I wonder what will happen then... But, If Boeing finds this as an effective tool, and they c...
Jump to postI’m in the JetBlue should stay camp. I’ve never flown them, but I’m itching to try it out. If they could expand into the Midwest, I’d fly them a hell of a lot more.
Once the a321Lr comes to them, It’s obvious that tatl will happen.
I agree with all that’s been said here. I don’t think we’ll see anything new until well after all of the in development aircraft are out and flying with the airlines.
Jump to postSorry if this is incredibly stupid, I don’t know much about how any of this works, but if LH owns the name and some ops out of FCO/LIN/MXP, could they use Air Dolomiti as a base for AZ and work up from there?
Jump to postJust kill the airline and get on with it. AZ is a mess that cannot be fixed. All parties except the workers would be better off for it. Normally I would sympathize with them but they helped do this to themselves. And then what? Leave Italy, a huge tourist destination and powerful economy, to the LC...
Jump to postOf all the airlines mentioned, I think the best bets are IAG, LH, DL, and EY (in no particular order). If DL or EY can’t get full control because of the rule, then so be it. In my opinion if Lufthansa bought in to AZ and got complete control something could get done, but as others have stated, the u...
Jump to postSo, to sum up what this thread has been, two users arguing about who said what and how and what they implied with their writing. To steer it straighter, this is how I see the a350’s in NA. DL: 100% (duh) AA: 30% UA: 50% Why? Well DL took their delivery of the first, AA has differed them similarly to...
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