Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

the top remaining contiguous U.S. markets without WN service by number of domestic passengers in 2023 (Source: T-100D Domestic Segment, which can be found at https://transtats.bts.gov/databases.asp?Z1qr_VQ=E&Z1qr_Qr5p=N8vn6v10&f7owrp6_VQF=D): TYS - 2778519 AVL - 2246730 MSN - 2080650 XNA - ...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Here are the top remaining contiguous U.S. markets without WN service by number of domestic passengers in 2023 (Source: T-100D Domestic Segment, which can be found at https://transtats.bts.gov/databases.asp?Z1qr_VQ=E&Z1qr_Qr5p=N8vn6v10&f7owrp6_VQF=D): TYS - 2778519 AVL - 2246730 MSN - 20806...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Jshank83 wrote:

January international loads
WN SJD 97.3%
WN CUN 88.26%
WN MBJ 85.7%
AA CUN 78.42%
F9 CUN 45.5%

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Air Tran had a 1.5% net margin for FY 2010…. It’s not like the ATL hub exactly printed money…. Southwest also isn't very profitable as an airline but I digress. The key points of the AirTran merger were the elimination of a competitor, access to international markets, and the ability to grow the ne...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

They got GSP-ATL going from three times a day to once a day starting June 4th which makes no sense as that is when peak travel season occurs. Are all of the flights not loaded yet? It looks like they’re still adjusting the prices. GSP-BWI goes from once a day to twice a day starting at the same tim...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

DL MCI-BOS will have 1 of 2 originally scheduled mainline frequencies replaced with an E175 this summer. Will now be 1x A221 and 1x E175. Fairly surprised by this considering NK’s entrance to this route. Also, MCI-LAX on DL will be 1x/day this summer instead of 2x in 2023. BOS-MCI has been largely ...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

For those interested in the status of the A North lounge, initial plans were filed with the City of Kansas City today: https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod/SelfService/#/plan/830e0101-d8cb-4183-a0b9-fa3954413583 No detail around an operator, but it appears to be a roughly 10K sq. foot lounge. Ve...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Spirit just announced MCI to Boston and newark which starts July 10 https://x.com/yourmciguy/status/1776127645786222730?s=46&t=99zjwpClQbiW_TOEUoTaSA Strange they announced these at midnight….. though i don’t see an announcement on spirit’s website I'd be shocked to see these still operating ne...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

LAX has less daily flights than TPA, STL, SAN, SJC, SMF etc and has similar RONs to those stations as well. So yes, LAX was opened primarily for ETOPS. I could have sworn LAX was 125+ daily departures, but hasn’t come close since COVID. I think you are right. It was that high at one time. Pretty su...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Has LAX-Hawaii been an utter failure for SWA? Really makes you question the need for a crew base there with only one ETOPS route. An utter failure? No. Can the planes make more money elsewhere won routes with less competition? Absolutely. LAX isn’t a crew base because of ETOPS flying, it’s a crew b...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

AirframeAS wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

BNA base opens May 1st.

Many Congratulations to Southwest and its employees on the opening of the BNA base!

How many flight attendants and pilots would be based there?

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Has LAX-Hawaii been an utter failure for SWA? Really makes you question the need for a crew base there with only one ETOPS route.

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Yeah, the 2x will be new. Was supposed to be with the A221, too. Could see them reconsider that though. Shows as Embraer. It's a placeholder. It will be dropped to 1x CR9 if it's not dropped altogether with B6 leaving. A 3-hour flight on a CR9 isn't pleasant so if that's all they're going to offer ...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

kcdjs wrote:

I don’t think there’s anything new in the WN schedule extension, but it does look like our intl routes will return….

MBJ returns in December
SJD returns - will operate almost year round (no aug/sep
CUN will return to a daily schedule (wknds only for most of summer)

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

There is revenue potential that exists right now, for WN to take. Redeyes, for example, is an easy way to increase revenue. But they can't do it because they don't know how. There are countless international markets within range that would increase revenue over sending a MAX to LBB for the 4th time...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Worse than they have already, since the alternatives with PW GTF engines are presenting their own issues. NK expects to have 41 practically new A321s parked at year end! The problem of not getting new airplanes which they really might not need right now anyway is a good one to have. And it's not as...

Re: What's Going on with Southwest Today (WN)?

TC957 wrote:

Why could the flight not park remote at MCO and pax bussed in ?

Re: What's Going on with Southwest Today (WN)?

JAX center has Airspace Flow Programs (AFP) yet again. This is an ATC problem, not a SWA problem.

Not even close to a meltdown

Re: Former Global Crossing Chief to start Florida based A220 airline: Air Flo

Ah, let me guess, they'll fly from "underserved" markets in FL (VRB, PGD, PIE, SFB, MLB, SGJ, etc) to podunk cities in the Northeast.

I haven't seen this before...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

You are right those must be old. I came across this article, itself a few months old, looking for something else and it talks gates. The plan was to pick up 67 and 69 and drop 63 and 65. Not sure if they ended up keeping them or not (I didn't see any departures out of them today). I assume some RON...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

You are right those must be old. I came across this article, itself a few months old, looking for something else and it talks gates. The plan was to pick up 67 and 69 and drop 63 and 65. Not sure if they ended up keeping them or not (I didn't see any departures out of them today). I assume some RON...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Not many stations run 10+ unless they are gate constrained. I’m guessing it’s more like 8.5 if they have the gates FWIW https://www.southwest.com/airport-information/ Lists MCI with 10 gates which sounds like it is probably the actual number. Not that it really matters. They have plenty of room to ...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Here are the Q3 2023 PDEW's out of MCI to the top contiguous U.S. markets traveled to from MCI that don't currently have WN nonstop service out of MCI (Sources: DOT Consumer Airfare Report Table 6, which can be found at https://data.transportation.gov/Aviation/Consumer-Airfare-Report-Table-6-Contig...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Heard nothing about anything going with second lounge. I would think that AA could support an Admirals Club here with TWA’s history then blended into AA that there would be a large enough loyalty to AA here. On SWA, I think I remembered hearing or reading something years ago that SWA liked to run t...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

The only way that MCI/KCI grow with passenger count, I believe, is for SWA to connect more passengers and add more non stop destinations. The new terminal is a beauty for connecting traffic and passengers. Beats connecting throu DIA or STL hands down WN updated their city fact sheets and it’s very ...

Re: Performance of WN, B6, MX, F9, and NK in November 2023

Here's the situation WN is on. All their arriving mainland flights arrive into Hawaii past 1pm local time. They are limited in flying the planes back to the mainland because of lack of connection opportunities. With WN refusing to fly red eyes, they can't connect to the east coast with an afternoon...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Good grief, these seats look exactly the same as Alaska and some United. I know sh***ing on WN is apparently the cool thing to do these days, but can we wait until our butts are actually in the seats before we start complaining? Also, on a side not, how terrible is journalism in 2024 when they're qu...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Not a typo. I was also surprised, I double-checked For SWA, they have some connecting traffic that would push up their load factor possibly? Currently the outbound is too early for connecting but it moves to a better time in March. I’m not sure what time it was in November. But in theory assuming i...

Re: Performance of WN, B6, MX, F9, and NK in November 2023

Mboyle1988 wrote:

WN sucking wind in ATL it would appear.

Re: Performance of WN, B6, MX, F9, and NK in November 2023

My antidotal story, I start out pricing any trip on Southwest, been doing that for over thirty years. During that time lived in Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix & now Dallas 3 of which had large SW presence. I haven't bought a SW ticket in 20 years, they are always the highest by a large margin. Their...

Re: Performance of WN, B6, MX, F9, and NK in November 2023

Pretty bad numbers for WN. Can't imagine the outlook is good.

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

WN just announced that, after March, all pilot hiring will be stopped for the remainder of 2024...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Here are the Q3 2023 PDEW's out of LAS to the top remaining contiguous U.S. markets that don't currently have WN nonstop service out of LAS (Source: T-100D Domestic Segment, which can be found at https://data.transportation.gov/Aviation/Consumer-Airfare-Report-Table-6-Contiguous-State-C/yj5y-b2ir/e...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

kcdjs wrote:

AA retaliating against F9. PHL goes to 4x daily 319.

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

Boutique Air proposing weekly service from JLN to MCI for the EAS program. Would be a mix of PC12 and P180 aircraft. https://www.regulations.gov/document/DOT-OST-2006-23932-0125 Pretty unlikely they get the contract though, since SkyWest is also bidding with service to DEN/ORD. Boutique also biddin...

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

MCI-MBJ will not be returning next year unfortunately. Not surprised though with these loads. Too bad this market can't support an easy winter Caribbean nonstop.

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Unfortunate to see MCI-MBJ not returning.

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Need a better WN presence in ATL Doubtful that is going to happen. BNA is the future in the east. Expect BNA to become DEN-like for WN in the future. Exactly. There's really no reason whatsoever to invest anything into ATL. Like you said, BNA is the future, and whatever is leftover, BWI will handle.

Re: Kansas City Aviation - 2024

srg2023 wrote:

I have, in the past, flown United MCI to EWR on a full 737. MCI needs at least one flight to EWR for international connections

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024