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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More to the Story? United ERJ (swapped for CRJ) turns around from CHA because ERJ-175 "too large to land"
Replies: 41
Views: 5227

Re: More to the Story? United ERJ (swapped for CRJ) turns around from CHA because ERJ-175 "too large to land"

Reminds me of an AA (envoy?) flight I was on a couple months ago. We diverted to Richmond (going to DCA) and the pilot told us if the delay was longer than a gas and go they would have to get a bus because they didn’t have a tow bar for a E175. Which meant we couldn’t use the jetway. It surprised m...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How to look up PDEW?
Replies: 13
Views: 1386

Re: How to look up PDEW?

For the life of me I can't seem to figure out how to find PDEW for RNO-PHX. Everything I keep finding on BTS Transtats seems to including connecting traffic with AA/WN out of PHX as well. How do I find PDEW excluding connecting passengers? https://data.transportation.gov/Aviation/Consumer-Airfare-R...

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More to the Story? United ERJ (swapped for CRJ) turns around from CHA because ERJ-175 "too large to land"
Replies: 41
Views: 5227

Re: More to the Story? United ERJ (swapped for CRJ) turns around from CHA because ERJ-175 "too large to land"

Reminds me of an AA (envoy?) flight I was on a couple months ago. We diverted to Richmond (going to DCA) and the pilot told us if the delay was longer than a gas and go they would have to get a bus because they didn’t have a tow bar for a E175. Which meant we couldn’t use the jetway. It surprised me...

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How to look up PDEW?
Replies: 13
Views: 1386

Re: How to look up PDEW?

For the life of me I can't seem to figure out how to find PDEW for RNO-PHX. Everything I keep finding on BTS Transtats seems to including connecting traffic with AA/WN out of PHX as well. How do I find PDEW excluding connecting passengers? https://www.transportation.gov/policy/aviation-policy/domes...

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW adds Vancouver
Replies: 31
Views: 3856

Re: WOW adds Vancouver

hvusslax wrote:
Are there a lot of Indians around Vancouver? They wanted a destination that could drive connections to Dehli.


I was curious about this also. I also thought KEF would be way out of the way but it isn't really any worse than any other connection spot.

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW adds Vancouver
Replies: 31
Views: 3856

WOW adds Vancouver

WOW adding Vancouver. Starts June 6th. 6x a week. It wasn't the "Major" city I was thinking of but I could see it making sense. 6x a week might be a lot out of the gate but they also said they were wanting more frequency to cities. https://icelandmag.is/article/wow-air-will-be-flying-direc...

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by Jshank83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta Questions
Replies: 3
Views: 241

Re: Delta Questions

1. Yes they have always had connections that short. Now, where are you flying to/from? Because some destinations out of MSP and SLC have anywhere from 1 to 10 flights per day on Delta. If you miss that 30 minute connection, you will probably be able to get a flight later in the day. 2. Either MSP o...

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by Jshank83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta Questions
Replies: 3
Views: 241

Delta Questions

couple questions. I have noticed on Delta lately that the connections times they will let you book seem to be smaller and smaller. Some of you that fly DL more than me might know better but I have a flight coming up in a couple weeks with a 40 minute connection and I am looking to book another fligh...

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by Jshank83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23945

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

I don't mean to insult - but what attraction does St. Louis have to a European? For tourism? None. But STL fights above its weight in terms of business traffic compared to comparably sized US cities. Based on what data? There just isn't that much traffic. When KC was the Bayer agribusiness HQ they ...

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by Jshank83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23945

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

I dunno. Aren’t the upgrades to places like AUS and BNA at least circumstantial evidence that it isn’t about the cash? My argument would be that it is initially about the cash to get them to the airport. Most of the cities thrown around could support it, cash jumps the line to get you the flight fi...

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by Jshank83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23945

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

I dunno. Aren’t the upgrades to places like AUS and BNA at least circumstantial evidence that it isn’t about the cash? My argument would be that it is initially about the cash to get them to the airport. Most of the cities thrown around could support it, cash jumps the line to get you the flight fi...

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by Jshank83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?
Replies: 82
Views: 16305

Re: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?

I can't speak to all routes, but for PIT at least, Iceland tourism has relatively little to do with it. Disagree; O&D between PIT and KEF has expanded exponentially since WW started service. Most people I know that have flown WW were going to Iceland. I would hope so. How many people a day cons...

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread 2018
Replies: 748
Views: 66605

Re: JetBlue Network Thread 2018

Get ready for more B6 cuts beginning of January. Also this week big announcement. Listen for news from Boston on Wednesday. The Leadership team will be in Boston for a base meeting in Thursday. So it seems like they will be up that way. If it’s a Boston announcement I would think it might be the lo...

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1600
Views: 131961

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

jplatts wrote:
There was a post in the jetBlue Network Thread that said that there was going to be a big jetBlue announcement next week.

Is B6 going to be announcing new service out of CVG or re-entry into CMH next week?


What do you think?

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? - 2018
Replies: 1835
Views: 108899

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? - 2018

EvanWSFO wrote:
I've always expected WN would add RIC. Not so sure why GSP was dropped. My gripe with WN at BNA, seems like every time they add, they subtract. They have ample gate space to add.


Departures are up a lot from last year. They have added a lot of frequency to routes more than new destinations.

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23945

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Can we chill with this "CHS is a mecca for tourism and industry" Let's look at the facts, shall we: https://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Top-25-unserved-US-markets.jpg These facts leave out STL. 300 daily pax depart daily for Europe. Strange they are not listed in this data. H...

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1600
Views: 131961

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

WW is adding a new city next week: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2018/10/18/wow-air-ceo-discusses-us-flights-india/1684201002/ ...not saying it's CMH, but it could make sense. That said, DL is dropping MCO-GRU, which would free up a 767 and I'd rather have that plane c...

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN Aircraft Utilization
Replies: 21
Views: 3183

Re: WN Aircraft Utilization

Thats what I was thinking, Southwest does not even fly redeyes. How can they be anywhere near the top of aircraft utilization. Someone tell me the secret how Southwest makes so much money with such poor aircraft utilization, and such high labor compensation and no business/first class premium seati...

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by Jshank83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

There really is nothing to get upset about the BA twice a week LHR-CHS flight it equates to nothing more than a twice a week four month summer charter flight nothing more nothing less. Who knows if it even comes back in 2020. Lol! If STL got this the narrative would be “BA is making an ambitious be...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE

Found this interesting. Seems like speculated they will focus on bigger cities with more frequency to help enhance their India demand. A lot more questions than I copied and pasted but I wanted to put a few down. Is this a sign of a bigger shakeup to WOW’s U.S. footprint? What we really are doing, i...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN Aircraft Utilization
Replies: 21
Views: 3183

Re: WN Aircraft Utilization

-800s and the MAX8 have the exact same seating chart so those they switch around a lot. It doesn't really make any difference which one they fly on the route since the are the same seating config. I don't see them switch 700 to -800/MAX as often.

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Hard to find hard facts on the total number of European visitors to STL each year, but the Post, back in 2013 reported this "About 87,000 travelers from those countries (Canada, Europe, Mexico) visited the area in 2013, according to the St. Louis Convention & Visitors Commission" http...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

Hard to find hard facts on the total number of European visitors to STL each year, but the Post, back in 2013 reported this "About 87,000 travelers from those countries (Canada, Europe, Mexico) visited the area in 2013, according to the St. Louis Convention & Visitors Commission" http...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1434
Views: 116490

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

From the PD article cited above: Quote from FI: "The loads outside of summer still do not appear to warrant year-round service, yet." How do they know? If one can't book FI outside of summer, they have no idea what loads would be like. I have a meeting in Europe in Nov--I wanted to take F...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-airport-to-launch-nonstop-flights-to-london/article_4edaa636-c009-11e8-b80c-27f9947a444b.html Absolute slap in the face to STL, that CHS was chosen before STL. The route development team in STL needs a shakeup, now! Surprise to me, but I am sure it...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1434
Views: 116490

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

From the PD article cited above: Quote from FI: "The loads outside of summer still do not appear to warrant year-round service, yet." How do they know? If one can't book FI outside of summer, they have no idea what loads would be like. I have a meeting in Europe in Nov--I wanted to take F...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Best and worst aspects of the carriers you fly
Replies: 23
Views: 995

Re: Best and worst aspects of the carriers you fly

As I mainly fly economy I am basing mine on that. Southwest: Best- No change fees, legroom, bags, pre boarding process (the lining up part, I really like that you have a set order and not a mad rush like cattle trying to cram into one door), Free TV Worst - No assigned seats. No free movies Delta: B...

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by Jshank83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE

The booked Pax on CVG/CLE/STL/DFW from today ... 10/18/18 KEF-STL 123/208 10/18/18 STL-KEF 153/208 10/18/18 KEF-CLE 147/208 10/18/18 CLE-KEF 167/208 + 10/19/18 KEF-DFW 237/345 10/20/18 DFW-KEF 237/345 10/19/18 KEF-CVG 184/208 10/20/19 CVG-KEF 141/208 10/20/18 KEF-STL 162/208 10/20/18 STL-KEF 121/20...

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by Jshank83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1638
Views: 153402

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

AaronPGH wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:

1) They are flying all their sold tickets from CLE/CVG so there is no rebooking needed.


Ahhh, I thought I had read somewhere that people with cancelled tickets would get a full refund or have the option to be rebooked at another WW city.


That was just for STL.

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by Jshank83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1638
Views: 153402

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

The thinking I could see on WW's end is: 1) We need to rebook these CLE / CVG flyers in a nearby WW city since their flights have been cancelled. At least the ones who don't ask for a refund. 2) PIT is the more mature market than the other cities and has no ULCC competition. CVG had that 14 hour pr...

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by Jshank83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

O&D numbers for 2 Qtr 2018 are out. Overall it was up 4% The nonstop to SMF started and it jumped from 84 to 112 YOY (33% jump). ORF jumped JAX. (up 17%). It is starting to get into where BDL was numbers wise when it was added. CVG had a 50% jump. Lower fares this year seem to be helping. Bigges...

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by Jshank83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

https://www.kmov.com/news/wow-air-pulli ... a06ef.html
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Decent watch/read.

KMOV talked to a airline consultant about WOW/STL.

https://www.kmov.com/news/wow-air-pulli ... a06ef.html

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by Jshank83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 2078
Views: 123284

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

2. Add IND AMS service on a seasonal basis for additional connecting opportunities provided by AMS. This is exactly what I think is most likely. I will openly admit that I am from IND and I live in AMS - so without any doubt I have some bias. I try my best to shed this bias when discussing such a t...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

I believe that the people who are insisting that high demand at STL exists are incorrect. Demand is elastic and it changes based on price. I think the very low prices charged by WW stimulated demand in STL that otherwise wouldn't exist. I think that demand will be lower even if Icelandair or Norweg...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... 659892002/
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Sounds like DFW and JFK could be gone also, undecided.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... 659892002/

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

I am not going to get too upset about this if they were expecting 90% loads like they are stating. I wouldn't have expected us to hit 90% on an airline not many have heard in the first year. First month or two maybe but after the initial people excited about it calms down I feel like asking for 90% ...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

I’m just most ticked that I didn’t get to take a trip to Iceland because of it. Hopefully someone else will come fill the opening. We’ll see Just look for one of their sales and then cart yourself up to ORD and fly Ice Air. Entirely worth it. FI is at MCI too. Easier drive and less hassle that ORD!...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

Certainly does not look good for STL's TATL ambitions, considering WW characterized it as a disappointment. The demand is there it is just a matter of getting BA to bite. I am just a little confused why they would add frequencies if loads weren't where they wanted on top of telling the airport sale...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1434
Views: 116490

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275
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CLE and CVG getting axed as well.

Apparently WOW wasn't happy with the loads from any of them.

https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1600
Views: 131961

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275
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Both CVG and CLE getting axed along with STL on WOW.

https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275
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CLE and CVG getting axed as well.

Apparently WOW wasn't happy with the loads from any of them.

https://twitter.com/ChrisNagusKMOV/stat ... 5896118275

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

For all those saying that WW will go away, and route XXX-KEF previously operated by WW will just be replaced by FI.... I have this question: What is different about FI that would allow FI to make money on XXX-KEF, whereas WW loses money operating that same route. My point is basically that if WW wa...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

You know what, I'll give them credit for not following in the footsteps of the now defunct KEF carrier by letting us know the flight is canceled ahead of time. But I guess they set the bar so low that anything looks good now. Anyways, the numbers were high enough that, if WW survives, they will ret...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

^^ actually though, I find it interesting that TWO KEF-based LLCs are going belly up at the same time, AND their flag carrier is doing horribly I am sure at least one will get saved. I would guess Icelandair would be the choice if they had to make one, they have been around longer. I still can't re...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

Another article with this quote. Sounds like they were caught off for sure guard. “We had talked to them and they said, 'No, we will be loading the schedule here in the near future for the spring and summer,' said airport director Rhonda Hamm-Niebruegge. "So we were caught a little bit by surpr...

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by Jshank83
Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL (for now)

I am pretty surprised they aren't coming back for next summer. Makes me wonder if they will be coming back for any of the seasonal routes not on the schedule yet. CLE says WW is coming back in the spring, but hasn't stated when exactly. Up until today STL thought they were flying year round for 2 y...

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL

Also I am pretty sure STL wasn’t giving them any actual money. The subsidies were waived landing fees and marketing funding. I’m sure any marketing they already paid for is gone and I’ll be curious how landing fee payments will go now. I don’t know if they were refunding them back or just not collec...

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

I’m just most ticked that I didn’t get to take a trip to Iceland because of it. Hopefully someone else will come fill the opening. We’ll see

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL (for now)

I am pretty surprised they aren't coming back for next summer. Makes me wonder if they will be coming back for any of the seasonal routes not on the schedule yet.

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by Jshank83
Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL (for now)

kavok wrote:
With all of these suspensions, which WW destinations in the USA are still left operating over the winter? It seems like the majority of their USA operations have now been suspended for the winter.


BOS, ORD, DTW, LAX, EWR, PIT, MCO, BWI.

STL is part of winter if we want to get technical...

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