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Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

Why not a split order for the A330/B777-200ER replacement? I could see the A330-200 be replaced by the B787-9, which is already in KLM’s fleet and would provide slightly more seats. Perhaps the A350 is slightly too large as a replacement? The A330-300 could be replaced by the B787-10 (already in KLM...

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Re: Air France-KLM signs for up to 160 A320neos and eight A350 freighters

I thought it most likely this would be a Boeing order, untill the rumours of last week. Despite many contributers here wanting it, the A220 isn't very logical in KLM's fleet, given that the space between the E195E2 and the A321NEO can be filled with the A320NEO. Given that KLM's oldes 737 is over tw...

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Re: Leeham News: An exclusive Boeing operator is in talks for A220 and A321neo

If they select the A321neo for KLM, the gap with KLC's E2s is indeed quite substantial. Is this where the A220 comes along? The E2s are leased for ten years if I recall, so that might work to replace them then with new A220-100s. Oh dear, the first E2's have arrived only this year, and the next one...

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Re: AF-KLM Group Narrowbody tender

hannah9898 wrote:
I bet they will order MAX because they have A220 on order too.

How so? The A220's on order will head to AF, not KL.

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Re: AA launching MIA-TLV/PBM/LIT

Pre Covid AUA PBM became a standalone and more capacity was added to the MIA GEO PBM. I assume because PYs loads on the MIA AUA sector werent good. With AA running nonstop services to both, and getting the bulk of the oil business we will see how well PY will do. There isnt a large VFR market on th...

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Re: AA launching MIA-TLV/PBM/LIT

The flight actually goes to MIA via GEO. They do both. On some days, it is routed via GEO, on others via AUA. From memory, AUA has more flights. Pre Covid AUA PBM became a standalone and more capacity was added to the MIA GEO PBM. I assume because PYs loads on the MIA AUA sector werent good. With A...

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Re: USA-India Repatriation during Covid-19: AUS-IAH-IAD-DEL-MAA on UA/AI/6E, June 2020 [lots of pictures]

Thanks for sharing, and it was a very interesting read!

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Re: KLM New route to Riyad

Are the Delft Blue houses offered in business class on DMM, and soon RUH, flights, filled with gin just like on intercontinental J on other KL flights?

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Re: From My Archives: From the Snow to the Just Plain Cold-- 2014 British Airways BOS-LHR-ORY

Thanks for sharing!

Just curious: how did your group get from Paris to Barcelona?

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Re: AA Flagship Business 787-9 - AKL-LAX, 1A, 1/11/2019

Nice TR, an enjoyable read!

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AMS18C36C

Re: Old Souls-Delta MD-88 Last Flight RIC-ATL

Thanks for a great TR!

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Re: People do not increase travel to War Zones. Will US social unrest further depress air travel?

UA444 wrote:
Turn off CNN

Or any other news outlet for that tmatter? Facebook and other social media should be a no-go zone as well then...

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Re: Will Istanbul Grand Airport overtake ATL for busiest airport?

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turki ... ers-151914

AMS18C36C

Re: 777 - 25 years in commercial service

I've only flown the 777 once, last Summer on a KL 77W. While the 10-abreast was slightly too tight, I do remember it being a smooth ride and the plane wasn't all too loud. The pilot flying executed the smoothest landing I've ever had on a plane. :D The 777 truly was a game changer. It killed off the...

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Re: AMS Allowed to Grow to 540K Movements

That's what I was wondering a as well. Are there any gaping holes in KL's network? Is raising the movement cap to 540k really necessary? AMS is already a well-connected airport.

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Re: "Air Canada anticipates return of worldwide air travel by Christmas" (CBC)

So he's talkin about lifting of travel restrictions I suppose, rather than the public willing to fly (or being able to fly, due to the inevitable economic recession).

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Re: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)

To me the A380 has a limited place, mainly service to strictly capacity controlled airports like LHR and too big for where service frequency more important and had 4 engines. Just imagine if frequency wasn't that important: we would have more A380's flying around, which may have provided a lower ca...

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Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

?? When KL merged with AF, KL was loss making while AF was the single most profitable airline in the world. Exactly. AF saved KLM. Thank you for that. But that doesn't mean AF can just sit back and relax. KLM currently achieves 70% turnover for the entire group, while AF is twice as large as KLM. K...

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Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

f4f3a wrote:
A bit far fetched but what about if KLM bought out virgin ? . Could be interesting

What does VS have to offer KL?

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Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Putting large boxes or any large cargo on the 744 M-clas seats may not even be possible, because the 2 middle armrests cannot be folded entirely upwards. Small boxes could work... Just rip those armrest out, these aircraft will never be used for passengers anyhow. They could rip out every other row...

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Re: Will flying be a luxury from now on?

All in all, I expect air travel to return to about 85-90-ish percent of the previous numbers in late 2020. Flying, therefore, won't be as much a luxury as it was in the 70s. But the numbers of ridiculously low airfares are also numbered. And that is actually a good thing. Firstly, most of these pri...

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Re: Most geographically nonsensical routing?

Just remembered, my friend flew AMS-EWR-CDG to get back to Paris where he was getting his masters. Are you sure he/she was not doing a mileage run? Nope. My friends and I (all of our parents worked for UA at the time) went to Amsterdam for a weekend. And he didn't want to take the bus or train so h...

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Re: Euro carrier state aid news - no 'should they/shouldn't they'

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21L16F

AMS18C36C

Re: LH acquisition of SAS?

Besides all the points mentioned above, isn't the LH Group having trouble getting SN and OS to turn a profit? Don't know if you want to add another airline then.

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Re: FEVER ONBOARD! All Nippon Airways NH178: Tokyo-Narita to Seattle in Y

Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed reading your trip reports!

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Re: BeNeLux Aviation Thread - 2020

According to NOS (Dutch public news), Schiphol will start using 18L/36R (Aalsmeerbaan) as a parking space for planes, most likely starting tomorrow. The runway should be able to handle 25 parked planes.

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Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Is there any more info on the last passenger flight for the 744 at KL?

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Re: KLM retires all 747 by end of March

Also, there is already an existing topic on the phase-out of the KLM 747's. I would have posted it there but figured it's quite a dramatic change of events. I thought this was the existing topic? After all, it is named "KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread". Is there another topic?...

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Re: KLM retires all 747 by end of March

I'm waiting for a reliable source a swell. But considering the current sharp decline in air travel, not very surprising if true.

Also, there is already an existing topic on the phase-out of the KLM 747's.

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AMS18C36C

Re: Seattle-TATL expansion potential (non-U.S. carriers)

You mentioned the Euro-carriers, but don't forget the route AA announced, as well as DL's current route to AMS and announced route to LHR.

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Re: RUMOUR; Ex-Jet Airways 77W’s to find new home.

Could someone elaborate on Indian planes and their maintenance history/record?

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Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread Update: Flybe ceases flying, enters administration

I wouldn’t be surprised if KL starts some new flights to the UK on short notice. To i.e. Southampton FlyBe had 5 flights a day which were mostly full. KL must have recources available due to coronavirus related cancellations. Only if KLM get's their hands on FlyBE slots, otherwise no rooom for expa...

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Re: KLM to get proper premium economy.

Long overdue. I was in a KLM 777 last year, and the 10-abreast was slightly too tight.

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Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Winter 2020

In past threads, the MD82 was Always the bargain plane. What are the current valuations?

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Re: Whose 747’s have you flown?

The only 747 I've flown was the -400 with KLM. Quite enjoyable to board and disembark via air stairs and see the big plane from the ramp.

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Re: Will european airlines ever fly to australia again?

Various posters on this forum have mentioned that these ULH flights are very costly to operate: for a daily frequency you need two or three aircraft, multiple crews and you need to carry lots of fuel. My guess is everyone is watching QF's results on the non-stop flight. If any European carrier were ...

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Re: Pencil Jet Duo: MUC-ORD-SFO feat. Lufthansa & United [Part 2]

Thanks for posting, it was very enjoyable reading! Will you be covering your return trip back to Oslo as well?

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Re: KLM considers A321 order

We had a very recent thread on the KLM 737-replacement. Why a new one?

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Re: Best Option for AMS - ARN

Kepe in mind that if you're going to take the train, there are often engineering works during weekends. The train schedule on the NS-app (Dutch railways) is current within ten days of your journey. Also, full-fare tickets on Dutch trains tend to be expensive. I don't know where in the southeast you'...

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Re: What are KLM 737 replacement options?

KLM has 52 737 NGs, that comes down to 104 737 pilots at KLM. How on earth do you come to this conclusion? I thought: why would KLM have more 737 pilots than the entire 737 fleet? There are 2 seats for the pilots, for the Captain and the First Officer. So I just thought it is 52 x 2. Regarding my A...

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Re: What are KLM 737 replacement options?

BOC aviation leasing just ordered an additional 18 unconfirmed 320neo series. Would be ideal replacement to start with the 73G’s at KLM. KLM has more aircraft already leased from BOC. Could be, but I believe they've also some MAX orders that aren't placed with airlines yet. Discussing the future of...

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Re: Pilot shortage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cognzTud3Wg

AMS18C36C

Re: Smoothest Landings?

The smoothest I'v ehad was a KL 77W from AMS to YVR last summer: hardly felt the wheels touch the runway.

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Re: Should I dress up for flying on my trip?

I will usually wear something that looks okay and is comfortable: jeans and a sweater. In my experience, aircraft cabins tend to be on the cold side, so that prevents me from getting (a) cold.

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Re: New cabin, new terminal, old livery: RDU-EWR and LGA-IAD-FRA on UA

Thanks for sharing, and it was an enjoyable read!

[quote="lugie"]
A quick drink and snack service was performed (I got the famous stroopwaffel this time) :/

The stroopwafel is a Dutch snack. You can get them in the supermarket over here.

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Re: Air Canada's 777 and zig-zagging down the East Coast: FRA-YYZ-LGA-RDU

gjunnar wrote:
I just like your TRs, very elaborate, well written, good pictures. Keep em comin

Agreed!

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Re: Only 13yrs service now decomissioned VS A346

If the A346 cannot be generate a profit when utilized within the existing VS network, then it is time for it to go regardless of the age. Gone are the days when airlines will indefinitely hang onto unprofitable fleet types for purely vanity reasons. VS are well on their way to becoming a much more ...

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