Re: Washington State Aviation - 2024

coolfish1103 wrote:

Overthecascades wrote:

They’re betting on vfr traffic to and from mainland China

China?

The loading to China from Taiwan is quite low these days... and destinations are also limited.

Re: Washington State Aviation - 2024

Wow! That’ll make for a peak of 25 weekly SEA-TPE flights this summer up from 7 in S23, mind-boggling. Interesting that they chose the same flight numbers of 21/22 as JX for this route too, I wonder if that was intentional. SEA will also be markedly more A350-heavy this summer, between CI, JX, AY, ...

Re: Washington State Aviation - 2024

Some Hainan news, now that China/US frequencies have been expanded again. HU will resume PEK-SEA-PEK flights from 4/2. Initially 3x weekly, until 5/9 when one frequency is moved to start Chongqing CKG-SEA 1x weekly! HU will continue it's existing 3x weekly PEK-BOS-SEA-PEK flight. All pending typica...

Re: Rumor: AA to open crew base in SEA

I hope AA brings back SEA LHR. SEA PVG too.

Re: Chinese carriers flights to USA now 50x weekly.

My parents had been flying Hainan between SEA and China and loved everything about the airline. Hope they return to SEA. Hainan currently flies SEA-PEK...but it's a round-robin flight where the flight is PEK-BOS-SEA-PEK. Thank you! I just did a search on google flights and there’s no nonstop flight...

Re: Chinese carriers flights to USA now 50x weekly.

When will we know more about airlines awarded these frequencies?

Re: Chinese carriers flights to USA now 50x weekly.

My parents had been flying Hainan between SEA and China and loved everything about the airline. Hope they return to SEA.

Re: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion

NameOmitted wrote:

Where was AA considering going from SEA? Aside from India, jumping immediately to ULH would be... optimistic.

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

There will be more US-India flights as more business shift to India. For US-Japan, do note that both Japan and Singapore are experiencing a boom in the financial sector as many international companies quietly moves regional operations from Hong Kong to other locations in Asia, and Tokyo and Singapo...

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

Demand from the airlines? I thought AA’s SEA-LHR was a good idea.

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

AA had announced LAX-PVG — did they ever open up for booking? Why did its attempt at SEA hub fail? Was it due to it’s a OneWorld partner hub (instead of its own)? AA flew LAX-PVG until the pandemic shut down China traffic. AA was the weakest perfomer on the route as UA/DL had more strength, UA had ...

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

Overthecascades wrote:

AA had announced LAX-PVG — did they ever open up for booking? Why did its attempt at SEA hub fail? Was it due to it’s a OneWorld partner hub (instead of its own)?

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

AA had announced LAX-PVG — did they ever open up for booking? Why did its attempt at SEA hub fail? Was it due to it’s a OneWorld partner hub (instead of its own)?

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

The reduced schedules are the result of the bilateral between the two countries, not a reflection on demand. https://onemileatatime.com/news/flights-between-united-states-china-double/ Thanks for confirming. So it’s a reflection of bilateral relationship but does it have to be at the cost of air tr...

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

A major constraint nowadays is the availability (or lack thereof) of Russian/Siberian airspace for aircraft to use. Geographically PEK will be affected but PVG and CAN are not, since the great circle won’t pass Russia anyway. For flights from East Coast to PVG and CAN, they do flew over Russia befo...

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

Is demand really that soft? Current fare seems twice the amount of US-Europe flights which seems to signal that demand is still healthy. The reduced schedules are the result of the bilateral between the two countries, not a reflection on demand. https://onemileatatime.com/news/flights-between-unite...

Re: What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

747WanSui wrote:

A major constraint nowadays is the availability (or lack thereof) of Russian/Siberian airspace for aircraft to use.

What’s the supply prospect of US-China non-stop flights in 2024?

Feels like the supply ramp up has been stagnant since Nov without additional new announcements. Is demand really that soft? Current fare seems twice the amount of US-Europe flights which seems to signal that demand is still healthy. Top search result from US to China with one stop is TK, which was n...

Re: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights

I can’t wait to fly to China (helps if price drops a bit). When will DOT decide?

Re: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights

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fightforlove wrote:

Didn't American Airlines apply for SEA-PEK a year ago or so and got rejected? Is there a possibility AA tries for this route approval again?

Re: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights

AA may not see it as an option to fly DFW-PVG without the ability to overfly Russian Airspace. DL could make it work out of SEA, but maybe they weren’t as successful in China as would be assumed. DL and AA could try from LAX. Traffic from LAX is more than SEA, and flying from LAX, AA can avoid Russ...

Re: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights

UA announced flying daily on SFO PEK & SFO PVG. Others seem to be quiet. Would love to see HU return to SEA.

Re: Hainan Airlines back to SEA?

Wow! Thanks all! Can they fly profitably with only the bellies filled?

Hainan Airlines back to SEA?

Hello! Saw Hainan HU446 (SEA-PVG) a couple times on planefinder. Are these flights back as scheduled and regular flights? Thanks

Re: Washington State Aviation Thread - 2022

Hello! Saw Hainan HU446 (SEA-PVG) a couple times on plane finder. Are these flights back as scheduled and regular flights? Thanks

Re: Chinese characters on aircrafts

I've always wondered this ever since I did fan texturing work to replicate Hainan's and Air China's liveries for flightsim years ago, which involved applying the Chinese script this way. Finally an answer as to why and that it's front-to-back more than it's a case of left from right. Air China is t...

What would be your 2019 Top 5 news of the year?

1. Boeing 737 MAX fiasco
2. WOW air shutting down
3. Beijing Daxing airports opens
4. Airlines vying for Haneda slots after expansion
5. Delta offering bistro food and beverage service on long haul international flights

Your turn!

Re: NW 88 flight back in the day

BravoOne wrote:

Sorry but you will need to be more definitive than what ou have posted so far. Do you think everyone here knows what NW 88 means?

NW 88 flight back in the day

I have an impression that this flight was significant in terms taking the US-China flying to the next level, through the DTW hub and over the North Pole. Is that an exaggeration? Wanted to ask here since no answer on the general forum. Thx.

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Interesting article in the Seattle Times today: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/the-search-for-a-second-airport-to-ease-crowds-at-sea-tac-has-kicked-off-again-what-do-you-want-to-know/ Apparently they're trying to choose a location for a second Seattle airport over the next 3...

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

How’re JL and CX performing so far?

Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

Awesome to see SQ in SEA. Anyone know how the loads are so far? Turkish Airlines may be on the horizon for SEA. https://www.dailysabah.com/business/2019/08/28/seattle-orlando-las-vegas-on-radar-for-turkish-airlines Now that they are taking deliveries of 787-9's, I'm sure it's a step closer. But I d...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Any new developments on testing the new software by the worldwide pilots invited?

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

So, at last, some progress, but no time line on the ungrounding. Could drag on for months ;( https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-faa-boeing/faa-says-it-will-invite-global-boeing-737-max-pilots-to-simulator-tests-idUSKCN1VC28R FAA says it will invite global Boeing 737 MAX pilots to ...

Re: Masters in Aviation Management---confusion which college?

I’d Recommend an MBA and then in summer get an internship with an airline or airport management company. Look at your target companies campus recruiting and see which mba school they go to each year.

Re: Air China (CA) announces new PKX (Beijing Daxing Airport) routes

This is nowhere near 10%. They must announce more in the future

Re: New Greater Seattle Airport

How do we make existing seatac airport more capable? Can we relocate anything to make room?

Re: Can Singapore Airlines Start SIN-YVR With 787-10 or does it need A350-900 like YVR-SEA

Untrue. Both Hainan Airlines and Xiamen Airlines serve SEA. -Sea-Tac has only one Chinese carrier at the moment, Hainan, whereas U.S. carriers have given up on India. Emirates and SQ can handle a lot of the high-yielding corporate demand fuelled by the tech industry, whereas YVR is flooded with Chin...

Re: Thailand seeks new ICAO safety audit, hope to regain U.S Cat-1 safety rating

I still find it strange that a smaller airline like PR flies to the US and Canada and make its Transpacific routes work (even if at a loss, although historically this wasn't the case, only in more recent years), while apart from SQ, even large Southeast Asian airlines like MH, TG, GI, or VN can't m...

Re: SEA congestion INTL arrivals

Dublin has preclearance like Canada. How about having that in Japan and UK? I know it won’t be easy but what does it take?

Re: JAL returns to SEA

What was the years when JL served SEA and its flight numbers were 27/28 as indicated above? Wouldn’t it be nice to use that again for the resumes flight in 2019?

Re: Boise, Idaho (BOI) 2018 numbers

I’m part of that 3.87M! Sorry did it say what the largest destinations are? Thx.

Re: CAAC unveils slots allocation/airline distribution for Beijing’s upcoming PEK/ZBAD dual-hub system

Can someone please refresh our memory on the future of “one route one carrier” policy here? I think the new rule is route (tier 1, 2, etc) dependent but could be wrong.

Re: China Aviation Thread 2019

Hi qf789, I wonder if you have a list of mainland airports accessible by HSR-- Chinese or English (perhaps better given this is airliners.net) would be fine. Much appreciated! List (based on impressions, going to be incomplete, appreciate improvement): Airports in ()s are either unfinished or have ...

Re: PEK celebrating 100M pax milestone today on Dec 28th

Thx for the walk down the memory lane

Re: Paris saw sudden spike in connectivity with secondary cities in China

I think "村村通” means connecting to every smallville from that said airport, basically village to that big city instead of village to village. It’s a nice one

Re: Routing of non-stop flights Europe-Hong Kong during the 1980s

The non stop flights took a southerly route avoiding Chinese airspace and I'm assuming over Vietnam and the former indo China countries but the flight time was approximately 12 hours non stop so the flights must have gone very close to the Chinese airspace at times but obviously avoiding it. The Ch...

Re: Oneworld adds Royal Air Maroc as its newest member

What makes a Comnect member vs. otherwise, other than Commect tend to be regional and less reach? https://www.oneworld.com/oneworld-connect Essentially oneworld connect members offer priority check-in and priority boarding to all member airlines and vice versa. Lounge access, frequent flyer mile ac...

Re: Oneworld adds Royal Air Maroc as its newest member

What makes a Comnect member vs. otherwise, other than Commect tend to be regional and less reach?

Re: Alaska considering joining OW

Great news for JL and CX. Will solidify position of AA in the PNW too.