I’d say maybe US.
incitatus wrote:How can the stake in Azul have an influence in the Avianca - United relationship in the future?
gsg013 wrote:You really think AA will redesign their product which has the nice AA first class and lie flat business product on the A32T?
Deferring the MAXs. This tells me that AA is getting nervous about the economy and may be scaling back new narrowbody fleet acquisitions in favor of holding onto what's owned a bit longer. they would be taking 100 MAX and 100 NEO in a span of two years. deferring 40 of the MAX by a few years isn't ...Jump to post
if AA will be putting 788s on old 767 routes, that would be a *massive* product improvement on PHL-AMS/BUD/LIS/PRG/ZRH, MIA-LIM/MVD/COR and routes like that. and maybe even JFK-CDG/MAD can finally get something decent!Jump to post
You’re probably right, but when the JV is finalised and codesharing is in place, CLT might be a runner. EI are definitely keeping their codeshare with B6, their CEO has said as much. No mention of continuing the UA codeshare, which would seem unlikely. I’d be shocked if EI didn’t tap into AA’s seco...Jump to post
While that would be great to see, AA has already said their strategy does not include flights that do not touch a hub. As of "today" LHR is not considered a hub. But as we all have learned in this business, "never" doesn't exist. The last time I checked, RDU isn't an AA hub, eit...Jump to post
I think EI on a 321LR is very likely since they’ve launched PHL and MIA within the last 6 months as they prepare to enter the JV with AA, BA etc. They’ve 12 321LR on order, the last 4 of which are 757 replacements. There’s only so many airports within the range of those 8 extra airframes. There mus...Jump to post
two things: 1. i see little reason for AA to drop PIT. it does pretty well and generally goes out full 2. india indeed dominates china. AA and DL send tons of people on their TATL flights, and UA/B6 send a lot of connects through their partners too. at least on AA, china traffic isn’t overwhelmingly...Jump to post
For such ULR routes like this I don't think you can count a lot on connections as passengers can almost always connect via other hubs on flights that does not need so much fuel to lift those fuel during early stage of one of those flights, thus ULR connections will cost airlines more over regular c...Jump to post
prchan wrote:And this comes with the reduction of frequencies on the LAX-GRU route (from daily to 4x weekly)
why do people think AA will be unsuccessful on LAX-EZE, a route with a strong market and where AA is really strong on both ends. they're very successful on EZE, why would an LAX route (that's only 3x weekly!) not be the same?
oh wait, you guys just like to be negative about everything
If American retreats at CNF, LATAM will have difficulty making the market work. Azul will just crush them if they try. Let‘s see how Delta reacts at GIG. At this point, DL could go year-round to JFK and launch MCO, driving LATAM away from the Rio-US market entirely. highly doubt DL will go year rou...Jump to post
Overall yes, SIN is a better connecting point for S. America than it is for many other places, but even then it is longer than stopping through LAX or LHR. Transiting in the US is a nightmare, no airside transfer and customs queues. And visa required for most South Americans... and many south ameri...Jump to post
I think its a good way to make DFW-EZE unprofitable. I honestly think youll take one profitable flight and make two unprofitable flights with this move, but time will tell and Im happy to be proven wrong. they did this with GRU, everyone thought the same thing, and the two flights have coexisted ju...Jump to post
MIA COR is way overdue, LAX EZE makes no sense to me. LAXEZE is a massive local market although yeah I think a surprising add. I think its a good way to make DFW-EZE unprofitable. I honestly think youll take one profitable flight and make two unprofitable flights with this move, but time will tell ...Jump to post
Y'all are thinking BIG. What if they're only planning to launch an RJ flight to Ensenada, MX or something of that sort? well, they announced LAX-EZE so yes, we were right in thinking big. they also did announce DFW-OAX and some other Mexico increases. http://news.aa.com/press-releases/press-release...Jump to post
AA isn't starting BOS/DCA-SFO any time soon, especially not on the 757.
JFK-SEA/SAN/PHX will likely be the starters. can see BOS/MIA-LAX as said above as well. DCA-LAX would be a nice strike back at DL.
Everyone here is focusing on Asia and South America, but what about Europe? There must be plenty of European destinations that were never served by an American airline from Los Angeles. It could just be Berlin Tegel. So far there aren't any flights between Los Angeles and Berlin, so there's a hole ...Jump to post
definitely CX, who I'm surprised you didn't mention. I'm kind of shocked they went for IAD before SEAJump to post
I will go with GRU too. ORD, IAH, and YYZ all sound like good ideas, but I'm sticking with it!
honestly still a bit surprising there is no SQ presence in Canada. is this a bilateral thing? surely they could fly YVR with their current fleet?
don't understand anet's obsession with AA having to throw all their eggs at ~100 departure JFK when they have a ~400 departure hub at PHL with a much wider range of connections. AA at JFK has the O&D routes that can be filled profitably without much feed. they're not going to cut EZE/GRU/GIG/LHR...Jump to post
Does non-hub flying include scrapping LHR-RDU and letting someone else have the corporate contract? this will absolutely not happen. the route is doing very well on the 772, even during the slow months. summer should see it packed almost everyday. DL has been performing well on their RDU-CDG, so I ...Jump to post
UpNAWAy wrote:Everyone has gotten this one pretty much. I would add that most of AA growth the next few years will likely be at DFW or PHL. AA;s biggest issue at DFW is terminal space and configuration.
I'm sure DFW will come back. surprised EK hasn't tried to capitalize on EY's exit, and I think QR is going to stick it out at DFW. while they don't codeshare with AA anymore, I'm sure they'll continue interlining since they're both oneworld. but QR is evening and EK is morning, I see room for bothJump to post
consolidating at VVI is a fairly smart move. LPB is of course the main market, but it's impressive that AA has stayed in the market as long as they have, with the operational issues.
if AA is going 737MAX to LIM, UIO, etc I hope they add frequency, like they did with BOG.
Im not seeing the demand for Central America or Colombia but I fully expect AA to add PHL to MEX, PAP, KIN, POS as well as additional frequency to SDQ over the next few years. PHL has the demographics to make these flights work... I don't see any of those happening besides MEX. markets are tiny. PA...Jump to post
what a ridiculous thread this is. AA has plenty of share at LGA and it will remain that way. their investments in the flagship lounges, transcon services, and improved LHR service from JFK balk at this insanity
AA/DL coexist fine at LGA. that's not going to change.
I could see this once they receive their A321LR's, which will free up some A330s. this is likely. plus hopefully by then, they'll be partnered with AA Recent talk is that they’re sticking with the UA partnership and not joining the BA/AA joint venture. highly unlikely Willie Walsh will continue to ...Jump to post
What about DFW-TLV? That might work, because there is a large Jewish population in the Dallas area. And no one has ever flown DFW-TLV nonstop. But it won't be the first route to TLV American will launch. First would be PHL, as pointed above since no airline has yet ever flown PHL-TLV nonstop, or ma...Jump to post
DFWandOMA wrote:737max8 wrote:Really wish they would bring the A330s to DFW! There has to be some demand for DFW-DUB?
I could see this once they receive their A321LR's, which will free up some A330s.
IB is making a tear latelyJump to post
MAD deserves a mention in this thread as an “outside the big 4” mention. Terminal 4 is pretty incredible.
if AA/AS can codeshare on that PHX route, that’s a brilliant strategyJump to post
EK will give tough competition to european carriers like AF in the connection traffic to Asia from SCL, not to mention the US airlines and even QF. US airlines never stood a chance on Asia-South America to begin with because nobody has the patience to go through US customs just to connect back out ...Jump to post
RDU-PHX for AA is a logical add. good frequency to SAN and SJC, two markets which no one seems daring enough to jump in nonstop for whatever reason. let alone the countless other smaller markets that would now have better frequency/positioning than DFW and CLT can provide. I could see frequencies/up...Jump to post
why would they announce this so far in advance? this is like QR announcing LAS
what's the advantage going to be over UA? timing?
who knows how legitimate this actually is but the vast majority of US-MXP demand is from JFK and MIA. how these money-is-not-an-obstacle airlines are starting all these routes is a bit mindbogglingJump to post
.Down scaling from 777-200ER to 787-9 is a good idea in a declining market. Asia is still booming and TATL also 4% / yr, additional frequencies aren't for free at all. I hate to burst your bubble, but the average capacity per flight on transpacific flights has been steadily decreasing over the past...Jump to post
Isnt AA down to LHR only from ORD?? They have some bigger problems than gate contracts CDG, FCO, BCN, VCE, DUB, MAN are seasonal europe routes. NRT, PEK, PVG are year round asia routes. i think their presence is just fine. IB serves MAD out of the AA terminal and AY does HEL as well. i’d say OW’s p...Jump to post
The busiest airport in the world is without power, this is going to cause a massive disruption. Would be the same if this was UA/AA/BA/EK etc or IAH/EWR/DFW/DXB/LHR etc. Humorous to read some commentary. If you don't want to connect through Atlanta, you have plenty of other options. BA/LHR and EK/D...Jump to post
It will cost them a lot more though between fare class remappings and a more expensive special prorate agreement. As others have stated, I doubt we see this route in 2019 The belly does well. Don't count the route out! People have been saying this route is going to end before it even started and it...Jump to post
Does that mean AA is losing WestJet? What about WestJet's relationship to other OW's partners such as BA and QF? The AA-WS relationship was recently trimmed back, likely in anticipation of this DL deal. yikes. Wonder what AA will do (or more likely,won’t) do in Canada now. AA announced a lot of can...Jump to post