Like I have predicted it seems there will not be a "797" and looks like Boeing is slowly coming to the same conclusion. They have the numbers and they know that their every action has a reaction from the competitition. They must shudder at the thought of what a single aisle A321neo and A32...Jump to post
The US/SA symbiosis make this order a foregone conclusion.Jump to post
You are living in fantasy land. Look who's talking. Airbus, RR and EK did their damnedest in the recession-free 2014-6 economic time frame to make a NEO happen, but the business case just wasn't there. Now you are making up facts from thin air. While EK was vocal Airbus never said or promised anyth...Jump to post
We know Airbus runs the line to produce A380’s at a loss. Taking on an incremental order doesn’t make a lot of sense. It just means losing more money. You have no clue about how many orders Airbus has in the pipeline. You have no clue about possible production rates if these orders materialise. You...Jump to post
MSNfan wrote:Here is an apparent video of the incident itself...Ouch!
I still believe there won't be any MOM. There is no business case. In addition to thinking about possible MOM sales Boeing needs to think what kind of response it will trigger from Airbus. From what has been floated so far there doesn't seem to be a design that wouldn't be severely hurt by a re-wing...Jump to post
trpmb6 wrote:You'll be hard pressed to find someone who wants to sit in a single aisle for 10+ hours. I know I'm not one of them.
Well the market didn't like that idea since the AY stock has divebombed around 8% today.Jump to post
travelhound wrote:At the end of the day the 777X and A350 are competing against an aircraft that is punching above its weight.
I agree with you 100%! Interest must be very high due to the A350-1000 exceeding expectations. Only thing that will likely hold back orders is the fact that the global 77W fleet is still young, fuel prices are still relatively manageable and the A350 backlog and production ramp-up. After 2020 thoug...Jump to post
Siddar wrote:Then you would have to replace all of the manufactured goods some of witch only come from the US.
How can it be called A321anything if the fuselage is longer.Jump to post
Unfortunate news. Hopefully it's not start of a trend. The 777X is VLA and as has been seen their market is not exactly rosy. Perhaps BA or some other airline can step in claim the slots. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-etihad-airways-boeing-exclusive/exclusive-etihad-airways-in-talks-to-cancel-d...Jump to post
There was a thread here just a few days ago where some part-out specialists were sceptical about the A380. Then this happens. Too bad Aviation Week and it's affiliates so often get it wrong on the A380. Wonder why. Also from Reuters: Dr Peters said the deal would yield a positive return for investor...Jump to post
Must have been asked before but the fading grey cells do not remember . . . Do we have any idea on the weight penalty? And if it's optional? If so, would Boeing charge a premium? As noted, folding wingtips are standard. Daniel Tsang at Aspire Aviation noted the weight of the wingtips will be 800 po...Jump to post
Airbus should try harder to broaden the program customer appeal. It is obviously very clear that the program is now running mainly for one single customer only, however it certainly helps to ring up top up orders from other customers as well. As for IAG, the A380 does have its place primarily at BA...Jump to post
Translation: BA- We want them at Emirates pricing. Airbus- To get that you will have to order more than 10. I would think from an AB prospective 10 is better than none even at Emirates pricing. From well-informed members posts regarding BA`s need for more A380`s why would both parties miss an oppor...Jump to post
In that respect, advanced electronics are more expensive than before. This has to be one of the most ridiculous statement I've read on this forum and would not be made if one had payed attention for the the last 20 years. On absolute terms electronics have gotten cheaper and when you factor in that...Jump to post
FAA also approved 787 battery system.Jump to post
Another predatory pricing deal for Boeing?Jump to post
Sure. Whatever you say. Shall we queue up a DeHavilland Comet for you, then? Meant more the alternatives which are around today. I fly an awful lot and if I can avoid the 787, I’ll do. Sorry to hurt your feelings but that’s just my opinion. Lack of power choices is always an issue. :checkmark: Then...Jump to post
Crappy livery on an ugly plane.Jump to post
As an AY shareholder I hope the next time you get caught for vandalizing their aircraft.Jump to post
It seems the predictions to what will be cancelled and what will be kept are based on fanboyism towards ones chosen manufacturer. Almost like "analysis" at few blogs out there.Jump to post
On BA ordering additional A380-800[/b]: I have it on what I consider good authority that one of the reasons BA went for the A388 over the 747-8 was the deal offered to them by Airbus and, especially, Rolls-Royce. As such, I do not think BA needs to do any arm-twisting to get a fantastic deal on mor...Jump to post
"We have had very constructive dialogue with Boeing on wide-body aircraft. We will be meeting them in the next few days,"
British Airways close to ordering Boeing Widebodies
Nobody cares about what orders were like 6-9 years ago. Most have those have been fulfilled (by both Airbus and Boeing) and are just history at this point. They care about what orders are like now. What is significant is that the 787 was posting negative sales during the boom years in widebody orde...Jump to post
Let's see if this thread can make the 24 hour mark before someone says. "yeah, but deferred production cost"... How ironic considering your history with the Superjumbo, the A400M and their respective financials. Boeing dearly needs every order it can get to get out of the hole but unfortu...Jump to post
What's the problem here? Venezuela can do whatever it likes. So does AA and every other airline. If AA continues to fly there I guess they see a point in doing so. In the end it's a business decision if it's worth it.Jump to post
So how many billions is the 787 deferred cost now? 25? 30?Jump to post
What would the 787 offer that the A330neo would not? Nothing. Both would be configured at 9-abreast so there would be virtually no CASM advantage for the 787. Air Asia X is an LCC so customer comfort is secondary. Heck so called traditional carriers are flying 9-abreast 787's and 10-abreast 777's wh...Jump to post
IF you can fill it, it’s a money maker up to 10hrs or so....beyond that it in EK service it merely covers costs, as been confirmed numerous times to me, and it’s why there are more 777s than 380s in service at EK and across the planet. "If you can fill it" is a red herring that applies eq...Jump to post
And yet Singapore Airlines and SCOOT can fit 18" seats into their 787s at 3x3x3 despite Boeing's villainy... :scratchchin: Non sequitur. What is the armrest width? What is the aisle width? Something always gives when you travel with Boeing comfort standards. Mind you I never had any problems f...Jump to post
And depending on the size of these new engines, the optimum diameter might be greater than what the A321's clearance can handle. It would be somewhat ironic / karmic if Airbus finds themselves in the same position with GTF2 and UF with what Boeing found themselves with GTF1 and LEAP-X. I think Airb...Jump to post
Congrats to AA and Boeing. The A330Neo is a bust. Airbus should cut their losses while ahead. Is Boeing selling its aircraft at a loss to make sales? :box: :praise: :stirthepot: Well apparently Boeing made HA an offer Airbus would not be willing to compete on anymore. Don't know if that's the case ...Jump to post
The last two paragraphs of the article imply that the -800neo is still in the running as 767 replacements, however unlikely that may be. Very unlikely, I imagine. Especially if NMA is also in play. In this case the price has to be low enough to compensate the cancellation fees if the A350 is being ...Jump to post
PlanesNTrains wrote:WIederling wrote:PlanesNTrains wrote:
It means “sour grapes”.
It means that Boeing has sacrificed lots of revenue in trying to kill the A330NEO.
Will be interesting to see how often they are willing to do that.
As I said - sour grapes.