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by DeltaRules
Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

Anyone know why the F9 CMH-SAT inaugural is showing as cancelled? Lack of interest? A quick search on F9's website of fares on the CMH-SAT route showed everything still at $25 o/w, including for the inaugural. Unless things change quickly, I don't think the route is long for this world. I meant can...

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by DeltaRules
Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

Anyone know why the F9 CMH-SAT inaugural is showing as cancelled?

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by DeltaRules
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

F9's starting CMH-PBI 11/16/18. Good catch! I had not seen that. Did DL run some sort of PBI flight at one time way back? That's one of the few remaining Florida dots to connect, other than JAX. DL ran CMH-PBI seasonally for one winter just before the end of the focus city, so like 2007 or 2008. It...

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by DeltaRules
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

F9's starting CMH-PBI 11/16/18.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension
Replies: 90
Views: 12204

Re: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension

AA CMH-LAX DEC 1.1>2[0.8] JAN 1.0>2[0.6] FEB 1.0>2[0.7] MAR 1.0>2[0.8] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[1.0] AA LAX-MSY DEC 1.1>2[0.9] JAN 1.0>2[1.0] FEB 1.0>2[1.0] MAR 1.0>2[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[1.0] Looks like AA is trying to lock up some TCON markets, IND-LAX went 2x daily as well. Probably try...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

From this week's OAG thread, AA's CMH-LAX will stay double-daily through at least May, while DL drops CAK-DTW in December.

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by DeltaRules
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

Useless trivia for the day- I know in various threads there's been some debate as to whether or not DL considered CMH a Focus City. I found a winter 2005 CRAA newsletter where it recaps 2004 and has the official confirmation that they had the title as of September 2004. It's also amazing to see how ...

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by DeltaRules
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DCA to the world
Replies: 65
Views: 6033

Re: DCA to the world

I have a few questions regarding DCA and its status as an AA Hub DCA currently doesn't have CBP services and any intl carriers that serve it pre clear their customers. DCA also has well known range limits. Up until recently DL operated a 757 DCA-ATL-BSB(Brasilia) and return, offering a Capitol to C...

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by DeltaRules
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

The route announcements have slowed down recently at CVG (Rightfully so as we are almost passed the peak summer travel season). What airline or route could we see be announced next at CVG? G4/F9 are pulling back at the moment, so we will not be seeing much more growth from them. DL will probably no...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

Gonna be quite a bit of AA mainline metal on the ground in the mornings in November as, in addition to CLT getting a 319, CMH-LAX goes double-daily: AA 2079 6:25am A319 AA 2102 4:25pm A319 DL has done this in the past, but I can't remember AA doing it. It starts early in the month (at least 11/5), s...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/5/2018:AA Adds DFW-CYS/EYW,Drops BOS-PIT,JFK-DEN;AS Drops SFO-IND;DL Loads MSP-ICN;UA Suspends EWR-OKC
Replies: 127
Views: 13505

Re: OAG Changes 8/5/2018:AA Adds DFW-CYS/EYW,Drops BOS-PIT,JFK-DEN;AS Drops SFO-IND;DL Loads MSP-ICN;UA Suspends EWR-OKC

AA CMH-LAX going double-daily in November is new. DL has done this in the past, but I believe this is the first time AA has tried it.

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by DeltaRules
Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1324
Views: 107567

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

http://www.dispatch.com/business/201808 ... eaded-down

It's noteworthy that G4's fares don't count toward CMH's total because of the split operation at LCK.
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CMH's average fares are trending downward thanks, in part, to ULCCs: http://www.dispatch.com/business/201808 ... eaded-down

It's noteworthy that G4's fares don't count toward CMH's total because of the split operation at LCK.

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by DeltaRules
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

2Q PDEW for BOS: IND- 671 CMH- 610 CVG- 437 Can't believe CVG is that low. CVG is the one out of the 3 where the BOS is a monopoly, WN serves IND/CMH-BOS, and for that matter, both DL and WN serve MKE/MCI-BOS as well. I am sure another carrier on CVG-BOS would equalize the PDEW numbers between CVG ...

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by DeltaRules
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to start BOS-MSP 3xday on May 3 2018
Replies: 119
Views: 13494

Re: JetBlue to start BOS-MSP 3xday on May 3 2018

It would be interesting to see CMH, especially since they are yet another station that B6 would actually be "returning" to as opposed to starting new service. BNA and ATL are also such stations. The feeling from some in the Ohio thread was that the B6 ship may have sailed when WN hopped o...

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by DeltaRules
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Well I mean to be fair, MSP-BOS is 2x the size of the CMH-BOS market... Either way CMH or CVG on B6 is probably on the way... 2Q PDEW for BOS: IND- 671 CMH- 610 CVG- 437 Can't believe CVG is that low. Where did you get those numbers? https://www.transportation.gov/policy/aviation-policy/domestic-ai...

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by DeltaRules
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

B6 announced MSP today, apparently there are 3 more cities being announced for next year, I would think at least one of CVG/IND/CMH would get service. I would think any of these would be in play. I guess CMH might have a chance again with DL and WN on the route if they're willing to try MSP with DL...

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by DeltaRules
Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to start BOS-MSP 3xday on May 3 2018
Replies: 119
Views: 13494

Re: JetBlue to start BOS-MSP 3xday on May 3 2018

Hmm, MCI, STL, CVG? STL, IND, CMH in that order if we are going by PDEW to BOS... It would be interesting to see CMH, especially since they are yet another station that B6 would actually be "returning" to as opposed to starting new service. BNA and ATL are also such stations. The feeling ...

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by DeltaRules
Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

B6 announced MSP today, apparently there are 3 more cities being announced for next year, I would think at least one of CVG/IND/CMH would get service. I would think any of these would be in play. I guess CMH might have a chance again with DL and WN on the route if they're willing to try MSP with DL...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Had a chat with an DL employee at CMH and they indicated local station management is wanting/trying to get SEA and CDG service to CMH. I think SEA is likely but worry what that would do to MSP and LAX service (I think LAX is why CMH lost SLC service by the way). CDG really can't happen until the ne...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA/B6 Merger Rumors Floating Again
Replies: 101
Views: 16487

Re: UA/B6 Merger Rumors Floating Again

"Acquiring a troublesome new challenger" and "eliminat[ing] one source of growing price pressure across the industry" aren't exactly aims DOJ is likely to support.n and out of NYC). They weren't bothered by letting WN pare down its prey's biggest hub and dump ~90 of its airplane...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Some more fodder to add to the concept of international service from CMH: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2017/10/09/mid-sized-cities-including-columbus-are-seeing-big.html While the growth is large, it'd be interesting to see where that percentage is being extracted from. AC Express goin...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

papatango wrote:
Anything new on the rumored CMH international announcement?


I'm going to give it a week or two and reach out to my source. She got OneJet right so, between that and all the other smoke we've seen about AMS, I'm guessing we're just waiting to see the fire.

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by DeltaRules
Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

While they're welcome, One Jet doesn't begin to solve the somewhat woeful roster of non-stop destinations from CMH. Define "woeful". If you take the Top 40 MSAs (and I'm using that as a simple metric of population) in the US, here's the list of the unserved from CMH: 13) ONT. Is there muc...

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by DeltaRules
Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

So new flights from CMH to MKE is the big announcement we have been waiting for? This was separate from rumored TATL and was the "underwhelming" announcement DeltaRules had mentioned. Per the article, Columbus is in the running for a 3rd OneJet base. I'd take that. Link: https://www.bizjo...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

CMHSRQ wrote:
Looks like OneJet is starting CMH-MKE. I presume this is the lackluster new service announcement that was discussed earlier.


Where did you see this? I'll take it. They're a fascinating little company and it makes sense, though WN picking up that route someday wouldn't surprise me either.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Southwest is running a 738Max today MCO-CMH on WN 2561.

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by DeltaRules
Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

DL had an A321 at C50 tonight, which I believe is the debut of their 321 at CMH. Sometimes I think the BOD of the CRAA talk just to hear themselves talk. They've been telling us about their quest for TATL for decades with nothing to show for it. Wake me when you have an agreement and something to an...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

The second DL CMH-LGA flight tomorrow will run on an A320, which is the first time I can remember mainline on the route.

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by DeltaRules
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Meeting minutes for the August CRAA have posted. Of note, the minutes specifically state, "One important focus area is international air service. While London service on British Airways has been a key European target for many years, we are also pursuing other European hubs such as Paris and Am...

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by DeltaRules
Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 516
Views: 58581

Re: DL Future Expansion

http://columbusairports.com/files/about ... -22-17.pdf

A new contact I've made recently with connections to CRAA says there's probably more to this than flowery "Oh, wouldn't that be nice?" language.
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Keep an eye on CMH.

http://columbusairports.com/files/about ... -22-17.pdf

A new contact I've made recently with connections to CRAA says there's probably more to this than flowery "Oh, wouldn't that be nice?" language.

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by DeltaRules
Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Meeting minutes for the August CRAA have posted. Of note, the minutes specifically state, "One important focus area is international air service. While London service on British Airways has been a key European target for many years, we are also pursuing other European hubs such as Paris and Am...

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by DeltaRules
Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

greenair727 wrote:
^Hopefully not more Florida!


I don't care what it is as long as it's air service and not a 5k. (It sounds like it is, indeed, air service but "underwhelming" in comparison to potential TATL.)

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by DeltaRules
Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Apparently there will be an announcement of some sort at CMH next week but it won't be the potential TATL, at least yet. My contact won't even clue me in on what it is.

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by DeltaRules
Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

An informed birdie tells me a TATL announcement at CMH could be "imminent". edit- Heavily edited this post because there's no indication as to who, but their gut feel ties to the rumor from APC. Wasn't the AA-LHR Midwest city rumor on FT? Or is this a different rumor? This is believed to ...

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by DeltaRules
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

An informed birdie tells me a TATL announcement at CMH could be "imminent".

edit- Heavily edited this post because there's no indication as to who, but their gut feel ties to the rumor from APC.

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by DeltaRules
Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Just checked in at CMH and had some more time to poke around to the extent of what I could when it comes to facilities which could be used for TATL. -C46 has three new parking lines- 320/737, 757, and 767. -C47's parking line has everything DL uses into/out of CMH with the notable addition of "...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Just checked in at CMH and had some more time to poke around to the extent of what I could when it comes to facilities which could be used for TATL. -C46 has three new parking lines- 320/737, 757, and 767. -C47's parking line has everything DL uses into/out of CMH with the notable addition of "...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 516
Views: 58581

Re: DL Future Expansion

Getting back to the original rumor that DL is possibly going to add up to 6 new AMS-US routes, these are the cities that I see getting DL AMS routes: RDU- because DL loves RDU, and their CDG flight seems to be doing well. AUS- rumor is that it will become a permanent flight. LAS- the Brookings numb...

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by DeltaRules
Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46559

Re: BA's Next US Destination

Was just reading through this thread. Why, oh why, would BA serve Columbus, OH? If we're not talking about BA adding frequencies to existing routes, and only new routes, I'd say CLE, then STL, then MCI. Regarding CMH, CLE is 2x as large in terms of population and in the number of daily travelers to...

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by DeltaRules
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46559

Re: BA's Next US Destination

When will this madness of "BA's next US destination" end? Seriously, BUR? You can blame BA for that for adding places like AUS, BNA, SJC and OAK over other major markets that lack BA flights to LHR kind of puts the seed in people's minds that anything is possible. Makes everyone think any...

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by DeltaRules
Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Few CMH related items: 1) in looking at January schedules noticed something really interesting about UA. NO Mainline at CMH- at all. I know things change closer in, but I do not recall this ever being a thing before. Anyone have some insight? Also, the 2x 738/3x MD80 schedule to DFW has been replac...

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by DeltaRules
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46559

Re: BA's Next US Destination

If the DL focus city TATL thread can be overrun with "Is ATL a good hub?" chat, this thread can go on.

Back on track, I still think any BA-related LHR service to CMH will be operated by AA on a 757. If it works, maybe BA comes to town with a 787-8.

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by DeltaRules
Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

@Midwestindy also note that CMH really has the least desirable terminal and concourse arrangement; I'm sure that is a factor. I know they remodeled; but still, not adequate to attract TATL service. The master plan has in more than a decade a new terminal and concourse built on the site of the Lane ...

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by DeltaRules
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumored DL Focus City TATL Expansion
Replies: 1
Views: 1105

Rumored DL Focus City TATL Expansion

The previous thread started with this: Midwestindy posted this interesting bit of info in the DL add IND-CDG thread. He got it from another forum. Speaking about Delta: "This is a result of Network turning their efforts to "focus" cities. These are cities that are underserved and are ...

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by DeltaRules
Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

What are the odds of Delta starting CMH to AMS service! 0? Sorry, but I don't see the CRAA really making any noticeable strides to attract any new service, domestic or international. The monthly Board of Directors meeting minutes have been quiet regarding increased air service. The JET task force c...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

The T100 data has been updated through June, and international through March CVG numbers are looking healthier MEM-CVG 30.4% XNA-CVG 39.7% BNA-CVG 48.99% EWR-CVG 66.12% BWI-CVG 74.3% BDL-CVG 65.5% MCI-CVG 72.1% STL-CVG 69.11% MKE-CVG 67.9% CDG-CVG 69.5% WN total LF out of CVG for June-67.1% MDW-CVG...

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by DeltaRules
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Regarding all of the recent news about Columbus being a "finalist" in the hyper-loop competition (or whatever it's considered). I read something in local media that made it sound as if the plan would be to build the passenger terminal near Rickenbacker. Now, for the record, I think the wh...

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by DeltaRules
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 516
Views: 58581

Re: DL Future Expansion

I hate to break up the argument about the merits vs. drawbacks of ATL, but is there any updated news/discussion/scuttlebutt/rumbling about the rumored AMS/CDG/LHR adds from P2P focus cities seeing as we're eight days from September 23rd?

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by DeltaRules
Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 2150
Views: 189828

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

In all the talk about CMH and London service, it didn't dawn on me until just now the partnership between DL and VS. Again, I still would figure AA would be the frontrunner, but with the focus city expansion talk...

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