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by Newbiepilot
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WestJet uses 737Max on Alberta to Hawaii
Replies: 4
Views: 1248

Re: WestJet uses 737Max on Alberta to Hawaii

YEG-OGG should be within 737-8 range. It is 2800nm, which is shorter than some routes that the 737MAX flies which are over 3000nm. OGG-YEG may be a problem due to the short runway at OGG.

Next year GOL is planning nonstop flights from Brazil to Florida with the MAX which excees 3200nm.

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I read the same quote differently from you. To me it reads: "Now the question is whether we can make a business case close, because it will have to be an airplane that has widebody efficiencies in terms of moving people on and off the plane but has narrowbody economics (= We have to develop te...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest cancels 100+ flights today
Replies: 51
Views: 10681

Re: Southwest cancels 100+ flights today

Southwest operates shorter flights than most other early 737NG operators. They tend to have high cycle numbers compared to other airlines. UA, DL, AA and AS all have 737s flying transcons as well as shorter flights.

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Lets assume for a minute there is isn't technological breakthrough that makes it possible to price a widebody like a narrowbody, but that a small widebody will be priced at the cost of a small widebody. Stranger things have happened.. Probably airlines will stay be willing to pay value for money. B...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How do airlines move equipment to new cities?
Replies: 25
Views: 4069

Re: How do airlines move equipment to new cities?

First off Airlines usually contract out ground handling at new stations. They typically start small and will use other companies to service the airplanes. They won’t need tugs, belt loaders, etc. If the airline starts a brand new station up with their own equipment, it is a multi month effort. Equip...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India 787 - Window panel falls out in turbulance
Replies: 36
Views: 8266

Re: Air India 787 - Window panel falls out in turbulance

It sounds a LOT worse than it really is. the interior panel is pretty much decorative and it can be reinstalled in minutes. We've had passengers freak out because there is a small drilled hole in the reveal (sidewall) window. Once we explained it to them? They were cool. but we also had people try ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANC-NRT feasibility on A321LR by AS/VX?
Replies: 77
Views: 7658

Re: ANC-NRT feasibility on A321LR by AS/VX?

I think it requires aircraft one step up from the A321LR/757 category. Boeings NMA would probably do ok in terms of range. But cargo is not unimportant at all. http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1365577 Cargo is important but there are already about 5 widebody freighters a day including...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India 787 - Window panel falls out in turbulance
Replies: 36
Views: 8266

Re: Air India 787 - Window panel falls out in turbulance

I fly this route quite often. Its barely 1 hour long (the longest that I have experienced is 1:45 hours, because of bad weather). I honestly never experienced turbulence even once. I seriously wonder where could such extreme turbulence come from on this route. Its entirely above plain fertile land....

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

That's sound pretty disconnected from reality if you read Muilenburgs quote below. Thats the denial I meant. Did you care to listen to Muilenburgs interview? I extracted the relevant quote word for word for you: Boeing CEO, Dennis Muilenburg, April 12, 2018: "Now the question is whether we can...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

. Boeing CEO, Dennis Muilenburg, April 12, 2018: "Now the question is whether we can make a business case close , because it will have to be an airplane that has widebody efficiencies in terms of moving people on and off the plane but has narrowbody economics (= a moonshot/miracle kind of airc...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model
Replies: 1000
Views: 201010

Re: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model

... I would love to see you do the same type of Analysis and show the same graphics with a 7W NMA Concept - Double Circle - NSA XL type of Concept. You might have already done it though. With a 36" wider LD3-45 in the Belly. I assume a wider AKH variant could be possible, about 36-40inch / 2.4...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Remember the Boeing board need to give "authority to offer", well before a launch. The board will need to see the anticipate pricing, anticipated margin, cost to develop, the manufacturing plan, the worst case predictions of lifetime profitable production, and far more. Authority to offer...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

... In this circumstance, I would expect Boeing to do exhaustive pre-Launch research. Sorry Rheinwaldner, I think this one is just too big a potential success - or alternatively, potentially another massive fiasco al la 787 . If Boeing is checking, double-checking and then checking yet again, then ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 556
Views: 70870

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

The oldest 77E isn't quite 20 years old yet. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon. Then again, after 1998 Boeing gave up with the 767, so it makes sense these early 2000's junks are facing a nearly death. Where do get this? I’d say that is not correct at all. Boeing made a lot of improvemen...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: California Congressman Wants JetBlue's Approach Into LGB Higher and Quieter
Replies: 16
Views: 3088

Re: California Congressman Wants JetBlue's Approach Into LGB Higher and Quieter

speedbird52 wrote:
Looking at the approach plates, they are already 3000 feet five miles from the airfield. Unless they are proposing building an airport in the sky, how much higher can they go?


That would be a descent rate of 6%. That doesn’t sound right.

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:21 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Safety margins on CFM56-5B (A320) vs CFM56-7B (737NG)
Replies: 7
Views: 1519

Re: Safety margins on CFM56-5B (A320) vs CFM56-7B (737NG)

1 in a billion per flight hour is the requirement for probability of a catastrophic failure. Propulsion rules aren’t quite the same as systems, but the logic from FAR 25.1309 still applies. AC 25.1309–1 provides background for important concepts and issues within airplane system design and analysis....

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANC-NRT feasibility on A321LR by AS/VX?
Replies: 77
Views: 7658

Re: ANC-NRT feasibility on A321LR by AS/VX?

Probably an A321LR should be able to do that. I would expect the 737-8 can fly that route as well. Some of the Norwegian Transatlantic 737MAX flights are longer.

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?
Replies: 114
Views: 19941

Re: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?

But the biggest question is why you would see the 787/A350 models delivering evenly? Uhm, dunno.. the A350s bigger backlog? 787 and A350 backlogs are quite similar now. Most likely once some 787 orders are fully booked from Emirates, American, Hawaiian etc, the 787 backlog will exceed the A350, but...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

How is this relatated to Airbus shelving the A320plus? Is the decision on cross section for the NMA so important that Airbus Decided to shelve the A321plus? Airbus has a good idea of what the NMA will be: 220-270 seats in a 2 class configuration with a max range up to 5000nm. Given that information...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austrian Airlines Brand Refresh and New Livery
Replies: 54
Views: 9823

Re: Austrian Airlines Brand Refresh and New Livery

First reaction was "oh no, another Eurowhite scheme" but actually it's not bad! Just plain and cheap. Two color liveries are cheaper than three color liveries that most airlines use. Boeing and Airbus offer three color livery painting for free on new deliveries. Going down to two colors i...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I also have big questionmarks around the avoid shape. The disadvantages seem to richly beat advantages. A generously dimensioned circular fuselage could offer a hybrid NMA twin/single aisle configuration but also cover the much larger 180-220 seat <1500NM segment in a competitive way. Cargo capacit...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I wonder what that says about earlier efforts to optimize the production line for rate and for cost. First it says - that building an airliner is difficult - that building an airliner with good quality is really difficult - that building lots of airliners with good quality is super difficult - that...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

. I think Airbus hopes Boeing goes in with a real capable 797 twin aisle, the bigger and more capable, the better. Keeping pushing around 737s in the enormous <260 seat < 3000Nm segment. Is that why you posted this in the 797 development thread? I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or eve...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I have seen huge projects launched, where nearly any expert just by gut feeling predicted that it would not deliver as promised, and they were proven right after some years. And we've all seen A380... and 787... maybe it's time for a different approach... Companies like Boeing can put 4-5 experts /...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Doing 10% or more work up front to fully close the business case .... And if it does not close? I am sorry, but possibly loosing 1-2 billions just to clarify the business case of a potential project is not how it works. That does, once more, not pass the smell test. I suspect they are 95% confident...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

For example will the plane have 45K or 50K engines? What engine manufacturer or manufacturers will be chosen? How many spoilers will there be 10, 12, 18...? Will wingtips fold? How many tires and axles? What structure will be composote vs aluminum vs titanium vs steel? If the business case is not c...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

if the business case was not a clear case in all the years since Boeing talks about the 757RS/MOM/NMA, what variable could change that in the next year? The design has matured enough to the point where they are ready to contractually commit on price, delivery date, performance numbers and capabilit...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or even more for NMA. IMO that risks building an aircraft that is way to heavy to be competitive on the bulk of flights. I think it should be optimized, or at least be very efficient for flights of around 2hrs / 1000NM. If that is where the product is ...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenberg defines MOM aircraft at a Politico Space event last week in Washington DC Check out the video half way down the page at about 24:00 https://www.geekwire.com/2018/boeing-ceo-dennis-muilenburg-mars-decade/ He says that a decision is due within one year. And that the quest...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2263
Views: 282377

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Thinking about it, United will probably go for dual source. A321s to fill in short 757/767 retirements and NMA after 2025, because it's higher capacity seems a very good fit for the America's. Delta & AA no different. United is different from American and Delta. United ordered 100 737-10s. Amer...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 54
Views: 9871

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

DL’s business class cabins seem to be shrinking in number of seats. UA’s business class on the 787-10 is relatively large in comparison. Does UA sell or giveaway (ie, upgrades) more J seats than DL? Or is this a multi-year transition now that F is going away, leading UA to eventually go to a smalle...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 54
Views: 9871

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified. https://media1.ausbt.com.au/1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 54
Views: 9871

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url] https://media3.ausbt.com.au/1500,1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 54
Views: 9871

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url] https://media3.ausbt.com.au/1500,1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I would very much suspect nothing is shelved anyway. Folks reading too much into some fairly woolly statements. :checkmark: I think the statements are more saying what disadvantaged customers want to hear today than anything else. It also tells us that an A320plus is not likely to be launched at Fa...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Can you please explain to me how the A320 supply chain is fundamentally more complex than that of the 737? As far as I can tell every 737 starts life in Wichita, Kansas, and then undertakes a c. 2 500km train ride to Seattle. (Really interesting video here :) ) http://www.spiritaero.com/media/video...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Honestly, I'd say the big 2 never really spent huge dedicated, coordinated efforts in designing the complete aircraft up-front for efficient production. Some elementary parts may be designed with production costs in mind, as Lightsaber said. But the overall aircraft architecture ( the "tube-wi...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

As an example of a concrete problem with that : In case of a problem on the production line, engineers need to be called to locally diagnose the issue and modify the design. I've heard that from Boeing "in case of issues we have an engineer down on the shop floor in minutes". But that is ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Reply #78 gives us a source named Airbus Chief Commercial Officer Eric Schulz. Welcome to 2018 where everyone cries 'fake news' the instant they hear something that doesn't fit their own personal narrative. It's pretty clear that some of the sources various people here love to hate (Leeham/Hamilton...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10737

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

It comes down to if the A330neo is better because of economy class seat width and perceived production cost benefits, why is the 787 outselling the A330neo over the last few years. Apart from Iranair, which had outside political influence, and Garuda, which was partially an A330ceo conversions, the...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study Amazing how an unconfirmed rumour from unnamed sources grows into a strategic shift in a day. Welcome to 2018’s copy, source and next news culture. Reply #78 gives us a source named Airbus Chief Commercial Officer Eric Schulz. “We cannot fix everything at the same ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10737

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

Sadly just like most threads involving the 787, this thread is back to debating a.nets favorite topics of economy class seat width and production (and deferred) cost. Sorry, but did I miss something? I've seen many claim this, but where's the proof? Sure, it may be cheaper than the 787, but the latt...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Is BA's Africa Network So Relatively Limited?
Replies: 52
Views: 9487

Re: Why Is BA's Africa Network So Relatively Limited?

BA is pretty strong to dominant in the United States/Canada, South Africa as well as India market. They are strongest in their former colonies.

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Rebooting a 787
Replies: 23
Views: 4482

Re: Rebooting a 787

Unfortunately this can happen and does from time to time. The 787 has many more ways to clear faults with it electronic circuit breakers and myriad of ground tests, but older planes like the 747 were commonly powered down and powered back up to clear all the faults. For those who have not done it be...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I remember when people used to lash out that the A321NEO/LR as being a paper plane and would blow their tops when anyone would speculate about what the airplane could potentially do. Strangely, these same people have no problem waxing lyrical about the NMA (which is even more non-existent than the ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 255
Views: 28509

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I would not be surprized if Boeing is a bit conservative on the 797. Using, 787, 777X and MAX technology. Most efficiency is to be gained from engines anyway. Providing enough space for some high BPR engines now and after 2030 is key. Long term MRO efficiencies could also drive design and material ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA routes to Asia avoiding Russian airspace?
Replies: 52
Views: 10093

Re: AA routing China fits today thru LAX

Looks like PVG flights are avoiding Russian airspace for UA. UA is still going through Russia for PEK. Not sure what is going on US airlines could be banned from Russian airspace from April 18, following a decision by Russia’s Ministry of Transport to cancel talks with the US State Department. Accor...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10737

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

The carbon fiber construction, bleedless engines was supposed to make a big difference too in operating costs. LAN has said they see only that improvement to be expected from the new generation engines. There was very little advantage from bleedless engine or CFRP compared to their latest build win...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10737

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

Sorry, but did I miss something? I've seen many claim this, but where's the proof? Sure, it may be cheaper than the 787, but the latter offers better range and its seating layout is more convenient for airlines. If the A330neo was better than the 787 wouldn't the airlines have ordered it instead? D...

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