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by Newbiepilot
Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:35 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Crossing the Atlantic for $100 (Norwegian BDL-EDI)
Replies: 18
Views: 11006

Re: Crossing the Atlantic for $100 (Norwegian BDL-EDI)

The long flight through the night was completely uneventful, at no time did the plane felt “not safe” for the long haul job I find this comment completely hilarious so I hope you were joking. It makes me think back to a long gone era of people actually questioning whether their plane was safe enoug...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian CEO resigns
Replies: 30
Views: 7932

Re: Hawaiian CEO resigns

What a shocker! Mark Dunkerley was one of HA’s greatest assets and arguably one of their best leaders. He has a fantastic management style, is incredibly charismatic and friendly, and very down to earth. Hawaiian will absolutely miss him, but unfortunately, not a lot of his personality or work ethi...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian CEO resigns
Replies: 30
Views: 7932

Re: Hawaiian CEO resigns

My prediction is that either he will land a lucrative job somewhere else relatively soon or we will see some significant change at Hawaiian coming up that he may have disagreed with.

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: UA to launch SFO-PPT in 2018
Replies: 43
Views: 7760

Re: Rumour: UA to launch SFO-PPT in 2018

I think it would be pretty cool if UA could launch a SFO-GUM route, or even LAX-GUM. It would be a long flight but maybe a 787-9 could handle it. What market does HNL-GUM serve? the local market or connections from domestic UA routes at HNL? SFO-GUM is only 5,400m, so it's well within the range of ...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 147
Views: 30760

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

As rumoured, Air Senegal has signed a MoU for 2 A330neos -900, one assumes but the Airbus release is careful to avoid identifying the model. (Though there is a -900 tab on the right...) Giving them a chance in case they wanted to switch? :scratchchin: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 147
Views: 30760

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

As rumoured, Air Senegal has signed a MoU for 2 A330neos https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOvmWxbXUAAPA3c.jpg http://www-org.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2017/11/air-senegal-orders-two-a330neo-aircraft.html This is the third reincarnation of Senegal's national airlines. Air Senegal Internationa...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans
Replies: 503
Views: 66024

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

We can beat the fuselage geometry numbers to death with stretches, widths, etc. What I think drives the business case is figuring out how many passengers airlines want to carry and how far they want to carry them. That will drive the size of the wing and engine thrust. Optimizing the size of the win...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: UA to launch SFO-PPT in 2018
Replies: 43
Views: 7760

Re: Rumour: UA to launch SFO-PPT in 2018

If UA is looking to the South Pacific, why serve PPT? French Polynesia is a premium destination that could generate good yields, but it is also the most competitive market, with AF and TN already serving PPT from LAX, and BF soon to serve PPT from SFO (all up, three carriers to compete with). IMHO,...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:51 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Does SFO have a flawed design?
Replies: 44
Views: 7843

Re: Does SFO have a flawed design?

In clear weather, SFO can accept 60 planes per hour. In marginal visibility (ceiling below 4,000ft but still VFR), the airport can accept 38 planes per hour. In Low visibility the airport can accept 30 planes per hour. Between 9am and 3pm and 5pm and 10pm, more than 30 flights per hour are scheduled...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: UA to launch SFO-PPT in 2018
Replies: 43
Views: 7760

Re: Rumour: UA to launch SFO-PPT in 2018

Is UA allowed to carry PPT-CDG traffic? It's cabatoge. Non-EU airlines can fly between two EU airports in different countries with local traffic, but not within the same. But not sure how Tahiti counts for purposes of this. For comparison, a foreign carrier like Asiana is not allowed to carry SFO-G...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Narrowbody order bubble?
Replies: 29
Views: 3555

Re: Narrowbody order bubble?

I wonder about the used market. Are these airlines buying planes that they will operate for their entire useful lives, or will there be a flood of 6-18 year old airplanes? I keep hearing that these mega orders aren’t intended for airlines to double, triple or quadruple in size, so where are the plan...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai
Replies: 107
Views: 15630

Re: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai

Mariner, Yes there are risks... big risks. The bankruptcy was 10 years ago and 4 years ago, Frontier was deeply in the hole. It is a remarkable turnaround, but are they ready to double or triple in size in the next decade? US yields are strong now, but how long will they remain strong? This is a big...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai
Replies: 107
Views: 15630

Re: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai

I do see risk with Frontier. Their route network has frequently been changing. There is not much stability, which makes it really hard to know where they can put 200 more airplanes. They are adding like 85 routes. They don't advertise all the routes that they are cancelling, but in recent threads w...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 147
Views: 30760

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

Talk about a homer with bases loaded at the bottom of the ninth on a seventh game of the world series....Holy smokes!!! 400+ order on a very profitable aircraft!!! The engine manufacturers must be drooling...around 900 new engines to make... Congrats Airbus, and Boeing got a very nice homer with th...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FlyDubai announce commitment for 175 737MAX plus 50 purchase rights
Replies: 15
Views: 2832

Re: FlyDubai announce commitment for 175 737MAX plus 50 purchase rights

That's a big expansion for flydubai. I wonder how this ties in with the airport capacity constraints in Dubai.

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cargo carriers (UPS, FedEx) up-gauging aircraft, flights during the holiday season?
Replies: 54
Views: 4852

Re: Cargo carriers (UPS, FedEx) up-gauging aircraft, flights during the holiday season?

There absolutely is an increase in flying. It isn't necessarily up gauging. It's usually more flights added. Operators of Freighters almost never schedule heavy maintenance September through December. Utilization of their fleets goes up as they fly them to the limit. I've heard from a FedEx employee...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai
Replies: 107
Views: 15630

Re: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai

I do see risk with Frontier. Their route network has frequently been changing. There is not much stability, which makes it really hard to know where they can put 200 more airplanes. There is a lot of speculation there http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/07/25/united-vs-frontier-denver/ Deli...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai
Replies: 107
Views: 15630

Re: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai

Here's the breakdown of aircraft between airlines. As other have said, that's a hell of a lot of planes it does seem extremely ambitious. -Frontier: 100 A320neo, 34 A321neo -JetSMART: 56 A320neo, 14 A321neo -Volaris: 46 A320neo, 34 A321neo -Wizzair: 72 A320neo, 74 A321neo https://twitter.com/RAeSTi...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 147
Views: 30760

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

Quite aggresive expansion from all of them. These are some outrageous growth numbers in the Indigo order. Volaris seems possible since that's a big market. Wizz Air will quadruple in size with all these orders. 260 planes is a big backlog for an airline with 87 planes. It's not unprecedented since ...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's
Replies: 206
Views: 32187

Re: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's

Does the A330neo has a better range than the 787-10? The A330-900 and 787-10 ranges are pretty close. Within a few hundred miles of each other according to Boeing although that depends on which MTOW is chosen and airplane capacity. Marketing numbers give the A330neo an advantage up to 800 miles or ...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai
Replies: 107
Views: 15630

Re: Indigo Partners to order 430 A320s at Dubai

Indigo partners has stakes in Frontier, Spirit, Wizz, Jetsmart, Volaris, etc so they do have a number of all Airbus low cost carriers to place airplanes with. 430 is a lot of orders especially when all those airlines already have A320neos on order.

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FlyDubai 737 MAX cabins
Replies: 43
Views: 6393

Re: FlyDubai 737 MAX cabins

Has anybody ever installed (or considered installing) a herringbone layout J class on a narrowbody? I don't like them in the slightest but it does seem a way of achieving all-aisle access without going for ridiculously-low density. Check out the AA transcon A321s https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/A...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FlyDubai 737 MAX cabins
Replies: 43
Views: 6393

Re: FlyDubai 737 MAX cabins

It looks like they have evolved into a full service airline. Their partnership with EK will demand such class of service. They also tend to fly into oil rich countries where demand exists. They also fly into places like Somaliland. I wonder if they will keep some without lie-flats for low price sea...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders
Replies: 256
Views: 69694

Re: Dubai AIr Show 2017 - Airbus Orders

I love these annual AvB threads. Is there a way to receive an alert about actual orders instead of wading through several pages of hearsay, conjecture and big old hissy fits ? Would be useful if the mods could edit their first post with a daily update. Day 1 Day 2 Etc... Would provice a quick glimp...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders
Replies: 256
Views: 69694

Re: Dubai AIr Show 2017 - Airbus Orders

to have some Airbus news, Air Arabia has signed a lease deal with ALC for 6 A321neoLRs "AIRSHOW-Air Arabia to lease 6 Airbus A321neos from Air Lease Corp" http://www.reuters.com/article/emirates/airshow-air-arabia-to-lease-6-airbus-a321neos-from-air-lease-corp-idUSD5N1MY00W The deal for 6...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's
Replies: 206
Views: 32187

Re: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's

Jayafe wrote:
BLUESKY57 wrote:
. Airbus builds very good, safe and economical aircraft, but on the design side, can learn a lot from Boeing.


Disagree, as most people does.


I don't think most people will ever agree when it comes to aesthetics. Everyone has their own opinion.

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Arabia to lease A321LR aircraft
Replies: 5
Views: 1254

Re: Air Arabia to lease A321LR aircraft

Good order and nice to see mor LRs... Is this an order or a placement of already ordered frames? The deal was announced in 2016 for A321neos and it was speculated earlier this year that they would be LRs. Maybe it is just firming up that decision? https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/59974-air-a...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders
Replies: 256
Views: 69694

Re: Dubai AIr Show 2017 - Airbus Orders

jetmechanicdave wrote:
, How about those Airbus orders at the Dubai Airshow.


Have there even been any Airbus orders announced yet?

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Has a Secret Weapon for Competing With the Airbus A321
Replies: 83
Views: 21810

Re: Boeing Has a Secret Weapon for Competing With the Airbus A321

I think I remember hearing on an earnings call that the 737 is Boeing's highest margin plane , so I would assume the A321 is also the highest profit margin for Airbus. Wasn't that the 777? Perhaps the 777 margin has dropped since the production rate cut, but at some point it was believed to be Boei...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's
Replies: 206
Views: 32187

Re: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's

It is fun to go back and read the speculation about this order From July 2017 http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1368511 From December 2016 http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1349051 This order was a long time in the making. Many expected a combination of 787-9s and 787-10s o...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's
Replies: 206
Views: 32187

Re: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's

Thanks for reminding us. Going up to 14 a month makes a lot more sense once Boeing knew they'd get a deal from Emirates. 2017 has been a good sales year for the 787. Prior to this order, 83 per Wikipedia (not yet with Emirates order, again as Boeing made it sound like a conditional order that the S...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality
Replies: 51
Views: 12537

Re: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality

Pollution does not reduce oxygen levels. Are you sure that your statement is valid in all cases? And I do realise we are talking about air pollution here. My background includes the water industry, and when it comes to pollution of waterways, the main killer (of fish etc) is often NOT the pollution...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's
Replies: 206
Views: 32187

Re: Emirates places order for 40 787-10's

2022 is so far away, I wish they took the birds earlier. Presumably all the other customers ahead of them say they can't. In early September we read from Leeham ( https://leehamnews.com/2017/09/18/assessing-787-production-rate/ ): Boeing last week announced it will take the production rate of the 7...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FlyDubai 737 MAX cabins
Replies: 43
Views: 6393

Re: FlyDubai 737 MAX cabins

Even though their Business Class is impressive. But do they really need it? they only have a few flights that are long enough to have this worth it. Anyways look nice. Hopefully the touch screens in Economy will have better responsiveness than the current ones The article says flydubai’s new Boeing...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans
Replies: 503
Views: 66024

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

I think Airbus would totally applaud Boeing investing in a big 797: - 240-280 seats - 2-3-2 cross section - up to 5500NM range - with the dying LD6 as cargo option, - first flight 2024 http://www.pngmart.com/files/4/Champagne-Popping-PNG-Clipart.png They would rule the huge segment 120-240 seat up ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality
Replies: 51
Views: 12537

Re: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality

Stupid question, can air pollution hamper engine performance? Yes and no. In the short term not really. Engines and most of the airplane are tested to endure sand and dust. In the long term absolutely the engines will see faster degradation and less time between shop visits fit overhaul. Sounds rea...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality
Replies: 51
Views: 12537

Re: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality

TWA772LR wrote:
Stupid question, can air pollution hamper engine performance?


Yes and no. In the short term not really. Engines and most of the airplane are tested to endure sand and dust.

In the long term absolutely the engines will see faster degradation and less time between shop visits fit overhaul.

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans
Replies: 503
Views: 66024

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

If Boeing goes for a flat 2-3-2 cross section, a bigger flat container design might be considerated retaining commonality with the widely used AKH / LD3-45 series. A container that fits A320's but can use the extra space of a wider NMA fuselage too, opening up extra revenue potential for Cargo. htt...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Surpasses 4000 Orders with 43% Market Share
Replies: 21
Views: 5689

Re: 737MAX Surpasses 4000 Orders with 43% Market Share

You know... this post should end the A vs. B debate. The SECOND place winner has more than 4,000 orders. Apparently, they both have good aircraft. Who knew? I must admit that sharing the 43% number was an attempt to show that while the A320neo family has more orders and is incredibly successful whe...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies?

There seem to be a lot of people on this forum thinking Airbus will win the order. Reading the opening post, that appears to be a reflection of industry consensus. I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with that. Anyone can be wrong, of course. :) Rgds Here is a direct quote from Ed Bastian, Delta...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What if the A320 Was Avialable When Southwest Was Young?
Replies: 33
Views: 3478

Re: What if the A320 Was Avialable When Southwest Was Young?

Given that they tried 727's at one point but found them too big, I think they wouldn't have gone to the A320 either, if it weren't the 737-200 probably would have been a DC9-30 40 or 50. Oddly enough wonder what that might have meant for the MD 80 and 90. I think the more interesting question is wh...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality
Replies: 51
Views: 12537

Re: UA temp suspends DEL service due to air quality

It seems like no other airline is doing this other than United. I don't think air quality would be a reason to suspend DEL, as I bet no other airline will. Well visibility is causing delays as well as runway maintenance. Delhi has been limited to a single departure runway causing a number if flight...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies

DL ordering the 737MAX will allow them to do some expansion out of JFK and BOS to Europe while MCO and LAX get some more Latin America routes to further strengthen their network. The MAX10 could probably easily do LAX-ANC, DTW-DUB, MCO-LIM, JFK-BFS, etc. That would be a pretty good choice for inter...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies?

What he really means by "unexpected by smart fleet strategies" is Airbus purchases. :lol: Of course, now I get it. Smart fleet strategies means Airbus purchase, even though Delta bought 737-900ERs in April 2017 and then A321s in May 2017. I was referring to that one poster, not my opinion...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies?

100-150 orders isn't a single solution. Delta has over 700 narrowbodies in the fleet. This order won't dictate the majority of their fleet in the future. What he really means by "unexpected by smart fleet strategies" is Airbus purchases. :lol: Of course, now I get it. Smart fleet strategi...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Surpasses 4000 Orders with 43% Market Share
Replies: 21
Views: 5689

Re: 737MAX Surpasses 4000 Orders with 43% Market Share

KarelXWB wrote:
Market share is defined by in-service fleets and deliveries, not backlog. The 737 still has more than 50% market share.


Fair enough on terminology. It's backlog share instead of market share.

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies?

If Delta decides new aircraft don't give the ROI they like, fuel is cheap, they might look around for a substantial existing fleet & rework them. Like they did with DC9s, DC10's, MD90, 717's, 757s before. A clean, well painted aircraft, new bins/sidewall and some leg room somehow does it for mo...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Surpasses 4000 Orders with 43% Market Share
Replies: 21
Views: 5689

737MAX Surpasses 4000 Orders with 43% Market Share

The 737MAX surpassed 4000 orders. http://www.businessreviewusa.com/finance/6148/Boeings-737-Max-program-exceeds-4000-orders-in-latest-deal-with-CBD-Aviation With a total of 52 of Boeing’s MAX airliners being sold in the agreement, the total number of MAX aircraft sold throughout the range’s history ...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies?

Thinking about it, this is Delta, with it's clever NWAC roots. Based on my 25 yrs of obeservations that means we should keep al options open. - 80 737-10s + 40 transcon optimized 787-10's - 150 A320.5's - 75 CS300 + 75 737-10 - 75 seriously overhauled / re-cabined, sharkletted A320s + 75 new A321 N...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 243
Views: 44155

Re: Delta Nearing Closer to 100 Narrowbody Order

It does feel like the order is close given the number of the articles getting published about the order. I think it is probably a tight competition

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