So, reading this thread, it appears the solution is firing a lot of incompetent workers and middle managers. Particularly in Seattle. They apparently can not do their jobs. Problem is that it's not like there is a crowd of qualified replacement people waiting at the door. Manufacturing management, ...
Jump to postWhy are the FAA and Boeing unable to communicate what the issues pending are that prevent TIA? During the MAX fiasco Boeing was "mandated" by the FAA to "hold their piece in the public domain", so the proper question is why does the FAA believe that the public should know nothin...
Jump to postThis is a silly discussion, and I say that as a Seattleite. Boeing is not just Renton and Everett; it's also North Charleston and San Antonio and soon Wichita. And to right the ship every one of those locations is going to need to have managers on site paying careful attention to process and more s...
Jump to postIt appears that Boeing culture has made significant departures from "accepted best practice" such a strict adherence to procedures, and formal checking arrangements, instead has moved towards "creative expediency" This to me indicates that management, and infact, the entire oper...
Jump to postI do not know how it works in the US but here I have to pay for the waste treatment. So from that point of view they will get the base product plus money. This will be very interesting to follow because unlike traditional jet fuel where the price is depending on the price of crude oil, the crap jet...
Jump to postYep, like remembering to put the bolts back in after you open a fuselage plug! A system that relied alone on "the person who took them out has to put them back" is far too a fragile system for any such a safety critical task. Would the person know for certainty, how long the door required...
Jump to postWould their planes start with a "D"? So we already have: A - Airbus B - Boeing C - COMAC D - ? We already have a two oems starting with "D". Deustche Aircraft who are developing a new version of the Dornier 328. There is also De Havilland Aircraft of Canada. E - Embraer (F)okker...
Jump to postWhich part of " demoralized staff who not even necessarily know, what's "the right thing" or how to come about learning, how to do "the right thing" do you insist on missing? Of course workers who do poor quality work are no heroes. And of course "every quality issue t...
Jump to postI don’t disagree management have a role and responsibility here, but employees do too. Blaming all problems of a company on a CEO is no different than saying the issues in a country are the fault of its leader. Employees don't become magically competent just because. Great manufacturing companies d...
Jump to postStriking certainly doesn’t help build trust or reduce antagonism. Labor negotiations are a two way street and we shouldn’t pretend the full onus is on a CEO. Labor needs to show up and be willing to partner, which has never been the case at Boeing. But for a labor/management relationship to work th...
Jump to postHow can you say Calhoun and the current board are driving a profits-first culture when there hasn’t been much of a profit since the MAX was grounded? Whether there was an appropriate focus on safety and quality is valid, but it’s hard to argue the current behavior is profit above all. You can easil...
Jump to post[...Probably similar thickness to the aircraft skin (which is not much over a 1mm thick - yes that is all that's between you and the thin air outside)... The fuselage barrel is a bit thicker than 1mm... Some areas of the 737 fuselage are 0.040 inches thick. So if by bit you mean 0.016 millimeters t...
Jump to postI seem to recall, several years ago, a spate of incidents where A320 engine cowls became unlatched in flight. There was no hue and cry at that time about Airbus aircraft. As I remember it, there were cowl latches under the engines that may have required reclining on the ground to fasten. Yet most o...
Jump to postWith all those recents issues, almost always in USA and almost always on a 737... Problem of maintenance in the 737 program within all airlines ? There are probably more 737s flying within the US than all the types combined (don't quote me on this, i'm just guesstimating). So statistically it makes...
Jump to postThe requirement to build a new fuel infrastructure with cooling, pressure tanks and whatever at all airports served. The advantage here is that airlines could produce hydrogen themselves, cutting so many middle-men: -Oil exploration companies -Oil extraction companies -Royalties paid to governments...
Jump to postWhat airline would volunteer to use a fuel that is MUCH more expensive than the fuel it's competitors use? This goes not only for Hydrogen but for SAF as well. I think improving emissions is very important. But it will be done step by step over several aircraft and engine generations, not by any ov...
Jump to postHow in the world????? Looks like the aircraft right elevator was torn off, how in the world does a jetbridge hit that? Looks like right ring hit a pole? I would bet on a runaway, either missing chokes or towbar problem with nobody in the cockpit. Maintenance was mentioned elsewhere, accident happen...
Jump to postQuoting the LaGuardia Redevelopment website https://www.anewlga.com/about-the-project/, “In 2015, a comprehensive plan to construct a whole new LaGuardia Airport was unveiled with the goal of creating a world-class, 21st century passenger experience featuring modern customer amenities, state-of-the...
Jump to postOh, that's what they mean by "breaking news" these days...
Jump to postTailwind on rotation. https://youtu.be/3o59fyCarow?si=MZ00OBwQhHhfXWbV That's what the crew said. Will have to wait for more detailed weather data. ATIS at the time was not significant tailwind. Weather posted in #22; wind is measured at 10m, about where the path changed and 5-10 knot wind with cle...
Jump to post[quote="steamgauge" Underspeed at rotation would result in a higher deck angle than what was observed IMO [/quote] It can result in high deck angle /AoA and tailstrike; or if rotation is arrested before that - ether manually or automatically - it results in continued roll with nose up. Pre...
Jump to postNo, not even close! Looked like a lower VR based on tail clearance but not abnormal. Upset sequence began when the A/C was at least 75' altitude Looks like a pretty long drive after rotation though? Yes, but the pitch attitude never entered the red zone. Now that I think of it, the floaty rotation ...
Jump to postLook closely at the elevators....lots of large elevator down inputs. A/C looks to be responding normally to abnormal flight control inputs. IOW no issues with the WX or the airplane itself They came close to a tail strike. No, not even close! Looked like a lower VR based on tail clearance but not a...
Jump to postWind calm, clear day, wind shear, I don’t think so. Then what was it? The video reminds me of a story I heard about a 727 captain who managed to get caught in windshear and firewalled the engines to 110% N1 in the recovery. When his chief pilot asked him why he'd pushed the engines to 110%, he resp...
Jump to postCould it be a usual incorrect programmed weight issue? I can recall a few such events with different outcomes..
Jump to postIs it just me, or something is missing here? Pilots didn't notice the problem, radioaltimeter didn't chime in at 100', atc alarms didn't activate...
Jump to postArguing Boeing’s problems are the result of “bean counters” or some other profit motive is intellectually dishonest and lazy. It ignores the complexity of aerospace and the multiple internal and external forces that put Boeing into this situation. Prior to the GFC of 2008, Boeing's share price had ...
Jump to postSound like you want to fix things by painting over bad rivets, like they did on problematic Alaska 737. That has been what Boeing's senior Executive Management and Board of Directors have been doing since the turn of the century and some feel that they are doing so again by offering Calhoun as a &q...
Jump to postramprat74 wrote:This aircraft is still sitting at the Horizon hangar. I take it can’t go back into service until the investigation is totally complete?
I guess what posters are trying to say about moving back to Seattle, it would reconnect the suits with those building the products. Well it would for Boeing Commercial. It would not do so for Defense, Space and Global Services, none of whom have their HQ or major facilities in the Puget Sound area....
Jump to postI wonder what's the percentage of connecting passengers in those airports who would benefit from terminal secure transfers. To make things worse, international arrivals must pick up baggage and get rescreened after customs - and JFK is international heavy... This is SOP at any U.S. port of entry. J...
Jump to postThis is more than just 'online meetings'. This is about relationships. You don't always win contracts by having the best product. You often times win contracts by friendships and relationships. From a pure objective business perspective, 2020 Revenue (in millions) Commercial Aircraft: $16,162 (27.7...
Jump to postI wonder what's the percentage of connecting passengers in those airports who would benefit from terminal secure transfers.
To make things worse, international arrivals must pick up baggage and get rescreened after customs - and JFK is international heavy...
Boeing Corporate HQ is in currently in Arlington, Virginia. In 2001, it moved Corporate HQ from Seattle to Chicago. In 2022, it moved again from Chicago, IL to Arlington, VA. Boeing Commercial Aircrafts' HQ is in Puget Sound, WA, per: https://www.boeing.com/company/about-bca It is ludicrous to beli...
Jump to postBoeing Corporate HQ is in currently in Arlington, Virginia. In 2001, it moved Corporate HQ from Seattle to Chicago. In 2022, it moved again from Chicago, IL to Arlington, VA. Boeing Commercial Aircrafts' HQ is in Puget Sound, WA, per: https://www.boeing.com/company/about-bca It is ludicrous to beli...
Jump to postGE had a lot going on. Acquisition of French competitor and moving manufacturing to their facilities. Sales where price didn't cover the cost of post-sales support. Hudson PCB cleanup project. I have gut feeling that PCB cleanup was a bit too much for them, forcing into risky deals which didn't pay ...
Jump to postThat would be the easy route but it won't last long. Hydrogen aircraft are slated for EIS in 2035, so after that there won't be much of a market left for a narrow body airliner running on Jet A. Also anybody asking for efficiency gains with current tech hasn't been paying attention over the past 15...
Jump to postNo - but at some point things will change. Humans always want to extrapolate the recent past into the future indefinitely whereas in reality things change more often that not and go in a new direction. Changing CEO is a really good idea at this point as it could potentially put a pin in Old Boeing ...
Jump to postOK - you meant Cash flow - not cash. That makes more sense. Most analysts see about the same or a little more (about $1.5B for 2024) and $6.5B in FCF next year (2025), before climbing to $8.5B in 2026. The majority of their debt matures years from now, they should generate enough cash in the next 5...
Jump to postThey had $16B of cash and marketable securities on the balance sheet as of Dec 31. What are you referring too? https://s2.q4cdn.com/661678649/files/doc_financials/2023/q4/2023-12-Dec-31-8K-PR-Ex-99-1.pdf Well. Maybe https://www.airport-technology.com/news/boeing-faces-downgrade-from-credit-ratings-...
Jump to postThey are spending $3B per year on R&D getting 777 and 737 done. Wall Street has them spitting out $8.5B in cash flow in 2026, which is after spending on R&D. What are they going to spend their R&D money on, until they are ready to start single aisle replacement? They are far from having...
Jump to postThey should work with Embraer, they have the experience to certify commercial aircraft. And by "working with" I mean a real joint-venture, not poaching Brazilian engineers. Two questions here: 1. Would japanese ego allow such cooperation? I am having hard time thinking about Japanese join...
Jump to postI'm sure Boeing could scrounge up another of the TerribleTeens to try, they'd at least be a touch closer to production spec. Maybe the Crystal Cruises one? In any case, I think the time is almost right to look into it. MD-11 is sunsetting, the 763 conversion binge is waning and new production has l...
Jump to postI'd be a lot more excited if they simply go on and build a new narrow body airliner to rival the MAX and Neos or maybe a solid performing mid sized aircraft which the market lacks. The current duopoly don't do anything but lazily slap new engines on decades old airframes. Boeing is not capable of a...
Jump to postTo begin with, who pays?
Is $0.1 trillion bailout realistic enough to plan on it?
It may be tough to compete with Airbus 370F and 390F, though.
Jump to postI'd be a lot more excited if they simply go on and build a new narrow body airliner to rival the MAX and Neos or maybe a solid performing mid sized aircraft which the market lacks. The current duopoly don't do anything but lazily slap new engines on decades old airframes. Boeing is not capable of a...
Jump to postShe isn't qualified to manage a Burger King ... https://www.boeing.com/company/bios/stephanie-pope Folks at Boeing probably think that while there is POPE there is HOPE :-) Wow, such esteemed universities… ”…bachelor’s degree in accounting from Southwest Missouri State University and a Master of Bu...
Jump to postfor entry-into-service by 2030
1:8 scale
Too little, too late. I wholeheartedly agree. It is just way too little, too late. The fall of Boeing is ongoing now. I do not see them in existence in 5 years from now. BCA is now damaged beyond repair. When Boeing and McDD did that mega merger in the late 1990's, my first initial thought was &quo...
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