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by steeler83
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Air China flight CA817 (PEK-IAD, B77W) was diverted to PIT earlier today. Looking at the playback, several other flights bound for the DC area were also diverted to PIT this afternoon, as well as a few from BWI, EWR and JFK. I saw that plane sitting at PIT. T-storms along the coast, I imagine. Big ...

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by steeler83
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Thoughts on the likelihood of seeing David Neelman's new airline (codenamed Moxy) in Pittsburgh? Plan is to utilize CS300s to secondary airports (PVD, FTW, and BUR have been mentioned)? I could probably see an airline like this replacing OneJet to some extent, altho the seating capacity would be ab...

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by steeler83
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What will replace the EMB145 / CRJ200 ?
Replies: 99
Views: 11162

Re: What will replace the EMB145 / CRJ200 ?

I don't necessarily forsee a CR2/E145 replacement either. I say the pax will either be absorbed into the service provided by larger aircraft (if there's a mix of CR2/E45, E70/75, and/or mainline, then the E75s or mainline equipment would pick up the slack left behind from the 50-seaters - as some ha...

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by steeler83
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

I call BS on the reasoning. According to the PG article, they said they're "matching customer demand." Well I was trying to look up pax per day each way, and I think the faremeasure site is not working. I couldn't look up numbers on PIT to save my life! It kept giving me information for Br...

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by steeler83
Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

WN announced new or expanded service staring in November. Nothing for PIT. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/279026/southwest-schedules-new-routes-in-nov-2018/ Wow... I am totally shocked...! Seriously, though, it looks like most of their growth is out west. LGA and DCA see some exp...

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by steeler83
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ to start LAX non-stop; considering additional US city
Replies: 100
Views: 12773

Re: SQ to start LAX non-stop; considering additional US city

Just a quick question. Does SQ fly their A380s to any US destination? Is there any chance they would if they don't already? I'm just curious.

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by steeler83
Tue May 22, 2018 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Big airports without transfer passengers
Replies: 89
Views: 10374

Re: Big airports without transfer passengers

BOS Recently the amount of people transferring through BOS has increased a bit, but it still has mostly O/D passengers. I thought BOS as well. Geographically it's in a rather poor location for connecting traffic, but it is a very large metropolitan area which has huge O&D traffic. As you said, ...

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by steeler83
Sat May 12, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Do my eyes deceive me or am I looking at a UPS MD11 in that last image there? On the subject of the old PIT terminal, I have some vivid memories of that old building. I distinctly remember meeting my grandparents as they got off the plane at DL's old gate 49 after a trip to Arizona (c1989). The year...

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by steeler83
Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Saw these WN load factors to and from PIT posted in the WN Network thread on these forums: Destination: Outbound (from PIT)/Inbound (to PIT) ATL: 74.6/66.2 BNA: 86.6/86.6 BWI: 68.8/72.3 DAL: 83.8/85.6 DEN: 90.2/87.6 FLL: 88.4/90.0 HOU: 84.7/87.3 LAS: 90.0/90.1 LAX: 83.6/84.3 MCO: 87.5/86.6 MDW: 70....

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by steeler83
Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA expands basic economy to transatlantic flights
Replies: 45
Views: 6068

Re: AA expands basic economy to transatlantic flights

I'd rather fly in the cargo hold... Or FedEx... I did basic economy once. You learn from your mistakes and move on.

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by steeler83
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

^^ Not really sure what is going on, but Monday and Tuesday next week fares start at $59 and $75 each way -- on PHL-MIA... After that, though, the base fare jumps back to $139 one way.

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by steeler83
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time
Replies: 260
Views: 41905

Re: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time

Question. Can somebody take a rough stab from the range-payload chart at practical range in an LCC configuration. Would airlines plan around 3000nm or closer to 3500nm? For example, if AC Rouge stuff 200 pax into a 321LR can they reach mainland Europe from YYZ or just the British Isles? Or from YUL...

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by steeler83
Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018

Especially after it [PIT-PHL] didn't end well for both WN and FL. When FL tried PIT-PHL, PIT was a fortress hub with strong allegiance to US which did not waiver. When WN tried PIT-PHL, PIT was being drawn down but was still a very large focus city with the same allegiance. Furthermore, they operat...

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by steeler83
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT remodeling airport
Replies: 100
Views: 12608

Re: PIT remodeling airport

Apologies if this thought was already introduced, but would it have made sense to keep the old terminal, and keep short to medium term costs a little lower by offering a sweetheart deal to an airline that might really benefit from a cheap eastern-ish hub, say Alaska? They could keep maintenance cos...

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by steeler83
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1018
Views: 98140

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018

I'm shocked that they didn't mention that next year the CDG flight is upgauged to a 767-300 - unless I just didn't see it mentioned. Also, isn't it starting a month sooner and ending a month later than 2017 or am I misunderstanding that? In any event, I'm looking forward to seeing what else transpir...

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by steeler83
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B747 Fleet Routes 2018-Details
Replies: 132
Views: 13933

Re: B747 Fleet Routes 2018-Details

Didn't BA upgauge flight 066 PHL-LHR to a 744?

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by steeler83
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NFL predictions for 2017
Replies: 9
Views: 799

Re: NFL predictions for 2017

So....going back to the original link...how were the predictions? Steelers were kind of dead-on. Bucs tanked. Did someone go 0-16? Yep... The Steelers defeated the Browns, ensuring that they'd finish the season winless. Heh, they started off the season losing to Pittsburgh; and they ended the seaso...

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by steeler83
Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 148943

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

AaronPGH wrote:
Woah! No wonder Condor is increasing service. That's incredible.

Somehow I don't find that too surprising. How often have we seen in the press that business travelers were screaming for non-stop FRA flights? Nice to see the numbers back that up!

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by steeler83
Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 148943

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

After reading the article on the announcement of Sarasota/Bradenton, I'm rather intrigued by Elite Air's remarks that they could be interested in serving more markets out of PIT. OneJet is essentially doing the same thing and have already added a slew of flights to a handful of such destinations (I...

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by steeler83
Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 148943

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

After reading the article on the announcement of Sarasota/Bradenton, I'm rather intrigued by Elite Air's remarks that they could be interested in serving more markets out of PIT. OneJet is essentially doing the same thing and have already added a slew of flights to a handful of such destinations (IN...

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by steeler83
Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which US Airport Has the Poential to Become the Next Hub?
Replies: 120
Views: 14604

Re: Which US Airport Has the Poential to Become the Next Hub?

I will throw Cleveland or PITT to be rehubbed. Why: They have the gates and terminals in place to handle the traffic. Granted, but do the have the O&D numbers to warrant such an increase in air service? I'm thinking probably not; even more so with PIT. Cleveland does have a substantially higher...

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by steeler83
Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 148943

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

I'm a little intrigued by DL doing tough-and-gos with an A350. While on subject of DL, it's awesome they're bringing in a 763 for the seasonal CDG flight. On some days next Summer, PIT will see 2x daily scheduled 763s.

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by steeler83
Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Expansion at CLT
Replies: 55
Views: 12276

Re: AA Expansion at CLT

Somewhat off topic, but I thought AA sent their wide body equipment either across the pond or to South America. Well... I am going to Tennessee next week via AA PHL-CLT and a 3 hour ride to the Great Smokies; I am on AA600, which is an A332. MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH A WIDEBODY!!! Ok, that aside... W...

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by steeler83
Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 148943

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

I would say consider banking some of the international flights before doing something drastic like converting domestic gates to international use. If the highly coveted LHR flight and this rumored DUB flight are landed, we may see a banking of international flights.

Exciting times for PIT!!

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by steeler83
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NHL 2017 offseason thread
Replies: 14
Views: 691

Re: NHL 2017 offseason thread

A three-peat would be sweet, but I doubt it will be likely. It seems that other teams are figuring out a blueprint to match the Penguins skill and speed. Ottawa and Nashville did give the Pens a run for their money this post-season. As far as who goes/stays, here is what I have: Fleury Vegas-bound i...

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by steeler83
Fri May 12, 2017 3:08 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2017 NHL conference/SC finals
Replies: 19
Views: 933

2017 NHL conference/SC finals

After a couple of weeks of the twists and turns in this year's NHL playoffs, we have finally come to the Conference Title games. In the Eastern Conference, we have the defending Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins looking for a repeat trip to the Stanley Cup final when they take on the Ottawa S...

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by steeler83
Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA/DL/UA and 50-seat RJ on inappropriate missions
Replies: 69
Views: 10089

Re: AA/DL/UA and 50-seat RJ on inappropriate missions

EWR-LAX on a ERJ45... Done that and despised that! My God - cross country on an RJ?!?! Do they even have that type of range?? I've flown them as short as BUF-LGA and hated every minute of it!! :hyper: An ERJ145 would get about 60-70% of the way from EWR-LAX before crashing due to lack of fuel. So n...

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by steeler83
Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA/DL/UA and 50-seat RJ on inappropriate missions
Replies: 69
Views: 10089

Re: AA/DL/UA and 50-seat RJ on inappropriate missions

EWR-LAX on a ERJ45... Done that and despised that!

UA Express does that 4x daily, all on a ERJ 145. I know it had something to do with the UA-CO merger, but even still I highly disagree with using such a small aircraft on a city pair that sees upwards of 500 pax p.d.e.w...

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by steeler83
Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA's 330s in CLT
Replies: 19
Views: 4706

Re: AA's 330s in CLT

Wife and I (sans baby) are going to be traveling to Tennessee for my friend's wedding, and we'll likely be flying PHL-CLT. What happens to the A332 in the Summer?

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by steeler83
Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:26 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Word Game 338
Replies: 354
Views: 6198

RE: Word Game 338

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 29):
Olympics.

Rio

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by steeler83
Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:25 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Five Word Story Thread 2016 Edition Part 1
Replies: 202
Views: 3993

RE: Five Word Story Thread 2016 Edition Part 1

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/WarRI1" class="quote" target="_blank">WarRI1</a> (<a href="#162" class="quote">Reply 162</a>):<br/><i>a manly man who can............ </i></font...

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by steeler83
Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:20 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2015/6 NHL Playoffs
Replies: 42
Views: 2069

RE: 2015/6 NHL Playoffs

I am somewhat nervous about Game 2. If the Pens aren't careful, they could allow San Jose to get back into this series. The same thing played out in the WCF against the Blues. They lost to the Blues, then beat them at St. Louis and came home to go up 2 games to 1 at. San Jose. Yes, the Blues and Pen...

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by steeler83
Thu May 26, 2016 1:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Self-gloss: Kiddo Number Two Is On The Way
Replies: 18
Views: 1477

RE: Self-gloss: Kiddo Number Two Is On The Way

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/EA+CO+AS" class="quote" target="_blank">EA CO AS</a> (<a href="#12" class="quote">Reply 12</a>):<br/><i>Hey, congratulations right back!  <...

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by steeler83
Thu May 26, 2016 1:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Five Word Story Thread 2016 Edition Part 1
Replies: 202
Views: 3993

RE: Five Word Story Thread 2016 Edition Part 1

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LAX772LR" class="quote" target="_blank">LAX772LR</a> (<a href="#154" class="quote">Reply 154</a>):<br/><i>To think this chick's crazy </i></font...

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by steeler83
Thu May 26, 2016 1:44 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2015/6 NHL Playoffs
Replies: 42
Views: 2069

RE: 2015/6 NHL Playoffs

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/YVRLTN" class="quote" target="_blank">YVRLTN</a> (<a href="#5" class="quote">Reply 5</a>):<br/><i>Big bounce back, won 5-2 to tie the series 3-3...

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by steeler83
Mon May 23, 2016 9:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33
Replies: 290
Views: 48580

RE: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/tooluther" class="quote" target="_blank">tooluther</a> (<a href="#47" class="quote">Reply 47</a>):<br/><i>Michael Boyd, an aviation consultant a...

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by steeler83
Mon May 16, 2016 4:06 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Self-gloss: Kiddo Number Two Is On The Way
Replies: 18
Views: 1477

RE: Self-gloss: Kiddo Number Two Is On The Way

Congratulations!!! I'd offer up advice on how to tell your 1st child about becoming a sibling, but I'm expecting my first in about 4.5 months. We'll be officially half-way this Wednesday.  <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" width="15" height="15" ...

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by steeler83
Mon May 16, 2016 4:02 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Five Word Story Thread 2016 Edition Part 1
Replies: 202
Views: 3993

RE: Five Word Story Thread 2016 Edition Part 1

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/WarRI1" class="quote" target="_blank">WarRI1</a> (<a href="#121" class="quote">Reply 121</a>):<br/><i>latest meeting where the latest.........</...

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by steeler83
Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33
Replies: 290
Views: 48580

RE: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PITrules" class="quote" target="_blank">PITrules</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>The local EAS contracts will be up for b...

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by steeler83
Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33
Replies: 290
Views: 48580

RE: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33

Was that an <acronym title="American Airlines (USA)">AA</acronym> 767 in that pic? I'm intrigued. Nice to see numbers like that in the monthly reports. Things should really get interesting once the daily <acronym title="Pittsburgh - International (Greater Pittsburgh) (PIT / KPIT), USA - Pennsylvania...

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by steeler83
Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 32
Replies: 202
Views: 36681

RE: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 32

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PITrules" class="quote" target="_blank">PITrules</a> (<a href="#196" class="quote">Reply 196</a>):<br/><i>80 local jobs is double the amount pre...

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by steeler83
Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 32
Replies: 202
Views: 36681

RE: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 32

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PITrules" class="quote" target="_blank">PITrules</a> (<a href="#193" class="quote">Reply 193</a>):<br/><i>"A portion of the survey focused on wh...

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by steeler83
Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern (finally) Starts PVG-MAD
Replies: 7
Views: 2908

RE: China Eastern (finally) Starts PVG-MAD

So this service is to commence June of this year? Nice! Not to hijack the thread, but I do have a question regarding travel to China. Is US-China travel seasonally priced? It looks like it's cheaper to fly there late spring/summer. My wife's cousin is engaged to someone from China and they'll likely...

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by steeler83
Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coming Reductions in United Express Flying
Replies: 49
Views: 20956

RE: Coming Reductions In United Express Flying

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/jetblastdubai" class="quote" target="_blank">jetblastdubai</a> (<a href="#40" class="quote">Reply 40</a>):<br/><i>1. <acronym title="United Airl...

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by steeler83
Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coming Reductions in United Express Flying
Replies: 49
Views: 20956

RE: Coming Reductions In United Express Flying

EWR-<acronym title="Jacksonville - International (JAX / KJAX), USA - Florida">JAX</acronym> should have, at the very least 4x daily CR7/CR9/E175 equipment on this route if one of these 737s or A319s won't suffice. Is something up with faremeasure.com? I'm trying to see what the latest O&D count ...

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by steeler83
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:09 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Self Gloss: My Wife And I Are Expecting!
Replies: 50
Views: 2460

RE: Self Gloss: My Wife And I Are Expecting!

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DocLightning" class="quote" target="_blank">DocLightning</a> (<a href="#42" class="quote">Reply 42</a>):<br/><i>We're going for a baby. </i></fo...

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by steeler83
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Eagle Flight Struck By Lightning
Replies: 6
Views: 5170

RE: American Eagle Flight Struck By Lightning

The newscaster said the last time a plane crashed due to lightning was back in 1963. Was he referring to the Pan Am 707 flying from <acronym title="Baltimore / Washington - International Thurgood Marshall (Friendship) (BWI / KBWI), USA - Maryland">BWI</acronym> to <acronym title="Philadelphia - Inte...

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by steeler83
Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:22 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Self Gloss: My Wife And I Are Expecting!
Replies: 50
Views: 2460

RE: Self Gloss: My Wife And I Are Expecting!

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/desertjets" class="quote" target="_blank">desertjets</a> (<a href="#37" class="quote">Reply 37</a>):<br/><i>Pregnancy is a fun and interesting j...

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by steeler83
Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:03 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Self Gloss: My Wife And I Are Expecting!
Replies: 50
Views: 2460

RE: Self Gloss: My Wife And I Are Expecting!

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/desertjets" class="quote" target="_blank">desertjets</a> (<a href="#31" class="quote">Reply 31</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> Thanks fo...

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by steeler83
Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Your Most Loved Song(s)
Replies: 29
Views: 2156

RE: Your Most Loved Song(s)

If I may add a couple more (altho I think they were already mentioned): Traveling Man/Beautiful Loser and Night Moves, both by Bob Seger.  <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/> While on the subject of Seger... Ah h...

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