I think it's a Star Alliance thing but I agree with you. Did a similar trip in February and got zero anything on Airpoints which is unfortunate. While not a lot of points you can actually signup to Krisflyer membership and you have 6months to claim those points back as I confirmed this with SQ. Not...
Jump to postQantas94Heavy wrote:Rex has announced a new interline agreement with Etihad Airways. Not sure if this means anything for Etihad's existing agreements with VA:
The plot has thickened or is it just a conincidence?
https://www.qatarairways.com/press-rele ... internatio
As stated previously, the problem with joining the Alliance is costs ... CapEx such as computer upgrades, signage changes and assumably livery changes Are these costs really that prohibitive? The prohibitive part would largely be membership fees, which vary amongst airlines. Reportedly would cost m...
Jump to postplanemanofnz wrote:Very interesting proactive releases on NZMOT's website about the proposed NZ-VA partnership.
NZ Airports Association, AIAL, CIAL and others all opposed to the deal, while Queenstown Airport is in favour of it.
Looking ahead in the medium term, wonder how the Alaskan buying Hawaiian deal (but keeping both brands) is going to look from an AU perspective. AS being in oneworld with QF HA being a codeshare partner of VA As both brands are being retained, the current arrangements could stay as is, however thei...
Jump to postSQ has a vested interest in VA not joining *A and keeping as many VA flyers on SQ metal as possible as they currently have a monopoly on VFFs going to South East Asia, South Asia and most of North Asia bar Japan. On top of a non-0 amount going to Europe. Having VA join star means losing more to OZ,...
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The *A roster is getting crowded with NZ, UA, AC, NH and SQ.
Looks live VA and NZ are friendly again! https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-air-new-zealand-partnership This was always going to happen once the egos of Luxon and Borghetti were out of the way. They are natural symbiotic partners; the talk that the halfway alliance with QF pro...
Jump to postI'm new to this thread, so not sure if these topics have been discussed, but I'm wondering about two things 1. I notice a lack of long-haul flights by Air NZ from CHC. Instead, the airlines seems to be exclusively focusing on AKL for this. Surely there must be an opportunity for the national airlin...
Jump to postAir France-KLM renewed for 10 years its exclusivity partnership with GOL to cover traffic from Brazil to Europe. Interesting to see the evaluation of the partnerships within Latin America when we think GOL and Avianca are under one single holding, and Latam is under Delta dome. https://www.aviation...
Jump to postSome interesting details on ZK-OKU in this (paywalled) article, including a photo of the first class cabin with NZ branded IFE on the screen. Confirmed will get a Koru on its tail when NZ can find a paint shop with availability to do the job. No mention of rumoured second dry lease 77W. https://www...
Jump to postIt would be interesting to see the dynamics of the Copa/Abra Group relationship in the coming years.
Jump to posthttps://www.bambooairways.com/vn/en/bamboo-airways/news/bamboo-airways-charts-new-course-pushing-ahead-with-restructuring This set of solutions has enabled Bamboo Airways to chart a new, suitable course for its operations in late 2023 and early 2024. The carrier's fleet structure is expected to inco...
Jump to postHowever I just surfaced Bamboo's website and I can confirm that until November 30 QH has canceled all of their FRA, LGW, and MEL services, with the straightforward message "All Flights Unavailable" returned. All long-haul flights have been closed for reservation, including in GDS. https:/...
Jump to postIt's rumoring that QH is returning ALL of its B789. This means it will have to cancel all of its EU and Aussie services. Widespread disruptions of QH daily services are being reported that I started to think that this carrier is really going to bankrupt soon... They have zeroed out all long haul av...
Jump to postAny news on when Thai smile is integrated back into mainline? https://airlineweekly.skift.com/2023/10/thai-airways-to-complete-thai-smile-merger-exit-bankruptcy-in-2024/ Apparently WE's last flight will be on 31 Dec 2023. From 1 Jan 2024, WE will cease to exist. Not sure what's happening with TG do...
Jump to postWill Aerolineas Argentinas leave SkyTeam and join Avianca in Star? Interesting times in alliance world! I wouldn't think so. The other member of Abra, GOL, is partly owned by AA and I don't think there are any plans to have it join OW... So we may end up with the 3 alliances involved in some shape ...
Jump to postKorea has become big and a global trade nation it deserves a big airline. This is not the 1970s any more. It would be okay to greenlight the merger. The US is an even bigger global trade nation; should it also deserve having one big airline or a few big airlines :scratchchin: ? I don't think I see ...
Jump to posthttps://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230928-munw23aunz MU to fly a triangle HGH-AKL-SYD and HGH-SYD-AKL, 2x weekly A332 each way. This was mentioned a while back, another AKL-SYD carrier, interesting times. Are we sure that they have local traffic rights on AKL-SYD/SYD-AKL, and will be selling it? I thou...
Jump to postYet again, AKL is not mentioned in TG's future plans, yet they're launching all sorts of new ports like IST and CTS. "Next, THAI will launch new flights to Oslo in Norway, Milan in Italy, and Sydney and Perth in Australia," said Mr Chai. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/265335...
Jump to postTurkish's application seems merely to increase so it can run a daily service, which Qantas over the years has also tried to get to France for example, so much more difficult to argue against that. (And I suspect there is a far larger direct market for Australia-Turkey than Australia-Qatar) TK's aim...
Jump to postQantas' bad week continues. The ACCC has just released a draft determination to deny the extension of the partnership between QF and MU (China Eastern) on competition grounds. I suppose the re-authorisation just came at the wrong time. If it weren't for the public pressure lately, this could have b...
Jump to postPer another poster, expansion was "planned" as part of the submission, thus BNE-PVG was the route in question. They also operated PVG-CNS briefly. That's far stretched. Just look at CZ. They don't need any alliance to fly all the ports they serve in Australia. Not far stretched at all: ht...
Jump to postQantas' bad week continues. The ACCC has just released a draft determination to deny the extension of the partnership between QF and MU (China Eastern) on competition grounds. I suppose the re-authorisation just came at the wrong time. If it weren't for the public pressure lately, this could have b...
Jump to postQantas' bad week continues. The ACCC has just released a draft determination to deny the extension of the partnership between QF and MU (China Eastern) on competition grounds. I suppose the re-authorisation just came at the wrong time. If it weren't for the public pressure lately, this could have b...
Jump to postPlease, I was using one simple visible example to illustrate my point. How do you know that "these were all what were promised by alliances and never delivered"? From what I can see, at least in the one world case, it certainly has. There is definitely more benefit to being in an alliance...
Jump to postThese were all what were promised by alliances and never delivered. Do you really think the added costs and efforts are worth a few mentions in press releases and a non partner oneworld member is going to direct traffic to you? The Connect partner program just like *A connecting partners is a stupi...
Jump to postIf getting closer to JL and CX was their goal, then why not just form bilateral partnerships with these individual airlines. There is no added benefit that I can see to join as a Connect partner. There obviously is though, otherwise they would do that. For a start, being a member of an alliance, at...
Jump to postIf getting closer to JL and CX was their goal, then why not just form bilateral partnerships with these individual airlines. There is no added benefit that I can see to join as a Connect partner.
Jump to postOn the subject of Qatar airways MEL to ADL flights they are like ghost flights as have less than 10 passengers on board. They could get another daily service into Sydney again if they extended onto Canberra like last time https://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/why-is-qatar-flying-near-empty-jets-a...
Jump to postFrom the NZ thread I can't find a source for it yet online China Eastern have got some serial routes. A330 or 787（Shanghai Airlines） On Tuesday（Chinese Time），MU711 from Hangzhou vis Sydney to Auckland，next day MU732 Auckland nonstop to Hangzhou，next day MU731 Hangzhou to Auckland，Friday MU712 Auckl...
Jump to postIs this a one-off or a new route that hasn't been announced? Or did I miss the announcement? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there has been a scheduled service between HGH and AKL before.. Seems real with four weekly (twice in each direction) flights starting from September 2023. The sch...
Jump to postChina Eastern have got somes serial routes. A330 or 787（Shanghai Airlines） On Tuesday（Chinese Time），MU711 from Hangzhou vis Sydney to Auckland，next day MU732 Auckland nonstop to Hangzhou，next day MU731 Hangzhou to Auckland，Friday MU712 Auckland via Sydney to Hangzhou.Then have a round. Is this a on...
Jump to postSounds like what Australia blocked was the 5th freedom rights between Australia and Singapore making the one stop option unviable. TK already has 7 weekly traffic rights between Australia and Tukiye.
Jump to postI don't see EI joining as a full partner, it would probably be oneworld connect with AA/AY/BA/IB as the sponsors. The issue is always Cara, EI's in-house computer system. Since EI is the only carrier that uses it, they bear 100% of the cost of upgrading it to play nice with the other OW members. Wi...
Jump to posthttps://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/exclusive-its-our-turf-air-nz-ceo-vows-to-protect-auckland-new-york-route-following-qantas-launch/ Air NZ CEO vows to protect their AKL- JFK route saying it's our turf. He mentioned about the quality of the service from the staff on board which will help incr...
Jump to postTK looks to be set to launch x3 weekly IST-SIN-MEL service in December using 787-9! https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/location/turkish-airlines-chairman-outlines-australia-strategy Bolat said that fifth-freedom rights between Singapore and Melbourne are not necessary, “because there are so man...
Jump to postWe could be seeing a return of AR to AKL. Pablo Ceriani, confirmed negotiations for flights between Buenos Aires and Beijing ... in principle would be charter, but with some regularity ... We are seeing which is the most appropriate route, if with a stopover in Auckland ... where we have made a sto...
Jump to postNZ said EZE was a difficult place to operate. SCL is on the West Coast but competing with LA wouldn’t be easy, LIM maybe? They need a partner. If they wanted to get back into South America I'd wondered about Copa. They're in Star Alliance and have a reasonable network to Central America, South Amer...
Jump to postHas anyone from both AV and G3 indicated what their alliance strategy will be going forward? I assume at the very least, they would merge their 2 FFP's into a single one and then it would create some issue with *A?
Jump to postOZ6013 ICN0820 – 1950SYD 359 26 OZ601 ICN2000 – 0730+1SYD 388 x246 OZ601 ICN2000 – 0730+1SYD 77L 246 OZ602 SYD0930 – 1900ICN 388 x357 OZ602 SYD0930 – 1900ICN 77L 357 OZ6023 SYD2125 – 0700+1ICN 359 26 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I’m gonna guess you assumed they were freighters due to 4 digit ...
Jump to postNot sure reintegrating into TG mainline will help much. TG Smile was created as TG needed a lower cost vehicle to serve markets it could not profitably itself with the nearly a dozen 737-400s. Maybe a better question is, can TG even compete with the likes of LCC on these shorter or thinner markets....
Jump to postqf789 wrote:HA445 HNL-AKL is diverting to SYD
The same reason we can ask why any airline in oneworld is in oneworld. It's not like it matters, it's just a marketing ploy. Star Alliance have more rigid rules hence why they are more close knit. Under normal circumstances yes, but QF seems to have gone out of their way to make friends outside the...
Jump to postAt this point, why is QF even in oneworld!
Jump to postAir NZ long haul flying for the week 9 Jan. Interesting to see that ICN is doing well but PVG is well down on the previous daily service. Only LAX, YVR and SIN has a daily service. AKL- LAX 10pw AKL -YVR 7pw AKL- SFO 5pw AKL- IAH 5pw AKL- HNL 4pw AKL - ORD 3pw AKL - JFK 3pw AKL - SIN 7pw AKL- NRT 6...
Jump to postNZ801 wrote:Something is clearly wrong in AKL. Every domestic flight to AKL just turned around.
dkramer7 wrote:Is there something funky going on in Sydney today? Just saw these two JQ 788 that stopped and did laps before continuing to sydney
QF sent a newsletter this morning annoucing 3 new routes including BNE-HND. Have I missed the news that VA have already lost the HND slots? Even more destinations on the Qantas network We've added three new routes to expand our global network, including flights from Sydney to Incheon (Seoul), Melbo...
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