Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

KL is slowly but surely updating its corporate identity and branding. https://campaigns.klm.nl/en/travel-well?WT.ac=HPN_carousel_travel_well When visiting the KLM.com main site, you can see they already updated it The typeface will be replaced with a new font and all the signing company wide will b...

Re: Israel, Gaza conflict — effects on airline operations

Following Iran’s threat to strike Israel "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs "recommends the French to imperatively refrain from going to Iran, Lebanon, Israel and the Palestinian territories" In a crisis meeting, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Stéphane Séjourné, also called for the &q...

Re: OAK Renaming Proposal: San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport

Just a little off topic: the general aviation aerodrome of Toussus-le-Noble (TFN/LFPN) has recently changed its name to "Paris-Saclay-Versailles". It is 6km from the Chateau de Versailles and of the Saclay University but 20km from Paris.

Re: WN3695 engine damage departing DEN

I It is also highlighted on the flight crew walk around. Anyone who does a walk around and doesn’t catch the cowls being unlatched is not doing their job. I was also thinking the Captain or FO missed the unlatched cowling during their walk around, but I do see the latches on a CFM 56 are on the bot...

Re: WN3695 engine damage departing DEN

Before the cowlings detaches completely it seen as flying almost like a flag in the wind. Is it so thin and flexible? Just curious. Yes. Like lots of tings on the plane it's designed to be very light. Probably similar thickness to the aircraft skin (which is not much over a 1mm thick - yes that is ...

Re: WN3695 engine damage departing DEN

Before the cowlings detaches completely it seen as flying almost like a flag in the wind. Is it so thin and flexible? Just curious.

Re: Proposal: San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport

aviator2000 wrote:

It's common in Europe. You've got London-Stansted, London-Luton, Rome-Ciampino, Paris-Beauvais etc

Re: Updated: IAG agrees to acquire all of Air Europa

I just received an email from Air Europa informing me that they were victim of a cyber attack last October. "As you may know, last October Air Europa detected a security incident affecting personal data hosted on the airline's IT systems. (…) The information gathered suggests that, as a result...

Re: Updated: IAG agrees to acquire all of Air Europa

I just received an email from Air Europa informing me that they were victim of a cyber attack last October. "As you may know, last October Air Europa detected a security incident affecting personal data hosted on the airline's IT systems. (…) The information gathered suggests that, as a result,...

Re: Paris-Orly 2035: skybridge, 90% contact gates

It's interesting to see the metamorphosis of European airports adopting more of the U.S. philosophy of jetbridge usage. I'm not sure I would agree with that. What they are saying is that 90% of the stands will be contact stands, not that 90% of flights will use contact gates. There's just not enoug...

Re: Paris-Orly 2035: skybridge, 90% contact gates

It's interesting to see the metamorphosis of European airports adopting more of the U.S. philosophy of jetbridge usage. The philosophy here is described in the linked document. It promotes "decarbonisation and quality of service". Decarbonisation by reducing the number of bus gates and qu...

Paris-Orly 2035: skybridge, 90% contact gates

Groupe ADP launched a big development project for ORY spanning up to 2035. "Decarbonisation, quality of service and regional integration" are the keywords. Amongst the airside projects is the construction of a new West pier, transforming 6 bus gates into contact gates aiming 90% contact st...

Plane veered off flight path after both pilots fell asleep

Has this been posted? I couldn't find it. Please delete if redundant. "According to a preliminary report released Saturday by the National Transportation Safety Committee (KNKT), both the pilot and co-pilot fell asleep simultaneously for 28 minutes during a flight from Kendari in Southeast Sula...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

"Nice Airport: could Air France leave the Côte d'Azur? Air-France's Nice-Orly route is to be replaced by Transavia in 2026. Does this mean that the airline would eventually fold? The unions are worried." Article in French . Highlights: Transavia to take over ORY-NCE flight from 2026 on but...

Re: Updated: IAG agrees to acquire all of Air Europa

I'm a fan of the theory in which Air Europa becomes a Eurowings-style intra-Europe ULCC. The Vueling brand is good in Spain but lacks prowess and recognition in the UK and much of Europe. IAG needs that staff to grow the brand to become this, and while Europe's presence would diminish in MAD, it wo...

Aircraft and engines orders

We hear about the airlines orders, recently by the hundreds, but seldom or never about the associated engine orders. Do these figures get published anywhere? How many engines are ordered per aircraft? Are they any rules about these numbers or is it on an airline policy basis? Thank you for any insig...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

FlyingHonu001 wrote:

I hope thats not a door plug behind the wings...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

My understanding is that all 737s are to be replaced. What routes are served by NGs that cannot be served by A320/1s? I understand that some of HV's Greek holiday destinations can not be used by a fully loaded 737-800 due to airport limitations. If that's the case, maybe they will stop serving thos...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

inkjet7 wrote:

ro1960 wrote:

My understanding is that all 737s are to be replaced. What routes are served by NGs that cannot be served by A320/1s?

I understand that some of HV's Greek holiday destinations can not be used by a fully loaded 737-800 due to airport limitations.

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

What are some potential new US destinations that Air France or KLM could launch? Anyone know the top unserved US destinations from either Paris or Amsterdam? Just a quick look at both networks yields this: AF: MCO, LAS, MSY, SAT KL: DFW, MCO, MSY, SEA I think KL served MCO but terminated it. One wo...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

Air France to operate new special flights connecting Los Angeles to the French Riviera for the Cannes Film Festival and Monaco F1 Grand Prix Flight schedules (local time) May 13, 2024 – AF041 – Leaves Los Angeles at 13:15, arriving in Nice at 9:35 the following day. May 27, 2024 – AF040 -- Leaves N...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

The KL 73Gs will not be replaced by NEOs but by ERJs As such the total of KL 737s to be replaced by NEOs is 36. Don't now if the HV 73Gs will be replaced as these are on routes which cannot support anything bigger. My understanding is that all 737s are to be replaced. What routes are served by NGs ...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

Air France to operate new special flights connecting Los Angeles to the French Riviera for the Cannes Film Festival and Monaco F1 Grand Prix Flight schedules (local time) May 13, 2024 – AF041 – Leaves Los Angeles at 13:15, arriving in Nice at 9:35 the following day. May 27, 2024 – AF040 -- Leaves N...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

So how does the change from Boeing to Airbus work? Will the 737s be retired as the A320/21 enter the fleets or will the Boeings stay until it's time for retirement? I believe TO has 70 737s and will get 13 A320s in 2024. So that's a fleet of 83 by year end? What are the numbers for HV? A320/A321 wi...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2024

Both NEOs currently operating for Transavia (ORY-based A320neo and AMS-based A321neo) coincided today at Barcelona airport, leaving a rather uncommon sight. Will become more and more frequent in coming years though. https://twitter.com/FlightradarCAT/status/1751942703317684644 Nice unique sight, in...

Re: Strange Routes And Their Reasons

EightyFour wrote:

Which airport or city does NDH refer to?

Re: Strange Routes And Their Reasons

In the 60s you had some pretty long flights to reach the other side of the world. All that on narrow bodies! 8 stops, TI (TAI, UT predecessor): ORY-ATH-BEY-THR-KHI-BKK-SGN-DRW-SYD-NOU on a DC8. 7 stops, JL: TYO-HKG-BKK-CCU-KHI-CAI-FCO-FRA-LHR on a DC8. 6 stops, AF: ORY-TLV-THR-NDH-BKK-SGN-HKG-TYO on...

Re: CV-990 doors

DL_Mech wrote:

LHRBFSTrident wrote:

Finding a safety card or a video of the CV-880/CV-990 door operation has yielded very little, unfortunately

Here you go:

https://youtu.be/t_BhvlsG0Y8?si=9dB8HB4dQ5dsubwP&t=66

Re: Airport gates in US vs elsewhere

At NCE easyJet uses bridges (front) and stairs (rear) but not at ORY or CDG where they use bridge to the front door. Since my post I flew from ORY to NCE on AF and I boarded via stairs through the rear door. All other aircraft had stairs for rear boarding, regardless of the airline. Maybe a new tre...

Re: How much ground crew needed?

Can someone explain why the need for wing walkers? I would assume that if the pilot follows the guideline there would not be any problem with neighboring planes, equipment or building. I have never seen wing walkers in Europe, hence my question. Far from all places have wing walkers. In Europe, the...

Re: How much ground crew needed?

Can someone explain why the need for wing walkers? I would assume that if the pilot follows the guideline there would not be any problem with neighboring planes, equipment or building.
I have never seen wing walkers in Europe, hence my question.

Re: Hawker Siddeley Trident

the mainwheels had two tyres on each hub, and the axle rotated as it retracted. Amazing stuff. What was the advantage of having 4 wheels on one axle vs two? Space saving? It doesn’t seem like much difference between the two options. The same system is used on the IL-76. There a guy on YouTube makin...

Re: Hawker Siddeley Trident

Max Q wrote:

Interesting, there’s a perception the L1011 was a pioneer in Autolanding, the Trident was doing this almost a decade earlier

In fact Lockheed ‘acquired’ several engineers from that program

Re: Strange Routes And Their Reasons

Yes, well aware, I grew up in that age...but the timeframe we're talking with those routes I think was a bit before that debuted. I've no idea when QF got it. I was referring to the AF flights. The 707s had cinema onboard from the get go I believe. Maybe it came later to QF. Oh, well then, lucky AF...

Re: Mysterious L-1011 at Cotonou, Benin, beach

Interesting 2-4-3 seat layout. I believe the early versions were all set up that way before becoming 2-5-2.

Re: Mysterious L-1011 at Cotonou, Benin, beach

ClassicLover wrote:

Somewhat intact! It looks like all it needs is a good clean and it could take to the sky again.

Re: Strange Routes And Their Reasons

Hell, forget about IFE...you didn't have tablets or e-readers back then either. Truly just books or magazines or newspapers. I can't imagine the boredom. But that's because we DO have all those things today. I've never heard of an airline that has e-books in their IFE; it probably doesn't make any ...

Re: Strange Routes And Their Reasons

That's just amazing. And yeah, knew about the QF route; it was one way you could go round-the-world with them vs. the other route via HNL & SFO & JFK to LHR. Fun times...with no IFE of any kind! YE GAGS MORTICIA! That's when people read books. LOL Not to get off topic, but even though I lik...

Re: Japan Airlines A350 collides with aircraft at HND

LaunchDetected wrote:

An example of recent similar event:
French BEA released an investigation report this December detailing an incident at BOR

Re: The Annual Migration of Private Jets to Florida and Aspen Has Begun!

Limiting private jets operation will barely make a difference (see reply above yours). Building high speed rail will but the US seem to struggle with that. Methinks you struggle with geography and just how big the US actually is…as a singular nation. Well China faces the same if not bigger geograph...

Re: The Annual Migration of Private Jets to Florida and Aspen Has Begun!

I’m sure the bizjet set will get rid of their planes in a heartbeat to ride on HSR to FL. I’ve put a group of passengers on 1st class CX and they looked like Navalny going to Siberia. I don't know if you refer to my post but I didn't suggest that the bizjet set take HSR (if or when it'll be availab...

Re: The Annual Migration of Private Jets to Florida and Aspen Has Begun!

Wow. This is gross!! We need to follow Europe's lead and start limit the use of private jets. We need to increase taxes on companies who own private jets and move toward banning these planes that harm the climate for the benefit of a few people. Limiting private jets operation will barely make a di...

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

davidjohnson6 wrote:

Transavia has tried LTN-ORY in the past... it didn't last that long

Re: CV-990 doors

Thanks for the quick detailed reply.

CV-990 doors

I just came across this photo of a Spantax Convair CV-990 and was struck by how the doors open. They swing out and up. Why? Was it the case for the 880 as well?

https://www.facebook.com/share/GtqeHXfcMZ2jbxXn/?mibextid=K35XfP

Re: Airport gates in US vs elsewhere

In Europe at airports without airbridges are more common than in the US and all airlines use stairs front and often rear door too. It goes without saying. At some airports, Ryannair uses airbridges and no rear stairs like at BCN. FR is known for cutting costs and I wonder why they use bridges there....

Re: European Domestic Flying - Are Runway Lengths an Issue?

AirbusCheerlead wrote:

To add to European towns only served with Helicopter: Monaco (I'm not sure if regular scheduled flight still operate to Nice Airport)

Re: European Domestic Flying - Are Runway Lengths an Issue?

The European equivalent of SNA-EWR doesn't seem to exist. On continental Europe the closest I found is FAO-HEL, non-stop A321 flights (3,480km). SNA-EWR is 3,912km but there's got to be some payload restriction as SNA runway is only 1,737m/5,700ft long. FAO is 2,490m/8,169ft. So not exactly compara...

Paris Olympics: Zero flights during opening ceremony

"During the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games on Friday July 26, 2024, a strict temporary prohibition zone, with a radius of 150 km and without altitude limit, will be set up around Paris between 7:00 p.m. and midnight... Except for emergency services flights and flights which may benefit, ...

Re: Emirates Tim Clark proposed to Airbus an A380 replacement

What he proposed seems more like a C5 Galaxy type aircraft. Did he really? Because the high wing concept is not very appropriate for a double-deck passenger jet as the wingbox takes up a good half of the upper deck. How else do you make room for the large bypass engines Clark is imagining? No idea ...