Did any other American carrier other than PA and CO ever serve DPS?
Jump to postBut what really sets United Airlines apart i the shear reach of their international network. They serve 134 international destinations across 67 countries that is extremely impressive considering most if not all of those destinations are on United's own metal. No disagreement there, but if you're g...
Jump to postContinental used to serve Cairns via Brisbane to Honolulu. It is ironic, all this UA HNL hub talk. I started with CO shortly after the CO closed it HNL hub. The reason given was UA was killing them flying non-stop with 744s. And CO was left with trash yields But all that metal shifted to EWR and be...
Jump to postFor accuracy, metro Orlando is over a million people larger than metro Tampa. Huh? Tampa - 3.1 million Orlando - 2.76 million CSA (Combined Statistical Area) is the relevant statistic for airport catchment areas. Orlando CSA is 4.4 million. Tampa is not in a CSA, just MSA (Metropolitan Statistical ...
Jump to postTPA, while on the surface sounds promising, will not work as yields are some of the lowest for major airports. Also, the Tampa Bay area, while growing, just doesn't have enough people. MCO has the space and the Orlando combined statistical area has the people. NK/F9/B9 are all struggling right now....
Jump to postHNL. Go after HA/AS, and their HNL hub struggles (returning TYO frequencies, dropping AKL to seasonal, some of HA's 787s possibly getting redirected to AS, etc). Unique timing. Can maybe fly to places in Asia/Oceania with shorter runways which couldn't be served from the mainland - OOL, WLG, etc. A...
Jump to postY’all crack me up!
It clearly is about transatlantic. But we are guessing everything from small cities in Utah to ones in Japan!
(also the flights are loaded folks, there is no mystery)
It is loaded. Nothing too exciting EWR-APG is new, PRG is up again . I mean EWR-ARN is an old CO route, still carry’s the Continental flight numbers.
And yes, y’all are getting your IAD BER
You can literally SEE Manhattan from EWR!!!
So by this logic IAD isn’t Washington, nor is CDG Paris or NRT Tokyo!
How absurd!
Does anyone else hate how random UA flight numbers are now? Like for a while it was a mix of UA 800/900s and CO 00/100 now it is just any random numbers.
Jump to postNope. They’ll get: - A parking stipend increase from 35 to $60/month. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't pilots, flight attendants and airport agents get free parking at airports? No…. Well.. yes. We get either free parking I...
Jump to postContinental Airlines launched Los Angeles to Hilo and Honolulu in 1964 or 1969? https://aviation.hawaii.gov/pioneer-airlines/continental-airlines/ UA may have HI, not my focus. But I always find it hilarious when UA trumpets its decades long service to Japan or Mexico ,etc. When it was really Conti...
Jump to postAs someone who not only started their airlines career in Res, but has worked call centers outside of the airline industry I feel the need to to clear some obvious delusions here. So in 2021 AA is starting res agents at 13.05 and WN at 15, great but let me point out that well over 20 years ago I sta...
Jump to postHA is gambling on lower yielding connecting itineraries from Australia/New Zealand/Japan/South Korea to its large West Coast and growing East Coast network (AUS, MCO, JFK, BOS). With a decent premium class and good timing I'd consider HA SYD-HNL-BOS (SYD-BOS being my most regular international rout...
Jump to postOne thing I won't be surprised to see AA announce is BOM, I'm guessing from NYC. They've just published their codeshares with IndiGo, and while the expectant DEL and BLR codeshares are there, they also released a slew of BOM-originating codeshares as well. While it could be a placeholder, I do beli...
Jump to postCALMSP wrote:tpaewr wrote:I do not claim to know WHY, but there is unusually large group of pretty high up folks from the sale side leaving TPA in the afternoon. But it could be completely unrelated
As in MD/VP level or below?
I do not claim to know WHY, but there is unusually large group of pretty high up folks from the sale side leaving TPA in the afternoon. But it could be completely unrelated
Jump to postWe often wonder in this thread about how UA stacks up against DL, AA, B6, and AA+B6 in the NYC area. In the DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership thread, Midwestindy posted this chart which I thought interesting: https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20210921006083/en/908349/4/JBLU_2.jpg?dow...
Jump to postUnited spent longer in bankruptcy than any other US airline, despite that they did not manage the CH 11 process well and emerged still carrying a lot of debt, their survival was very much in question Their financial performance post bankruptcy was not impressive and without the lifeline of the merg...
Jump to postWhile the aging sUA 777 PW aren my least fav, they do serve a purpose. I am a pinch surprised but also glad to hear they are all returning. The 787 fleet and sCO 77E don’t belong going to Hawaii. I am glad they can go back to doing what they should. EWR-HKG, SFO-BLG, etc. What ever happens. We are b...
Jump to postHow many more 787’s does United have coming? And which size? Oh, and I hope some of the MAX’s replace some 738’s! Time certainly does have a strange way of passing! I recall my “ex flying up to EWR from Brazil on a 764, and she was brand new, longer, new genius wing tips, etc, and I was jealous bec...
Jump to postIt is convenient to blame CO. But if FOD wasn’t normal part of life there wouldn’t have been a FOD check that was skipped that day.
FOD happens, the mistake was not being on top of it
I love the idea.....never gonna happen. I grew up in TPA. (Well who knows in COVID world, but unlikely) Interestingly at one point TPA was 4th in departures for CO after EWR IAH CLE & GUM. In truth the bulks was 3M operated. But it was a connection point for CO. My understanding was CO had airsi...
Jump to postI feel bad for everyone losing their jobs but Sharon Grant is amazing. Hate to see her go.
Jump to postThe EWR hub is completely from CO. I think Peoples flew LGW, maybe other. But at some point CO from EWR serviced LGW LHR STN BHX BRS MAN EDI GLA BFS DUB SNN LIS MAD BCN CDG ORY BRU AMS STR DUS CGN FRA MUC TXL ZRH GVA CPH ARN OSL MXP FCO ATH TLV DEL BOM , CAI SVO were out for sale but never launched...
Jump to postThe EWR hub is completely from CO. I think Peoples flew LGW, maybe other. But at some point CO from EWR serviced LGW LHR STN BHX BRS MAN EDI GLA BFS DUB SNN LIS MAD BCN CDG ORY BRU AMS STR DUS CGN FRA MUC TXL ZRH GVA CPH ARN OSL MXP FCO ATH TLV DEL BOM , CAI SVO were out for sale but never launched ...
Jump to post- Alaska - Allegiant - American - Delta - Frontier - Hawaiian - jetBlue - Southwest - Spirit - Sun Country - United What is considered a “major” airline? What’s a non-major US airline? Commuter airlines? An airline is considered a major one when it posts over US$1B in revenue in a fiscal year. So a...
Jump to postAither wrote:Good, we will get bigger then.
Both DL & UA have been looking to "rationalize" their network for quite some time. This crisis is the "opportunity" to speed up things.
Still better than the rising blue mess, but worse than the Continental inspired 787 scheme. It looks cold and uninviting, needs some warm golden/orange/yellow trim. I agree, it is worse than the 787 CO livery which I like best of the 3. The new one is just boring. Too much blue. Perhaps the wave co...
Jump to postNobody seems to be up in arms about other retro liveries. 5872011,5466105 Painting up a Flying Blue, a Battleship Gray, some of the meatball liveries would be fun. Those two liveries are from before the careers of any current employees. They are for fun, they don't represent a different time that e...
Jump to postWhat, exactly, is unstable about the current company? COVID is going to derail 2020 for UA (just like every airline) but by most metrics 2019 was United's best year ever. You might not have noticed it, but since coming in 2016, Scott Kirby has engineered a remarkable housecleaning at United. If any...
Jump to postThat data is not helpful as it divides up carriers by mainline & regional carriers. No, have you seen the margins DL produces at its core hubs? They aren't switching at this point, their current hubs are what make them more profitable than UA. "Switching" SFO/DEN for SEA/SLC isn't a g...
Jump to postThe newly refreshed FIRST CLASS, in truly a ”refresh” and not a ”refurbishment” - if you do not instantly notice United’s new entry branding plaque (which I personally find to be very well designed aesthetically, and does a good job upon stepping aboard to A) Brand the airline, B) in a nice connect...
Jump to postBelow is a link to the DOT Bureau of Transportation Statistics. November 2019 is the latest information available. EWR Market Share UA: 51.3%, AA: 6.8%, B6: 6.3%, NK: 4.2%, DL: 4.2% Other airlines: 27.1% LGA Market Share DL: 24.4%, AA: 19.1%, WN: 10.2%, 9E: 8.8%, UA: 7.5%, Other airlines: 30% JFK M...
Jump to postPlease tell me how they are “weak” outside of their hubs.... I would like to see some examples here. Granted about they only place they don’t compete well is east coast/Midwest to Florida and Caribbean to the extent that DL and AA do. DL would love to have SFO and DEN over Sea and SLC on the flip s...
Jump to postCO did the same thing EWR-GIG for a while
It greatly improves utilization not having it sit all day long in SA.
I think single v double thread depends on how intense your focus is now In the past when lingering (CO) nostalgia keep me more engaged I was a two thread man. I wanted to keep on top of every details. But as the years pass and my passion for this company gently decays, the one stop shop single threa...
Jump to postUA 48 & 49 were PDX-HNL-PDX for decades in the 70's & 80's, now they are used elsewhere in the system. I had lots of old ticket stubs with this flight on it. Started on DC-8's then went to the DC-10. CO then UA 48/49 has been EWR-BOM since it launched. Prior to that it was IAH-OGG before th...
Jump to postI am impressed that AA managed the “update” their livery in a way more meaningless and underwhelming than UA did.
The bar is set very high for DL to do something even more trivially and silly
First 787-10 with the new livery in final assembly! (Currently only the tail is painted, but looks great!) https://www.instagram.com/p/B4iXRdUI5oo/?igshid=11di1hdt9vs4wlol OH IM EXCITED FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! the new livery is going to look amazing on the 78J I still find it kinda boring. I like the ...
Jump to postTotally false. Before the merger CO’s pilots, flight attendants, ramp and mechanics were unionized. Jesus dude, relax!! Did I say the pilots were not? No I said the work groups that weren’t. Which was basically any one you conveniently omitted. All airport CRS, all Res, and all Chelsea. Post merger...
Jump to postThe problem the union is it changes the culture forever in ways that you don’t know before hand or measure. Talk to almost any CO work group that was non union before the merger and they will tell you it isn’t worth it. All that glitters isn’t gold. Totally false. Before the merger CO’s pilots, fli...
Jump to postThe problem the union is it changes the culture forever in ways that you don’t know before hand or measure.
Talk to almost any CO work group that was non union before the merger and they will tell you it isn’t worth it.
All that glitters isn’t gold.
It is all about the culture. That is what the pax feel. The “new” but really not so much now DL has no trace of the bitterness from NW. The “new” UA is still confused dresses up like a modern version CO but inside is still the same old UA from a decade ago. AA too has lost it cohesion a Frankenstein...
Jump to postThe new hanger at IAH is being built to handle a 777-9 FWIW
Jump to postIn case you missed it: https://i.ibb.co/171cvKv/70221677-436241360349668-2510679045603631350-n.jpg https://www.instagram.com/p/B2wmh-EBLNZ/?igshid=1o5hcyuro9f2w That paint job looks amazing on the A319!!!! gives the plane some life and color. I must admit the new livery is growing on me and it look...
Jump to postHere's a partial route map at the time the two airlines became one company in October 2010. Blue is UA routes, gold CO routes, red future CO routes, and green future UA routes. https://i.ibb.co/p2pkPdg/Screen-Shot-2019-09-24-at-6-53-48-PM.png Personally I would've love to see that Moscow route stic...
Jump to postCh-aviation is saying that PMO and NCE will be served from ORD: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/80970-palermo-to-see-tatl-flights-as-united-expands-to-europe I have family from Chicago so I get they are proud of the city but it is alway cute when Chicago-land people think their market is on...
Jump to postAnother route that UA inherited from Pan Am is gone again. PA didn't fly EWR-EZE. EWR-EZE has been a relatively tough nut to crack for CO/UA. It's been started and stopped a handful of times. Exactly, CO announced and never flew EWR-EZE and IAD-EZE was moved to EWR at merger. It has nothing to do w...
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