What’s that old saying? Something like economists have predicted 12 of the last 5 recessions? I’m not saying it won’t or can’t happen, but there almost always a few economists saying a recession is right around the corner. U.S. National debt increasing $1 trillion every 100 days per CNBC. Seems to ...
Jump to postSeems to me that many of the new planes in this order will arrive after 2030 and will replace 319s, 320s, and 738s that will receive interior updates.
Jump to postCombo fleet/network question…could the A220 be subbed in to the current 717 routes as they are retired, or would that honor go to the 737-800/A319s? Or some other aircraft ? I realize that this is a next-decade question - not exactly pressing. Just curious. The smart posters here seem to expect old...
Jump to postPeople forget that many of the 763ER and all of the 764ER were purchased as domestic widebodies, in an era in which the 777 was planned as DL's primary long-haul aircraft. Too bad Delta didn't order its own 753's (and not just the ones ordered by NW) in the late 90's/early 2000's. I think that woul...
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Jump to postIt has been said internally multiple times that the future of the WB fleet is the 330/350 families. Period. The priority is commonality and economies of scale. Y'all need to let this 787 dream die. It's not happening. I'd bet my career on it. Completely agreed. Judging from the responses above ther...
Jump to postUA444 wrote:notgranola wrote:Saul bass, tulip, and battleship need to make a comeback!! I would LOVE to see either (or all) of those on a dreamliner...mmmmm....
Would love all 3. Maybe for the 100th anniversary they’ll….oh who am I kidding
I read Delta plans to have over 300 737's in the fleet by the end of the decade. With 100 or 130 737-10's and 163 739's, it appears there will be some 738's in the fleet at 2030.
Jump to postI just saw this but am not a subscriber - https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... l-standoff
Jump to postI just saw this but am not a subscriber - https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... l-standoff
Jump to postStill think Delta is eventually going to order the 787, 787-9. While I'd like to see DL order the 789, 787-10, it ain't gonna happen with the current generation of the aircraft. Now if Boeing hangs a GTF or ultrafan on the wing, then you might have something worth ordering! I thought someone recent...
Jump to postI could see Delta wanting more 330's (new or used, ceo or neo) if it wants to expedite the retirement of the 764's and more quickly get to its long-haul future of strictly 330/350.
Jump to postThe same person on the airline pilot forum who first reported the 350/739 rumor now says there are rumors of a 330 acquisition - not certain what type and whether used or new.
Jump to postI was under the impression that overcapacity and high competition existed on many Asian routes even pre-Covid. Seems to me the slightly smaller 789 would be perfectly adequate to replace the 77E on United's Asian routes.
Jump to postEven if we look at a possible A220-500. When would it be ready? I mean even if the program was announced today, design and certification would carry a heavy lead time. Ever since the MAX debacle, scrutiny on regulatory signoffs are much higher now. Thats not so much a problem, I do not think Delta ...
Jump to postElementalism wrote:One serious question. Which airlines have show interest in a potential A220-500? It seems to me cargo becomes an issue when comparing the A320 and A220-500 at 180 seats.
United to open Heathrow hub.
https://crankyflier.com/2021/04/01/unit ... throw-hub/
I think Boeing must offer an aircraft the size of the MAX 7 when it does develop the NSA, even if Airbus doesn't. Southwest will demand it.
Jump to postMy understanding is that Delta hasn't purchased a used widebody since the late 90's, so the odds of purchasing used aircraft to replace 767-300ER's seems remote. Also, the 2014 widebody order was to replace the 747 and 767, and Delta chose the 339 to replace the 767, so I see little chance that it w...
Jump to postHas anyone here heard of flight shaming? Politics will kill massive tourism, which is what drives VLAs. Business travel, while profitable doesn’t require a VLA, but it’s numbers alone, except on very few routes. If anything we’ve reached peak airliner and will retreat to 787-A350 types for the next...
Jump to postSo it would seem all of this boils down to two things: (1) Boeing needs a clean-sheet 737 replacement (2) The market wants/needs a 757/767 replacement As much as Boeing would love for it to be the case, methinks you cannot achieve both with a single aircraft type. A super long single-aisle isn't go...
Jump to postDelta released its annual report today. Did any of the experts notice anything interesting about the fleet in the annual report?
Jump to postEven with the 7 76Ts and more than likely the ex Gulf air airplanes on the way out (gets rid of an engine type) Delta should still have like 40+ 763s to operate According to Wikipedia, Delta is down to 34 763's and 21 764's. I guess I wasn't paying attention; Delta sure went from 56 to 34 763's ver...
Jump to postBoeing757100 wrote:
Thanks. But FACE IT, you only said that because I said "THE 757MAX IS HAPPENING TOMMOROW." FACE IT.
Hi all I'm barely 14 years old and am not that experienced into aviation, so please could someone help me and see if I'm right? I think the 737MAX might be repetitive in their fleet. They have A220s with an average age of 1.2 years, A321s with average age of 2.5 years, 100+ A321neos coming online s...
Jump to postNot saying you are wrong but just curious why DL has been able to consistently offer mainline out of JAN but WN struggled. Only place DL flies to out of JAN is ATL. Since the pandemic started, most DL flights out of JAN have been on regional jets, with an occasional 717 sprinkled in. UA and AA are ...
Jump to postA friend told me he heard Southwest's Jackson MS flights would be to Memphis and New Orleans. I can't find confirmation of that anywhere else. If true, I guess that would be a low risk way of returning to JAN if true. Northwest had flights from Jackson to Memphis years ago. I don't know if any airl...
Jump to postA friend told me he heard Southwest's Jackson MS flights would be to Memphis and New Orleans. I can't find confirmation of that anywhere else. If true, I guess that would be a low risk way of returning to JAN if true. Northwest had flights from Jackson to Memphis years ago. I don't know if any airli...
Jump to postDelta released its 10-Q today but is keeping the terms of the agreement with Airbus on adjusting its deliveries confidential. I would guess Delta is mostly pushing back the deliveries of 321neos.
https://ir.delta.com/financials/sec-fil ... d=14440688
DL AFAIK has no planes on order that fall in the size of the 738 and therefore at one point or another will have a need for a plane of that size. Why is it so important for Delta to have an aircraft with 160 seats? Delta basically replaced 150 seat MD88 and MD90's with 180 seat 739's and 190 seat 3...
Jump to postAgreed. The 788 is badly needed for a 767 replacement. The A330 is just too big and heavy for the majority of 767 routes. The purpose of the 2014 widebody order was to replace the 747-400 and start replacing the 767-300ER. If having an aircraft roughly the size of the 767-300ER was important to Del...
Jump to postI think Delta's orders and options for 321's and 220's fulfill its narrow body needs for the next 10 to 15 years and there is no need for the 737max.
Jump to postAlthough as stated above, I am in the camp that DL will get 737MAXes and should order 787s, I would note that for both narrowbodies and widebodies there likely is seat count growth. Replacing the 777s and 767s with A339s and A350s is, I expect, a significant seat capacity increase. The purpose of t...
Jump to postMy understanding, based upon a response here to a question I asked several months ago, is that the 321XLR wouldn't work for trans-Atlantic flights out of Atlanta, but would work quite well for secondary markets out of NYC and Boston. . Also I don't understand why some think Delta will order the 788 ...
Jump to postIn terms of the MD-88/90 replacements: I think the A220 and A321 + the gradual passenger-demand recovery ARE the mad dog replacements. Delta's "smaller airline" stance takes into account those retirements IMO. Maybe, but that still leaves them with a need for A320, 717 and early 738 repla...
Jump to postif Delta were to order the 321XLR, what European routes would be practical out of Atlanta and JFK? I suspect the 330-900 is too large for some routes now using the 767-300, but perhaps the 321XLR could replace the 767 on some routes, especially if demand is low for an extended period of time.
Jump to postI was surprised to see ATLDUS closed indefinitely. Just wait. There's going to be a lot of secondary Europe cut with the 767 being retired. The A330 is way too big. Gotta wonder if there’s going to now be a niche for the 321XLR. Delta will already have an A321neo fleet, so XLR isn’t a whole differe...
Jump to postI wouldn't be surprised if Delta defers the start of deliveries of 321neos and remaining 339's and 359's (other than needed to replace 777's) until 2024 to 2025. 321neos would then start replacing 757's, 320's and 738's. Don't know about the remaining 321ceo's still on order.
Jump to postDo the experts think American should just give up on Trans Pacific routes, other than a few routes from DFW to the major Asian cities?
Jump to postMy guess is United probably wishes it hadn't ordered the 359 but is stuck with it, especially with the Rolls Royce engine deal. The 787's and the 77W's would be sufficient for United's widebody needs. I think the economy will be awful for years to come with a day of reckoning coming the U.S.'s awful...
Jump to postI can't see Delta needing 39 359's. Maybe Delta will reduce the 359 order to 12 more for a total of 25, then add 20 or so more 339's to the current 37 in its fleet or on order.
Jump to postAA and United with their enormous preexisting 777 fleets and 787 orders came to a different conclusion and added some later build 77W. Delta could have ordered 7 later build 77L to replace the final 7 747-400's,just as AA and UA ordered later build 77W's, but it obviously went with the 359/339 comb...
Jump to postHad Airbus not developed the 330NEO, wouldn't Delta and others have ordered 330-300 HGW's instead?
Jump to postWould American be in better condition had it ordered fewer new aircraft back in 2011 (in addition to ridding itself of a hub or two)?
Jump to postDelta currently has 13 359's. I wonder how long things will remain bad enough before Delta needs to start receiving additional 359's.
Jump to postEven after retiring 18 777's, will Delta need 39 359's (13 current and 26 on order) within the next 5 years?
Jump to postIf Airbus hadn't developed the 330NEO, I wonder if Delta would have just ordered more 330-300 HGW.
Jump to postCan the experts see AA downsizing to hubs in PHL, CLT, DCA, MIA, and DFW?
Jump to postWith the MD88 soon to go, I wonder what will happen to mainline service at those Southern cities. Some of those cities might see the occasional B738, A319, or maybe the upcoming, A223, but I bet the bulk of the services (and in some cases, all) will be scaled down to the regionals. I think 717's wi...
Jump to postWhy would Delta need a large order of anything in the near future? I could see Delta deferring the 321neo's for 3 to 5 years. I don't if it was here or on the airline pilot forum, but someone wrote of rumors of Delta downsizing by roughly 1/3 after 10/1/20.
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