What is there to cite? You missed the joke. That's the response kitplane01 uses on weekly basis. You could say the sky is blue and he will still ask for a citation. Not for most people. Most people don't claim wild or unknowable facts. So what I don't do is make wild claims of fact, and when asked ...
Jump to postThe additional Air Wings add breadth and depth. The boats can be turned around faster and operate with different Air Wings. So, using the boats more but in different length deployments. You can mix and match your deployments without worrying about a "deployment" cycle for an Air Wing beca...
Jump to postO.K. Lets suppose the DOD gets more money. Would you rather buy two air wings, or one air wing and one carrier? With your ridiculous question you would have to pick two air wings over a single carrier. Picking the single carrier would result in an empty carrier that is useless. Maybe you misread th...
Jump to postYour analysis is wrong. We are not "just right" with Air Wings. I would pick to be above minimum and appropriately fund the DOD. O.K. Lets suppose the DOD gets more money. Would you rather buy two air wings, or one air wing and one carrier? Two Air Wings. Yes, it would cost money and ther...
Jump to postI'm interested in this, but cannot find the link/source to back it up. It seems like it *ought* to be true, but I cannot find anyone in the know who says it. Where did you post the link/source for this? The transonic drag charts are posted on this page. You can see the aircraft with the lowest tran...
Jump to postThe F-35C is extremely slow. I can't think of a single fighter besides the Super Hornet that is slower. Great, now we can add this to your complaint I'll summarise the list of F-35 deficiencies. All the links and sources have already been posted.. 2) The B and C models compromised the A model from ...
Jump to postzanl188 wrote:Data dump revealed bad FDS memory chip. May be able to use a software patch to isolate the bad chip.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/t ... 1-offline/
We are operating at the minimum number of Air Wings to Carriers needed. We have one carrier per air wing. We have one air wing per carrier. Seems about right. Given a fixed budget, you could eliminate a carrier to buy an air wing. Would that be good? Given a larger budget, you could buy one carrier...
Jump to postRussia, China and NOK may have the largest air forces after the US, but what are their actual numbers compared to the US? I’d think we’re at least at a 5:1 advantage. Then, the most important component combat experience and crew training. And logistical support—spares, maintainers, armament product...
Jump to postThis is another "what if" fantasy thread from kitplane01. Not really. The original questions were "Was this change good? Did the F-35 end up at the right place in the market, meeting the right requirements? Or would it have been better to have a plane with less stealth, less range, b...
Jump to post.. I'd lose the gun. It's 180 rounds at 3,300 rounds per minute is 3.2 seconds of max rate firing. Save the weight, add fuel, and don't use the F-35 for close air support. why? because the F-35 is a stealth fighter and will never get into a dogfight? we can debate about why thats wrong some other t...
Jump to postI’m out of the latest, but rumor has it that heavies will go thru a T-6 line then their assignment. T-1s won’t get replaced and they are very long in the tooth. So, we’ll be burning up time in expensive planes training UPT students. Another rumor was the USAF going back to a one UPT pipeline. I'm c...
Jump to postNo citation. Everything says 25% improvement in fuel burn. But they have been saying that since 2016. 25% compared to what? No one knows. If you have a set space then adding a third stream means the core and second stream must be smaller. Smaller core means less dry thrust. Like you wrote, everyone...
Jump to postI didn't love the B, but Ukraine has shown how valuable being able to hide the location the plane fly's from can be. Now I think the B model is a great thing to have. That's not the USAF way of war. They plan on keeping active working runways, and if they ever lose the runways they lose the war. Th...
Jump to postYes it doesn't make sense. That's why I think there are ulterior motives. The lightest pilot in the T-7 has to increase their bodyweight by 40% to fly in the fighters. Maybe the USAF is planning to start accepting 15 year old pilots. :lol: The kids won't be fully grown yet so by the time they finis...
Jump to postThe F-35 was originally supposed to be a cheaper fighter built in large numbers, with stealth. Quoting Wikipedia "The JSF was expected to eventually replace large numbers of multi-role and strike fighters in the inventories of the US and its allies, including the Harrier, F-16, F/A-18, A-10, a...
Jump to postF-35: ⋅ Sells much lots ⋅ Best beyond visual range fighter in production ⋅ Best deep penetration attack plane in production ⋅ A great replacement for the F-15 F-35 is not ⋅ Not a good replacement for the F-16 ⋅ Not a good replacement for th...
Jump to postThat's why I think it's sabotage. It seems too unrealistic. Someone has thought of smart way to add delays thinking no one would notice. Sabotage: deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage. (Dictionary) Can you explain this please? This pe...
Jump to postI'm curious in a actually interested way. What would you cut? Transport wise the C-17 should have been cancelled. It had so many problems. It was extremely expensive for what it provided. They really needed an airlfiter sized between the C-130 and C-17 that was simple and affordable. It could take ...
Jump to postThe B-1B, B-52, KC-135, E-3, P-3, P-8 will all get replaced by an affordable cleansheet, medium sized, long range, straight wing, subsonic aircraft. 2 seat cockpit with a multi-purpose bay behind it. Rotary bomb launcher for cruise missiles or 6 extra seats or a large fuel tank drogue refueling sus...
Jump to postYou don’t have much of future in politics, sir. I'd make Dick Cheney look like a nice guy :lol: If I was in his shoes I would have cut twice as many programs. The mess we have today was created as direct result of budget cuts not allowing the high end programs to fully replace legacy systems. The d...
Jump to postThe KF-21 is an actual combat aircraft not a trainer. It just had first flight, just like the T-7. And yet they publish basic stats. They are able to do this, and you argue Boeing is not! The trainer .. that's super secret. Actually if you check the KF-21 Wikipedia and click all of the sources the ...
Jump to postOMG if you have the data let us know. You would still want a citation. You want Boeing to give estimates. That's fine. Empty weight? Max speed? Range? I'd like just the standard stuff. The exact length, wing span and fuel capacity is listed on the Boeing website. All three within a couple percent o...
Jump to postEvery other trainer has published performance specs. I think all of them. But the T-7 ... that super important we hide that data. It's just that wikipedia and kitplane01 will be last to receive the information. OMG if you have the data let us know. But you don't. So when you said "obviously su...
Jump to postNewer design, far more open architecture and performance specs that beat out the competition. How do you know this? The performance specs for the T-7 are secret. Unless you have secret data, I don't think you can make this claim. Every other trainer has published performance specs. I think all of t...
Jump to postRight now, the USN is three Air Wings short, aka in the red aka wearing through men and machinery at a rate not sustainable. More Air Wings are required and required now. The current War in the Red Sea shows just how valuable the Air Wing is. Not having enough Air Wings is one of the reasons the Fo...
Jump to postNewer design, far more open architecture and performance specs that beat out the competition. How do you know this? The performance specs for the T-7 are secret. Unless you have secret data, I don't think you can make this claim. Every other trainer has published performance specs. I think all of t...
Jump to postWouldn't the conservative move be to buy the plane already in production and already in use, over the plane that's four years late and not yet finished with development? Conservative but not future proof. With the T-7A you are banking on the USAF paying for future upgrades that you can get for penn...
Jump to postGDB wrote:
If chosen, they will almost certainly assemble JASDF examples,
What will Boeing charge for T-7As when they can set a new price to a new customer having experience billions of dollars in excess charges on the USAF contract? For FMS, Boeing don't necessarily set the price for new customers. The price could be the same price the USAF plus a fee to the US gov.t I ...
Jump to postWhich has a faster top speed, a faster climb rate, or a longer range? Which can pull more G's? No one knows. You don't know and neither do I because these numbers are not being released. You know who does know? The people making decisions on which aircraft to buy. They are the only ones who need to...
Jump to postWhat are they thinking? It’s in the linked report. Japan has always been conservative when procuring aircraft, never first adopters. Wouldn't the conservative move be to buy the plane already in production and already in use, over the plane that's four years late and not yet finished with developme...
Jump to postLet's be realistic here, Japan will never buy a Korean developed weapons system, nor will Korea buy a Japanese system. There are some things in history that would take extraordinary events to occur, to erase past occurrences which prejudice modern opinions. Japan and South Korea have common foes an...
Jump to postFrom https://www.twz.com/air/japan-wants-t-7-red-hawk-as-its-next-trainer-report Recent reports from Tokyo suggest that Japan is looking to acquire the Boeing/Saab T-7A Red Hawk, or a derivative of it, as its next-generation jet trainer. Indications are that the Japan Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF)...
Jump to postWith regard to MBT's, the discussion seems to be diverging quite a bit and going to a very wide ranging military discussion. I would say that the Russia/Ukraine conflict is very different from the conflicts that the US has fought in the last 40 years, and thus may not be instructive. Everything dep...
Jump to postSuppose you're comparing an F-16C (Block 50) from 1994 vs an F-16E (Block 70) from today. Suppose you're comparing an F-15E from 1994 with an F-15EX from today. Suppose you're comparing an Su-27 from 1994 against an Su-35 from today. Obviously the newer plane is better. It will have better missiles,...
Jump to postRight now, the USN is three Air Wings short, aka in the red aka wearing through men and machinery at a rate not sustainable. More Air Wings are required and required now. The current War in the Red Sea shows just how valuable the Air Wing is. Not having enough Air Wings is one of the reasons the Fo...
Jump to postJust don't let the Air Force start dropping supplies like they did in Gaza. What exactly are you inferring? They had a parachute fail to open and several people were killed. As terrible as it is, these things happen. It was not the US. It was someone operating a C-17. Also, the entire air drop was ...
Jump to postI'm pretty sure for most naval missions an F-35 is much better than an F-18, so why are you all anti-F-35? F-35 production is at maximum rate. If the US Navy wanted 50 additional F-35C before 2030 then another customer will have to go without. You are robbing Peter to pay Paul. I'm not saying you'r...
Jump to postOn the Air Wing side, (which is the whole reason for having the boats), operating for so long, with less than needed just adds stress. I would like to see someone step up and ask Congress for the $$$ to fund an additional Air Wing operationally and for the purchases up front. We need 48 Super Horne...
Jump to postIf China wants to invade the Philippines, having 40 or 80 fighters won't change the outcome. If you think an extra 40 fighters are the difference between winning and losing a war with China I'd be curious why. Ukraine already proved this notion incorrect. How many aircraft did Ukraine have before t...
Jump to postAccording to some posters on this forum having an Air Force is a useless vanity and countries should rely uniquely on the goodwill of the US to ensure their defense (with all the associated strings attached). Who's arguing that? It's sure not me, because I would not think the US would go to war wit...
Jump to postI'll add another thought. It won't be China just invading the Philippines. It will be a much wider conflict involving Taiwan, Japan, the US and probably South Korea and Australia. Maybe. Hard to know the future. But I would not think that if the Chinese declare a naval blockade around the Philippin...
Jump to postAvatar2go wrote:If the pilot brings the aircraft back, that's a win. The pilot is the single largest investment.
I was curious if you see things the same way. I do. :yes: "A wee bit more pesky for the dragon" seems a lot less useful than "send 100,000 poor kids to college". Unless you prefer to see those 100,000 poor kids herded into re-education camps and tutored on mainland dogma. If Chi...
Jump to postThe KF-21 could be an affordable Horizon 3 solution provided it hurdles its development goals and passes its trials (keeping in mind the air force's experience with the FA-50). I'm curious, which would be best between the FA-50, the JF-17,and the Tejas? I'd think the JF-17 is like buying from the w...
Jump to post4,7 billion for F-35s (super cheap) then 3 billion for 5 years of parts and services (probably not including the mechanics you need to pay), super expensive. Do you need to pay 3 billion every 5 years after that ? Dunno. Probably figure $35,000 per hour per plane. So that's *something* like 64 plan...
Jump to postFinland recieved an offer for 64 F-35s or 64 Rafales or 64 Typhoons or 64 Grippens + AWACS for about $9.4B. And that included missiles, an initial set of spare parts, etc. More like 12.5 billion for the F35s https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/finland-f-35-joint-strike-fighter-aircraf...
Jump to postFinland recieved an offer for 64 F-35s or 64 Rafales or 64 Typhoons or 64 Grippens + AWACS for about $9.4B. And that included missiles, an initial set of spare parts, etc. Thats extremely cheap, do you have the documentations for that? I'd like to read that article because as far as I know, Indones...
Jump to postWell, they do operate in radically different financial environment, for one. The OP insists that 20 years of consistent profit (1998 to 2018) is the testament to how well Boeing is managed. Or to how strong the company is. I don't really know which it is. Maybe both. I'm reading the balance sheet, ...
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