by738 wrote:Increasingly US centric now here so better off on the ‘other’ UK centric fora
The big question is what aircraft type might fill lower capacity and new routes going forward?
Multiple airlines seem to be going for rather large aircraft as their smallest long haul type, so will be interesting to see what AF-KL do to plug this gap.
That's a lot of routes you propose BA open... how do you suggest they get the slots at LHR ? I'm sure BA could find slots for a couple of new routes year-round, but 6+ new routes seems a lot As per another post, they’re making major cuts to European business destinations for next summer. That plus ...
Jump to postThere's a world of difference connecting west to LHR to fly west with BA than say flying west to LHR to connect east with BA. That's a lot of backtracking from much of Europe which partly explains why BA isn't strong going east. Their feed going west is much stronger, we're all prisoners of geograp...
Jump to postComparing their East Asia network to their competitors shows BA’s network flaws are deep. It’s a network desert, with only a tiny number of megacities served now. There is the Russia problem yes, but the others are coping just fine. The Middle East is still lacking MCT, JED, DAM (plus BEY too, thou...
Jump to postThey do use 789s and some 772s as 3 class despite the 4 class configuration but BA is committed to First long term; the 779 will have First and all aircraft will maintain a First cabin except the 788 and A35K (and the RR 772s). So many more aircraft with F - 8 seats has right-sized the cabin and Lo...
Jump to postPutting all your eggs in one basket is a dangerous strategy. Politics can also get in the way, and there are many clouds on the horizon. If you look at BA’s network compared to LH, AF and KL you’ll see what I mean. A diversified business strategy is *always* the best and most prudent one. BA’s cons...
Jump to postThat "conservatism" has resulted in it being one of the most profitable full-service airlines in Europe with good margins. Business travel may be down slightly, but premium leisure is doing very well and BA's premium cabins have very strong loads and yields. The operation is becoming more...
Jump to postAside from Gatwick, because it'll never get new airframes, what routes do BA fly that require more capacity than a 788 but less than an A350-1000? And of those, that don't warrant First so ruling out the 789 and 78X? It'd be a very small subfleet. Quite a lot. First is evidently in slow but steady ...
Jump to postThat "conservatism" has resulted in it being one of the most profitable full-service airlines in Europe with good margins. Business travel may be down slightly, but premium leisure is doing very well and BA's premium cabins have very strong loads and yields. The operation is becoming more...
Jump to postThis forum is obsessed with having "gaps" filled. Airlines are OK with gaps when it makes operations more efficient (read: saves costs). It’s the same in that aircraft don't need direct 1:1 size replacements. Maybe the A350-1000 is too big or only appropriate for a few months, or the 787-...
Jump to postIt's yet another subfleet! And the B77W fleet has aircraft that are barely 3 years old and is too much for the beach fleet given airport limitations at some LGW destinations. I don't see them heading to LGW anytime soon if ever. Might as well throw in the A321NX while we're at it, that would make m...
Jump to postAnyone ever self-connected in Cork? Just booked STN-ORK-BHX for the same price as the coach and have 5 hours to play with. Debating a quick trip into the city... Wait, did I read that right...you booked to fly from London to Cork to Birmingham over the course of a day for no discernible reason? We ...
Jump to postSo you think BA should have : A359/ A35K B77W / B777-9 B788/B789/B78X SERIOUSLY? It's the mid 90s all over again ! They already have all of those in-fleet or in order. Adding A359 is also not adding another type. Their B77Ws will likely be gone or cascaded to LGW in the early to mid 2030s too, so t...
Jump to postThe downsize from the A350-1000 would be a 787-9 (if First was desired) or the B787-8, which was last used when EZE went direct after covid. The A359 is just an unnecessary addition to BA's fleet. And no, SJO alone won't sway the decision as to what aircraft will eventually find its way to Gatwick,...
Jump to postSo you think BA should have : A359/ A35K B77W / B777-9 B788/B789/B78X SERIOUSLY? It's the mid 90s all over again ! They already have all of those in-fleet or in order. Adding A359 is also not adding another type. Their B77Ws will likely be gone or cascaded to LGW in the early to mid 2030s too, so t...
Jump to postI have flown 772s from LHR to EZE and PEK in the past. BA may see these as destinations for larger frames today or tomorrow but will also want the flexibility within its fleet to downsize to something with 772 capabilities the next day if demand reduces. The 359 would give it more flexibility to do...
Jump to postAnyone ever self-connected in Cork? Just booked STN-ORK-BHX for the same price as the coach and have 5 hours to play with. Debating a quick trip into the city... Wait, did I read that right...you booked to fly from London to Cork to Birmingham over the course of a day for no discernible reason? We ...
Jump to postPhilMcCrackin wrote:Nice to LH killing it. I hope we get the 787 at some point, it's a much nicer airplane.
So any new BA routes in the pipeline for AW23? Surely they have something up their sleeve. Time is getting on though…
Thoughts, hints, rumours all welcome…
The A380s seem like they will be used differently this winter. MIA gets 2x daily and BOS gets it 3x weekly. So which cities are losing them to make room for this? As it stands, the main differences are ORD loses its A380 service and one of the 2 daily JNB instead now going on a 789 i believe instea...
Jump to posthttps://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230405-bassh?format=amp
Here’s further confirmation of BA’s return to SSH.
Sounds like San Jose California being dropped. Not bookable after October 14. https://twitter.com/seanm1997/status/1641062762674528257?s=61&t=1L0fHJlhcBL1sEh0EAeGGQ Bit of a surprise tbh given it's been a successful route by most known metrics, however the recent turmoil in the tech and banking...
Jump to postAlso, now that Asia travel is rebounding, will BA expand into Asia again? They're pretty much the only one missing from BKK, ICN, KIX, KUL compared to all the major EU carriers. Why is that? Will they be back sooner rather than later? Because I think that they should take a break from expanding in ...
Jump to postWhen BA took the decision to retire the 747, the airline was probably unaware of the difficulties with 787 production, and may have been unaware of the delays to the 777-9 programme. Had the six delayed 787s and eight delayed 777-9s been delivered on schedule, and ignoring A350s, BA’s longhaul flee...
Jump to postBTW, a question: Even with the historic ties between the UK and Malaysia, why did BA keep cutting so much services to KUL in 2001 and resumed in 2015, only to leave again 2021, while KLM stayed much longer in KUL? Is there really a problem with them in Malaysia, and will this route ever be back? A ...
Jump to postSo the comparison of international acquisitions between a peak 14million pax tertiary airport versus a peak 69million pax triple-hub, was actually intentional? I see. But if you wish: apologies for assuming otherwise. Why d’you always have to behave like a loon on here? You’re so overly opinionated...
Jump to postCompletely agree with the overall sentiment, though I'm sure you meant to say AUS and BNA. :) DEN is currently the 3rd busiest airport on the planet, is a hub to three different mainline carriers, and has nearly 200 feeder markets for connections-- it's an utterly different type of operation than t...
Jump to postAny more expansion in North America region? I wish BA can add more destinations, like DTW, CLT, STL, etc. Well CLT isn't gonna happen. Not with the metal neutral JV and the AAnouncement today of a THIRD daily from April 15th to LHR. I believe it will eventually, like (almost) all other destinations...
Jump to postIs anyone else surprised by British Airways' announcement of CVG-LHR service? I wish JobsOhio had used its money to lure BA to CLE instead of Aer Lingus. Slightly. I expected Indy would get it, given recent discussions and last year’s near-launch. But CVG is in the middle of that four-metro triangl...
Jump to postIs anyone else surprised by British Airways' announcement of CVG-LHR service? I wish JobsOhio had used its money to lure BA to CLE instead of Aer Lingus. Slightly. I expected Indy would get it, given recent discussions and last year’s near-launch. But CVG is in the middle of that four-metro triangl...
Jump to postIn Nashville, I've found our BA flight to open fewer connections to secondary Europe than I had expected. For instance, I do a lot of work with the auto industry, so STR is an important destination for me. BA's first flight to STR is at like 1700, so going through LHR doesn't save time over a doubl...
Jump to postSerious question. Unless you're looking to travel to London, what's the advantage of having BA, beyond the perceived prestige of having TATL service? Unless London is your final destination, you're still connecting. Why does it matter if that's in London or in Chicago/NYC/Boston/etc? When I go to E...
Jump to postI'd say NO chance of TATL from CMH for a decade if not more now. Totally surrounded. IND is next up for sure and then it's really dim. Wonder where Cincy got the cash to pull it off? The airport money put forth by the state got us Breeze, which is barely hanging on here. It should've all went to TA...
Jump to postAA wants to grow their heartland operation and be #1 in both IND and CVG, or at least #1 among AA/DL/UA. And while it’s no consolation to those in IND (or MCI), frankly if you look at it holistically, CVG was the more urgent need in terms of adding OneWorld TATL service to achieve that goal. This i...
Jump to postHow long before DL cuts CVG-CDG, or is that gone already? I don't think CVG can sustain LHR and CDG. In 2019, IND was a stronger market and was on the verge of being able to support a 2nd round. I don't see how either market at this point could support a 2nd flight. I do think that ends any possibi...
Jump to postCongrats to Cincinnati — and all their neighbour cities. This flight penetrates a super size triangle of large metros, with Columbus, Indianapolis, Louisville and Cincinnati all effectively served, along with Dayton and Lexington. So potentially rich pickings for BA. While I thought Indy would get t...
Jump to postCertainly sucks for IND here but they probably aren't even the biggest loser out of this. That'd almost certainly be CMH. Had both their nearby competitors (CLE and CVG) both gain new TATL routes this year - technically 2 in the case of CVG if you include the CDG resumption while CMH got nothing. I...
Jump to postSo what are the predictions on BA. And the “new”transatlantic route(s)? CVG have an announcement at 12 Noon EST. Heavily rumoured to be BA, but we’ll see. If it is them, it raises the question as to whether BA *really* were about to launch Indy last autumn, even though it’s public knowledge they ap...
Jump to postFantastic news. I hope to someday utilise the service.
If it’s successful and helps grow traffic, perhaps even BA might consider a similar route eventually. Maybe…
More great news for pond-crossing aviation. Indy also has been talked about in other threads, as BA have registered slots for it from LHR. Hopefully CHS will return too for 2023, perhaps along with a true new destination. After LH’s launch of STL, Ohio cities are now looking most likely in the unser...
Jump to postSome great news for STL, assuming it does get off the ground, with Covid still wreacking havoc.
I was actually expecting BA to launch first given the catchment area, which includes unserved Kansas City. But LH is an excellent alternative.
Back on the forum at last, after two years away!
Keep the posts on aviation. Political posts can and will result in a ban. This is your warning. Lightsaber Just a reminder to keep your posts related to aviation. For non aviation discussion please discuss in the Covid-19 thread in non-aviation Where exactly were the political posts? I could see no...
Jump to postThey’re been consistently driving down costs, building up profits and adding shareholder value in recent years. Saying stuff like “IAG is a disaster of a group” just shows you have the wrong idea about what IAG is actually in business for. and Well IAG battered Iberia into shape with the threat of ...
Jump to posthttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52489013
Ultimately, it’s not quite what it seems when you read the article, with the Beeb guilty of a rather clickbait headline! Yet this topic is still worthy of serious discussion...
Thoughts everyone?
Interesting, although you’d think a Madrid flight would come long before Paris. This would of course make more sense on Iberia to make the most of connection opportunities. So yet again this disconnect shows how slow IAG’s airlines are to take advantage of the opportunities available to them. IB inc...
Jump to postAccording to ANA Cargo website, it will be Western Global Cargo 747 ORD-NRT routing through PDX/ANC. Lufthansa restarting PDX-FRA would be more likely than Air France starting PDX-CDG. The only way I see BA adding PDX would be maybe to Gatwick. IMHO, BA will come to PDX & it will be to LHR. Whi...
Jump to postThat’s truly horrific. Poor woman. Yet ultimately it seems that while she didn’t listen to the pilot, her husband, he should have turned the engine off before getting out of the plane. Perhaps regulations for private flights need to be tightened up and clearer education of users should be introduced...
Jump to postOverall, an interesting thread, so far one free from ludicrous assumptions and wild a.nuttery :white: I'll add my brief thoughts... Loganair may seem to be dropping in a few odd routes, but their aim is to serve core markets (Scottish Highlands and Islands), while connecting parts of the UK that are...
Jump to postHappy birthday to KLM and their blue beauties. Here’s hoping they keep their classy livery and funky Dutch service while brightening up the skies for decades to come
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