Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

huh? May27 NZ ordered 78X. $2.7B list order. the max has nothing to do with the 787 or 777x, please leave the pollution over on the max thread I can't speak for why the Bloomberg article didn't list the NZ order, unless it was published just before the order was announced? While the MAX issues do n...

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Fingers crossed for Boeing; they could use some good news :) If Boeing wants good news, then I would suggest they start by getting their own house in order! The entire 737MAX debacle was their own doing and the initial response to the situation was pathetic. The other day, I read a Bloomberg Busine...

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Fingers crossed for Boeing; they could use some good news :) If Boeing wants good news, then I would suggest they start by getting their own house in order! The entire 737MAX debacle was their own doing and the initial response to the situation was pathetic. The other day, I read a Bloomberg Busine...

Re: New Air Force One Scheme

I believe that Raymond Loewy’s very classy and iconic livery used for the presidential (and governmental) fleet will still be in use long after the current occupant is long gone and forgotten. To even suggest that a change is needed is ridiculous!

Re: Contentious union organizing and related matters were a part of Northwest; now Delta is experiencing this issue.

Wasn’t it one of the pilots strike that grounded the entire fleet but a handful of 747 aircraft flying domestic routes? I think you might be referring to an incident that took place in the late summer of 1998. Northwest management walked away from pilot negotiations, locking out their pilots and sh...

Re: Contentious union organizing and related matters were a part of Northwest; now Delta is experiencing this issue.

Didn’t NW have a history of union issues? Seems like the pilots union, for one, was always a hotbed of problems. Yes and in 2005 all their mechanics went out on strike with AMFA and were replaced by scabs and management mechanics overseeing mostly non-licensed "mechanics" work on airplane...

Re: Contentious union organizing and related matters were a part of Northwest; now Delta is experiencing this issue.

Didn’t NW have a history of union issues? Seems like the pilots union, for one, was always a hotbed of problems. Yup, they sure did! One could almost set their watch and mark their calendar by the various strikes and other labor issues that got Northwest into the local media, regularly. It was a to...

Re: Contentious union organizing and related matters were a part of Northwest; now Delta is experiencing this issue.

When is union organizing not contentious? Based on my experiences, there are three levels: respectful, contentious and Northwest contentious. I'm a union guy of 20 years and the vast majority of my union dealings have been respectful. Only one contentious organizing incident with a former employer....

Re: Contentious union organizing and related matters were a part of Northwest; now Delta is experiencing this issue.

When is union organizing not contentious? Based on my experiences, there are three levels: respectful, contentious and Northwest contentious. I'm a union guy of 20 years and the vast majority of my union dealings have been respectful. Only one contentious organizing incident with a former employer....

Contentious union organizing and related matters were a part of Northwest; now Delta is experiencing this issue.

A StarTribune article appearing today on their website about the current atmosphere and situation involving some of Delta's employee's (ramp workers and flight attendants) who are involved in a union organizing effort. http://www.startribune.com/the-public-flare-up-of-union-organizing-at-delta-air-l...

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Spinning any lie into being truth is the new normal now, whether it comes from Airbus or Boeing.

Re: Sun Country Suing Global Aviation Services

In the meantime, SY tries to slap new paint on the same airplanes in hope that the public will be smitten by the shiny objects and conveniently forget that their hometown little-guy airline has gone to shit. I'm still waiting for my cheeseburgers, guys. THAT's the SY period that I want back.... and...

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

We don't know what caused either crash. A grounding is premature. For those that point to the 787, the batteries overheated, and caught fire. People knew the cause of the issue. These two planes have crashed due to much more complicated factors that need to be investigated. The only thing to do is ...

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Zoedyn wrote:

I was stunned to learn of the news right after my getting out of the swimming pool

Condolences to all involved

Too much of a blow to ET, the booming African flagship carrier

Dying to know the causes

Re: Sun Country admits Cost-Cutting is hurting the airline

Wow, that StarTribune article really caught me by surprise. As if 2018 wasn't turbulent enough for the airline, this new article does nothing to help the company. Their decision to outsource ground handling and airport services is coming back to haunt them and that's not something where I see a quic...

Re: OS retro livery?

This was the best, sharpest looking livery that Austrian ever had. Big mistake in moving away from it. The current one is passable. The two(?) other liveries in-between, were just awful.

Re: [Rumor] Airbus to announce end of A380 production

Who would’ve thought the 747-8 would outlive the 380. Ha! A380 sales still obliterated those of 747-8i. Which is a good thing. And it is Airbus Industrie that will go down in history as the one who built largest passenger jetliner. Airbus built the biggest jet, so what? It sounds rather much like a...

Re: [Rumor] Airbus to announce end of A380 production

I still think without the A380 the 747-8 does have some future passenger orders. There are still airlines that have a use for a large plane like that. Never say never, it might just be the case with the 747-8i. Obviously, I’d be thrilled to see new life breathed into the passenger version. The carg...

Re: First KLM A 330 in New livery

factsonly wrote:

MSPSXMFLIER wrote:

Straight or wavy, KLM has the best livery.....period!

Re: First KLM A 330 in New livery

Straight or wavy, KLM has the best livery.....period!

Re: Antalya airport hit by a tornado

I just watched a posted video showing a few parked 737's and Airbus jets being pivoted as the tornado passed by directly in their path. Some ground equipment and service vehicles were tossed around and into some of the planes. Link to the video is below..... https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comment...

Re: BR Flight Attendant Subjected to Unreasonable Requests by Disabled Pax of Size

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Let’s cut out the PC nonsense, shall we? The passenger was fat, plain and simple! Yes, most people who are fat or obese are responsible for their bulk. Claiming a disability because of being fat or obese is such nonsense and is merely a crutch to gain special treatment. This pa...

Re: BR Flight Attendant Subjected to Unreasonable Requests by Disabled Pax of Size

Wait wait wait. Lots of assumptions in the original post, we are not MDs and even if we are we haven't seen the pan nor assisted to the scene. Maybe the aircraft toilets were not big enough to let him do everything by himself (in comparison to those of the airport). Perhaps this person requires som...

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

chunhimlai wrote:

StarTribune features article detailing three ULCC's currently serving MSP.

I'm not a budget carrier flyer, but I still found this article interesting to read. It lays out the good, bad and ugly for anyone flying on any of the three featured budget carriers currently serving MSP: Sun Country, JetBlue and Spirit. Delta, Icelandair and Sun Country (before the recent changes) ...

Re: Sun Country: Inside America’s Most Unusual Airline

SY is definitely not letting the grass grow under its feet. An interesting comment made by Bricker about AGM's potential length of ownership of SY, indicating that even a 5 year ownership stake in the carrier is "up in the air". It strikes me that all of the business model changes are simp...

Re: Sun Country announces massive Summer Expansion

Yep, F9 and NK are no longer serving this market! That is why I think they may succeed this time. Then again, as someone that has lived in the MSP area, most people on a budget just drive to Chicago and don't fly. Thanks, I wasn't aware of this change. Another option is to take Megabus....provided ...

Re: Sun Country announces massive Summer Expansion

Wow, did I miss some news about F9 and NK? If they are pulling out, then perhaps a bit more breathing room would become available for SY? Yes, it would be odd for that, but MSP-ORD is a heavily traveled route and just talking about DL and WN serving each airport, that is a lot of seats and flight f...

Re: Sun Country announces Summer Expansion

Ben, Ben, Ben....what the hell are you doing? Good luck my friend, you're going to need it... All the MSP adds are pretty typical SY stuff. STL-PDX is a little risky. The BNA stuff is risky, but I'm suspecting they see BNA as a possible second major focus point and they are willing to go out on a l...

Re: Sun Country announces massive Summer Expansion

I'm puzzled why SY is going to attempt seasonal flights on the heavily flown route between MSP-ORD. In 2013, SY flew seasonal flights between MSP-MDW for two years before being chased off that route by both NK and WN. NK was selling one way tickets for $35 at the time and both NK and WN had much gr...

Re: Sun Country announces massive Summer Expansion

I'm puzzled why SY is going to attempt seasonal flights on the heavily flown route between MSP-ORD. In 2013, SY flew seasonal flights between MSP-MDW for two years before being chased off that route by both NK and WN. NK was selling one way tickets for $35 at the time and both NK and WN had much gre...

Re: TSA screeners calling in sick

I side with the TSA workers and all other federal employees who are walking out of work because they aren't getting paid. I have a family member that works for the federal government here in town and I get the news of his workplace situation during our phone chats two or three times a week. It's jus...

Re: HERB R.I.P.

R.I.P. to what I gather from these posts was a legend in American and global aviation (I don't know much about WN). There aren't many airlines with as positive a company culture as Southwest. That is a testament to him. Wow, quite the shock to hear of his passing! Kelleher more than earned his plac...

Re: HERB R.I.P.

The best was "Herb's Airline", a 60 Minutes piece on Herb and WN that aired on May 27, 1990. Can't seem to find it on the Internet. They did a follow-up called "Herb and his airline", but the original one was better. I do recall watching a 60 Minutes story on Herb from decades a...

Re: HERB R.I.P.

Wow, quite the shock to hear of his passing! Kelleher more than earned his place alongside aviation titans like Juan Trippe, C.R. Smith, Jack Frye, William Allen.

Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Those near 90% loads in August do not look premature to me! People in Minneapolis want JetBlue, if B6 were to add a route to LGB or FLL, it would be successful. Especially FLL due to the massive connection opportunities to the south. If SY wasn't around, I'd agree but SY offers a very competitive a...

Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

My 2019 Predictions: -MSP-PVG gets (officially) announced by DL -SY adds a few seasonal vacation routes. Possibly POS and SXM -DL cans 1-2 regional routes -GSP gets DL service from MSP -EI performs well -NK launches 1-2 new routes I believe SY will return again to both SXM and STT for the 2019-2020...

Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

My 2019 Predictions: -MSP-PVG gets (officially) announced by DL -SY adds a few seasonal vacation routes. Possibly POS and SXM -DL cans 1-2 regional routes -GSP gets DL service from MSP -EI performs well -NK launches 1-2 new routes MSP-PVG I agree with, DL pretty much said if they get gov. approval ...

Re: The Growth of SXM

How much of SXM is rebuilt? The place I stay won't be ready until mid-2020 at the earliest. Depends where you are going, but the Dutch side started a recovery and rebuilding effort earlier than on the French side. Philipsburg, Cole Bay and Simpson Bay areas are well recovered as are Marigot and Ori...

Re: Rumor: New Sun Country Airlines Route

If this were going to happen, SY would've made the announcement sometime this past fall, to gear up for their winter schedule of service to Florida, Mexico, Central America and Caribbean. It's either wishful thinking on someone's part, a complete misunderstanding of something said or just someone wh...

Re: Sun Country spending $6 million for new technology upgrades.

sunking737 wrote:

Maybe that $6 Million is to buy an upgrade of software??

Sun Country spending $6 million for new technology upgrades.

The current IT system is outdated and limits what the airline can do. It doesn't allow for basic functions like randomly assigning seats at check-in for those who don't pre-purchase one or automatically rebooking passengers when a flight is canceled for whatever reason. Self service kiosks will also...

Re: MSP Seasonal Beach Routes Begin!

Here it goes! The mass exodus out of the midwest for the winter has begun! SY is now operating to all of it's beach destinations, as is DL, for the season and the flightaware map of MSP has turned blue and green with planes headed south! New routes this year for people wanting to escape the cold: B...

Re: MSP's regional air service partnership success

Flighty wrote:

Indeed MSP has had, by its standards, a blockbuster year. PVG, ICN and DUB

Oh, and JetBlue service

Re: SY Looking For Larger HQ.

The Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) approved Sun Country's request to relocate their headquarters to Building C, currently a hangar used by the airline. Sun Country will be responsible for the design and construction of remodeling the nearly 90,000 sq. ft. space. Next step is approval from Su...

Tentative deal between Sun Country and the Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) for new headquarters.

Newly posted article on StarTribune.com about a tentative deal between the two parties in which the MAC would provide up to $5.4 million in financing for turning an existing hangar into the airline's new HQ and in return, Sun Country agrees to stay there for a term of 10 years. http://www.startribun...

Re: Is SY an ULCC or a LCC or neither?

Following all of SY’s months of press releases touting the changes to the airline, I would now call them a ULCC. CEO Jude Bricker came over from Allegiant, which is clearly a ULCC, and he’s going to cast SY in that same mold for the new owners of the airline.

Sun Country's first purchased jet with new livery

StarTribune article goes into detail about the airline's first owned aircraft and the intent on shifting away from an all leased fleet, to an all owned fleet. The new plane is actually a 17 year old Boeing 737 with all other future purchases also being used 737's. Also mentioned is the makeover of t...

Re: Icelandair fancy landing @LHR [video]

Agreed that it would be much nicer to have that guy just shut up and let the events and natural sounds speak for themselves.

Re: Merkel's A343 diverts to CGN

SEPilot wrote:

MSPSXMFLIER wrote:

Reading the DW article about the various problems that have plagued the two Airbus A340 aircraft, it's time for the German government to buy Boeing! A pair of 747-8I's would sure look good!

That is as likely as the US to buy A380s for AF1.