Looking at backlogs and announcements from other recent orders It will probably be around 2028 till the first aircraft from this deal are delivered, maybe a handful in 2027 if they can conclude a deal quickly. With announced production rates and backlogs, an order of this size will probably be deliv...
Jump to postI transferred there twice last July, does that mean I counted twice? lol HND-DOH-FCO/ZRH-DOH-HND Depending on how they're totaling that up you may have counted 4 times. Twice as a arrival pax and again 2x departing, but at minimum twice, yes. The fairest and most logical manner of counting pax tota...
Jump to postDOH / Hamad Airport released their passenger figures for calendar year 2023. The airport served 45,916,104 passengers in 2023, a 31% increase over 2022 and exceeding the pre-COVID peak of 38,786,422 passengers in 2019. Movements increased by 22%. Source: https://twitter.com/HIAQatar/status/174471314...
Jump to posthttps://x.com/qatarairways/status/1724031238472650870?s=46&t=iKIZMQ8454t3QVGX11eQMA ‘ All smiles at the #DubaiAirshow #QatarAirways GCEO Engr. Badr Al Meer and @Airbus CEO Guillaume Faury @GuillaumeFaury ✈️’ Seems like QR wasn’t a fan AAB’s loudmouth, trying to start on a good note with Al Meer...
Jump to postThe carpet QA team at Airbus indicate they welcome the news and wish Al-Baker a wonderful retirement Maybe these A.net urban legends will finally follow Al-Baker into retirement too. U-turn Al came out after a press conference to announce the original 777 orders almost 20 years was cancelled (while...
Jump to postTwo things to keep in mind: 1. In Qatar, large corporations including publicly traded ones typically publicly announce CEO changes at the date of effect. This is unusual in that it is two weeks ahead of the date of effect, not that it was short notice. 2. It was an open secret in regional aviation c...
Jump to postMeanwhile Qatar gets openskies with the EU. At least the UAE has SOME demand from the EU. Talk about double standards in politics! The UAE and Qatar were both offered open skies agreements by the EU, the EU demanded a number of concessions such as fair competition clauses and at least in the case o...
Jump to postFolks we need to remember that be it QF QR or any other airline Evacuation and repatriation flights or humanitarian aid flights are NOT done at the cost of the airlines, they are paid a premium by our government or in the case of QRs repatriation flights, by ridiculously high seat charges by the pa...
Jump to postNews Corp is now reporting that QR and VA have advised the federal government that they are prepared to operate repatriation flights between Doha and Tel Aviv to assist with evacuation of Australian citizens from Israel. PR to assist in the QR/VA PR battle against QF. Any repatriation out of TLV wi...
Jump to postWhy does QR operate US-bound flights that don't connect with any South Asia flights (731/732, 704/705, 741, 709/710)? The vast majority of passengers who use the US flights connect onto flights going to the Indian subcontinent yet these flights have barely any connections to the Subcontinent (and w...
Jump to postAren't these new carriers (IB, AY, etc) flying to DOH a risk to QR? They all offer a worse product than QR, and some QR customers might end up disappointed to end up on an IB plane versus a QR one, expecting QR's product. I know when booking it will say "operated by", but IMO a number of ...
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Don’t forget the “cheap” (free) fuel also..
For the doubters, here it goes: https://worldairlinenews.com/2023/07/25/iberia-joins-british-airways-and-qatar-airways-to-expand-the-worlds-largest-airline-joint-business-iberia-to-fly-to-doha/ Already the first bullet point of this article is wrong. It talks about significant capacity increase bet...
Jump to postJAL has announced new service to Doha also. Lots of OW options from DOH now with AA, AT, AY, BA, IB, JL and of course QR. To a city almost no passenger wants to fly to. The world has gone mad. But hey Qatar's sheik got the money, so it's his world now. IB to DOH is a Oneworld hub play, and the mark...
Jump to postA350F length: 70.8 meters, and 70.9 meters for the 777XF. The difference in overall length is 4 inches. The A350F have a larger crew/passenger compartment (beds, 11 passengers etc.) and therefore takes one less pallet on the main deck. Payload is 111 t and 112 t, respectively for the A350F and 777X...
Jump to postQF seem to be going the Airbus route of late. KL/AF gone to Airbus if last years NB order is anything to go by. CX ain’t ordering a damn thing for a while buddy. CN3 Airbus. QR have enough in their order backlog for now. Keep in mind QR has the following to replace: - 8 A380 - 64 777 - 12 A330 - Se...
Jump to postI thought -ALL had been fixed, I assumed as a sort of "proof of concept" repair, being the worst damaged, as it was reported flying somewhere upthread, but clearly not re-delivered to QR yet. A7-ALI (Lima India) is the one that just flew to TLS. A7-ALL (Lima Lima) is still in TLS and hasn...
Jump to postWell this should be fun... One of the currently grounded QR a350s (A7-ALM) is scheduled to go to SNN later today. The last time this happened (A7-ALL) the result sparked the recent 2 year long dispute. Interested to find out what the purpose of the trip is: simple re-paint, a different livery, some...
Jump to posthttps://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230501-qrsep23akl QR have retimed their arrival into AKL when the non stop returns on Sep 1st. I think it was 0415 before. Looks like much better timings especially with AKL arrival time and still multiple connections from DOH to connect with that flight Certainly bet...
Jump to postWill EK operate a bus service to Ottawa? I know AF and KL are doing it and those buses are usually full whenever I see them. Seems like a good way to capture additional pax. QR doesn't have one so why would EK need one. QR has only 3 weekly flights to YUL which I would guess makes it easier to fill...
Jump to postQR returned 14 A350 to service so far without any of the older or short term leased aircraft leaving service yet. If you look at the filed flight increases over the next 12 months, these would require around 20 if not more widebodies and that doesn't include some potential resumptions that haven't b...
Jump to postIn 2019 DXB was the 3rd busiest airport in the world with almost 90 million pax, this is remarkable considering that it doesn't even have parallel runway operations which is a testament to the people that run the airport and airspace. There is only so much growth that can be handled in that limited ...
Jump to postI think the current QR flights from DXB (QR1003 @ 05:30, QR1019 @ 23:30 & QR1015 @ 23:55) are aimed primarily for transfer pax. I am not talking about today, I was replying to UAEflyer who claimed this in response to 3D101CA: "That route was never profitable to any of the 2 airlines (EK &a...
Jump to postSome data to back it up: In full-month January 2017, an estimated 390,000 round-trip passengers flew between Doha and Dubai International, booking data from OAG Traffic Analyser indicates. Of these, approximately 54% – 211,000 – were point-to-point; that is P2P PDEW of over 3,403 . Link: https://www...
Jump to postthe O&D was on Thursdays, when everyone wanted to get the hell out of DOH! Outside of that, it was geared towards transfer traffic and outside of Thursday and Saturday flights, there was always empty seats. Respectfully, any route will have empty seats, and because of the ratio of O&D and t...
Jump to postI just thought that the market between DOH and DXB would have somewhat recovered to normal levels, but it hasn't happened yet. That route was never profitable to any of the 2 airlines (EK & QR) maybe FZ is making some profit. for the 2 full service airline it was a feeder to their massive hub ,...
Jump to postWhen should we expect to see the first of the uncancelled QR frames in DOH? "Late 2023" apparently. That might be because they will only be delivered once all or majority of the grounded jets are up in the sky. So why are they testing them? It could be that there is a misquote somewhere, ...
Jump to postLooks like they are giving VPD another chance to leave, filed to leave at 0910L out of DRW https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHVPD So far, so good… Flight from Darwin https://fr24.com/VHVPD/2fb7d287 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What would be a possible reason for the low altitude - 28,000 f...
Jump to postSo, is the new DOH overrated by Skytrax? I have only experienced the old sugarcube-in-the-desert with "long-distance" buses and boarding via stairs, back then it was nowhere close to good. I have been there a couple of times and while it is not a bad airport, I definitely would not rate i...
Jump to postTo summarize the network announcement New destinations: Chittagong, Bangladesh starting 11 March 2024 Juba, South Sudan Kinshasa, DRC Lyon, France starting 3 July 2023 Toulouse, France Medan, Indonesia starting 15 January 2024 Trabzon, Turkey starting 16 June 2023 Resumptions: Beijing, China startin...
Jump to postWhat's with all of the white 777s? Did they prematurely retire them due to COVID, only to then be caught without widebody lift as the world re-opened? I belief many are the former CX 777s QR took over. The only other white 777s I know of are the own QR aircraft in Oneworld livery. No, A7-BBF is a L...
Jump to postAccording to QR themself they still have 1 A321 in the fleet today. They probably haven't updated that data, their last one has already been repainted for the new operator and heading for cargo conversion. Pic here: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=11258 And no cont...
Jump to postAs well as A7-ALZ (which was the last to be parked and the first to be put back into the air), and A7-ANH which just got ferried back to HIA. A7-ALZ was on the ground for just over two weeks, typical for a C-check. Not saying it isn't, but It could be that it was not part of the grounded aircraft. ...
Jump to postA7-ALP which has been stored since late 2021 has been put back in service. Next up seems to be A7-AND (A350-1000). As well as A7-ALZ (which was the last to be parked and the first to be put back into the air), and A7-ANH which just got ferried back to HIA. A7-ALZ was on the ground for just over two...
Jump to postWith all due respect I think this topic has gone off topic discussing details of the A321 NEO fleet order. Maybe we can discuss the topic at hand? Agree and I apologize for contributing to that, hoping the information on the narrowbody fleet adds some context to the earlier discussion on how the MA...
Jump to post- They would then have had a lot of excess narrowbody capacity with the 2017-2021 embargo of Qatar and closure of airspace by 4 countries, including the closure of its subsidiary in Saudi (and having to absorb its fleet) which wasn't able to launch before the crisis happened. Just to quantify the i...
Jump to postMore or less a combination of factors & some bad decision making i guess You can say they have been lucky not taking the airframes on the original schedule: - They would have struggled for the first couple of years with the reliability of the PW engines. - They would then have had a lot of exce...
Jump to postthen they canceled the order for those 80 A320NEO orders with pratt & whitney and re ordered 50 A321NEO with CFM engines , so it seems their plans got messed up way back then . That is not accurate, they did not cancel that order. The original order was for 50 A319/A320/A321 NEOs + 30 options, ...
Jump to postso it seems that QR are still figuring out on their narrow body fleet strategy on which aircraft to settle with & the routes they can fly these to I am actually arguing the opposite. - They started shrinking their narrowbody fleet in 2017, it was not tied to the NEO deliveries. - They will get ...
Jump to postQRs A319/A320/A321 fleet peaked at 39 aircraft in 2017 and has been shrinking since. In June 2017 they lost access to a big chunk of the regional market due to political events. Then COVID hit in 2020 and even with the recovery there has been a shift in some routes to widebodies due to cargo demand....
Jump to postHas anyone ever produced evidence of airworthiness certificates being withdrawn? Airbus' own Defence and Counterclaim filing refers to and quotes a QCAA letter addressed to QR dated 17 June 2021 with these quotes: As a precautionary measure to prevent an untoward incident or accident that may be ca...
Jump to postWe have now the benefit of hindsight, but at the start of this issue the positions of both sides make a lot of sense. It all started with A7-ALL, an aircraft that underwent repaint and at that time it could seem like something isolated with the debate probably focusing on the performance of the pain...
Jump to postOf course we are. Are you suggesting Airbus was even trying to get out of repairing the affected aircraft? Yes, refer to Airbus' first filed Defence and Counterclaim. There was a focus earlier on this being mostly a paint issue, that paint normally degrades and needs upkeep and that it is not cover...
Jump to post"Airbus and Qatar Airways later settled their contractual and safety row, but Air India jumped ahead of Qatar in the queue for smaller jets though sources say the Gulf airline also won hefty damages." Read more at: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-av...
Jump to postNot probably a solid victory for Airbus- I'd say a definite victory. Let's be honest, there was never a scenario where Airbus wouldn't need to repair the affected aircraft at their cost- that's a given. QR didn't get anything they wanted and they need to wait longer for the new narrowbodies. As for...
Jump to postWhen people compare the outcome that QR got after settling, and what other airlines got without going through the court system there is something important to keep in mind which is the timing of the court case vs all the developments that happened after QR's claim in 2021. Prior to the court case, w...
Jump to postSeen this claim made a few times already, do we really expect a private company to follow what a 11% shareholder tells them? Because that seems to be what people are saying here. I struggle to understand how it seems that the government of France has such a hold over Airbus, but Germany with the sa...
Jump to postThe relief that QR sought in their claim consisted of 12 items (not just compensation), Airbus in turn in their counterclaim also sought relief that included compensation. A settlement could have addressed some or part of these claims, just because claims are dropped doesn't mean that some or part o...
Jump to postWhat interest does Airbus have in agreeing to a settlement that is all about 'saving face' for AAB? 23 A35Ks and 50 A321neos back in the order book (with the neo order being several years back in the queue, allowing the near-term neo slots to be unsold for a margin even higher). In that case the ag...
Jump to postNot to mention QR had to pay a high proportion of the Air us legal bill. Yes, legal costs in relation to the injunction requested by QR to stop the cancellation of the A321neo contract. The judge dismissed the application for that injunction and that was a separate but related case to the A350 surf...
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