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by chonetsao
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Doug and AA
Replies: 55
Views: 4197

Re: Doug and AA

AA needs to think twice about adding seats to B738 and A321, the next downturn will bring drastically decrease in revenue per available seats. AA needs to rethink the reduce of J seats in its B787-8, the 20J aircraft is not suitable for Asian routes and LHR (of which they are using from ORD at this ...

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by chonetsao
Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 8118

Re: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines

No, you are wrong, alliance would not die. It will evolve. Before the butterfly can be fully evolved, or countries like China, Japan and the USA remove foreigner ownership restrictions, alliance will live happily thereafter. Please learn to read carefully. I did not say that any alliance would die....

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by chonetsao
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 8118

Re: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines

The speculation around how a minority investment like this one might shake up the oneworld alliance is in my mind evidence of how shaky oneworld already is and further supports the belief that the alliance model has formally outlived its useful lifespan. Imagine if something similar were to happen ...

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by chonetsao
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 8118

Re: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines

Great! Seems like QR is eating oneworld from within. Lolx, in long run I believe they will prevail, and stick two middle fingers at AA and QF. Imagine IAG, LATAM, CZ, CX and QR fighting QF and AA... Australia route will be in bloodbath. Given more time, QR might swallow even VA. Never say never in ...

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by chonetsao
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 8118

Re: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines

jfk777 wrote:
Did Qatar buy 5% of issued shares on a stock exchange or buy newly issued shares directly from China Southern ?


Public share purchase according to the stock market declaration.

And Qatar intends to purchase more.

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by chonetsao
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Southern Network/Fleet/Going Global Discussion - 2019
Replies: 11
Views: 2349

Re: China Southern Network/Fleet/Going Global Discussion - 2019

After QR stake as mention on previous thread, I wonder if EK will have a codeshare with CZ soon. Because EK has no partner in China yet and QR just started with CZ and EY does with MU. Plus, What about it’s partnership with its ST members including MU and MF, when will it concluded? Xiamen will sta...

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by chonetsao
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines
Replies: 57
Views: 8118

Re: Qatar Airways announces its has acquired a 5% stake in China Southern Airlines

time for AAB to create a new alliance, with QR, CZ, CX, IAG, LA, and - why not - IG, cutting off AA and QF. Maybe they could try to lure B6 or AS for the american market to replace AA. this website is hilarious And, this forum had taught us who had stayed long enough that: 1, Never say never. 2, Ne...

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by chonetsao
Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

In fact, at some carriers I've seen nonrev privileges gamified with full backing of the carrier. Who can rack up the most miles this weekend and not miss work on Monday? Winner gets lunch. Who can fly all equipment types in the fleet first this year? It's commonplace and often fully endorsed by the...

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by chonetsao
Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

Delta was apparently just fine with this, so it wasn't abuse. Delta management (some level of it) is the body that would determine abuse and they have said it was fine, and have even touted the story. So, no abuse, and nothing to see here, move along, these aren't the droids you're looking for. I j...

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by chonetsao
Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

Why would that be in the grey area of a non-rev policy with DL... As long as it is not for business purposes or he isnt making money off of the nonrev ticket then he is fine. A lot of people have their spouse or a family member follow them on their legs to their overnight or back to their base. Mor...

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by chonetsao
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

I know what you mean. But one should use ones non rev as a privilege, not entitlement. So one should not use non rev just for personal pleasure or to an extent that abuse the good will of airlines. I am only concerned that it could be seen by some one as an excessive usage of non rev privilege to f...

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by chonetsao
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

In fact, at some carriers I've seen nonrev privileges gamified with full backing of the carrier. Who can rack up the most miles this weekend and not miss work on Monday? Winner gets lunch. Who can fly all equipment types in the fleet first this year? It's commonplace and often fully endorsed by the...

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by chonetsao
Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

Question: Did he travel non-rev or actually bought the revenue ticket? I have to ask because he would qualify for non-rev travel as a parent. But using non-rev to follow family member 6 flights in a day is in a grey area of non-rev ticket usage. No matter how he travelled it is a great father-daugh...

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by chonetsao
Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.
Replies: 63
Views: 12238

Re: Dad books 6 flights to spend Xmas with FA daughter.

Question: Did he travel non-rev or actually bought the revenue ticket? I have to ask because he would qualify for non-rev travel as a parent. But using non-rev to follow family member 6 flights in a day is in a grey area of non-rev ticket usage. No matter how he travelled it is a great father-daught...

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by chonetsao
Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)
Replies: 125
Views: 24717

Re: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)

I was in China a month ago and had a really good time. Visited Beijing but took the train from Shanghai so didnt get to experience PEK. Reading through the thread, is PEK going to remain open to commercial flights? If so, why would they operate a split airport situation. Which airport is more ideal...

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by chonetsao
Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL 8941/42
Replies: 17
Views: 3596

Re: JAL 8941/42

The only non-ER 773 resale transaction I can remember is the Emirates to Cathay Pacific, and that is because Cathay Pacific wants to use 773 to replace its regional 772 fleet. I guess the JAL 773 have too many cycles to have any decent resale value.

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by chonetsao
Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Lady at CLT
Replies: 81
Views: 18503

Re: Lufthansa Lady at CLT

She kicks and spits and refuses to talk to anyone who approaches her while she screams gobbledygook at a plane landing. She's mentally ill and has some sort of delusion that's associated with this flight. There's no greater meaning than that. Everyone putting these feel good ideas (with zero proof ...

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by chonetsao
Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reason for the LEVEL brand in VIE?
Replies: 12
Views: 1915

Re: Reason for the LEVEL brand in VIE?

Yeah VIE in Austria will see WIZZ LEVEL VUELING all the time.

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by chonetsao
Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American outlines A321neo network for 2019 Q2
Replies: 37
Views: 7750

Re: American outlines A321neo network for 2019 Q2

So it fly a loop of PHX LAX MCO PHX MCO LAX PHX until 2nd May. And then dailyPHX ANC in summer.

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by chonetsao
Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA/AY/BA/IB apply to have EI fully included in Atlantic JBA ATI
Replies: 40
Views: 5646

Re: AA/AY/BA/IB apply to have EI fully included in Atlantic JBA ATI

jumbojet wrote:
Guaranteed B6 is already crying and writing a letter to the DOJ, similar to the one they wrote for the DL/VA/KE/AF tie-up.

Soon there will be no one left for B6 to dance with.


DI+D8...ahhh also A321LR for B6 then in Europe there is Ryanair and Easyjet waiting for her!

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by chonetsao
Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ask DOT for flexibility to move Haneda gateways
Replies: 144
Views: 19169

Re: Delta ask DOT for flexibility to move Haneda gateways

I have a solution, but a bad one. If DOT allows AA to have a reserve/break/dormant on its PEK/PVG authority from ORD, then DOT should also allow DL to seek 'flexibility' on its HND slots/routes. Otherwise, do block both party and nobody would be unhappy.

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by chonetsao
Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami to Asia still in the works
Replies: 109
Views: 9727

Re: Miami to Asia still in the works

Does CX have the traffic right to do a HKG KIX MIA or HKG NRT MIA run?

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by chonetsao
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ask DOT for flexibility to move Haneda gateways
Replies: 144
Views: 19169

Re: Delta ask DOT for flexibility to move Haneda gateways

This has "Delta is looking to move MSP-HND somewhere (SEA? ATL?), but if they wish, they can fly that route again" all over it. MSP does stand out like a sore thumb compare to all the other destinations that has a HND flight anyway (The only smaller market, PDEW-wise, is probably VIE, and...

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by chonetsao
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Middle East Airlines Orders 4 x A330-900Neo's
Replies: 34
Views: 7803

Re: Middle East Airlines Air Liban Airbus A330-900Neo Orders

Boeing was probably not interested in getting just a handful 787 on order....... If this is right; as a Boeing shareholder; i'd like to know the hell why not ...... If Being is to fight this deal, it may have to provide pilot conversion programme. It also had to compete with A321NEO which Boeing re...

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by chonetsao
Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Inefficent air corridors in China
Replies: 6
Views: 1997

Re: Inefficent air corridors in China

You might get another shock when you check the air route from Europe to South Korea in China. Madness. Also air route from Europe to Hong Kong via Chengdu and Wuzhou. Lots of wasted time and fuel. Extreme inefficiencies.

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by chonetsao
Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean Airlines future of wide-body fleet and long-range routes
Replies: 36
Views: 7136

Re: Aegean Airlines future of wide-body fleet and long-range routes

As a frequent Aegean flyer, I do not see A3 get into long haul or wide body AC. The current Athens airport is nice, but it is not optimised for long haul transit market. Almost all Athens long haul passengers are destined to Greece, mostly VFR and tourist crowd. The structure for a home grown long h...

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by chonetsao
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Malta might consider A321LR to fly to NY, Toronto, Mumbai
Replies: 49
Views: 7513

Re: Air Malta might consider A321LR to fly to NY, Toronto, Mumbai

Whatever the tourism Minister is smoking, I would like it too. Must be good.

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by chonetsao
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New 772LR order, owner?
Replies: 39
Views: 10810

Re: New 772LR order, owner?

Basically you can discount all major airlines that has 777-300ER but does not have ultra long haul routes, or those airlines that do not have 777s. And a single 777-200LR is either for replacement or additional frame. So delta makes sense. Another candidate I have in mind beside Delta is airlines li...

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by chonetsao
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA/US Airways integration status
Replies: 74
Views: 10900

Re: AA/US Airways integration status

Legacy AA had their day. Its business model failed. Its leadership was shut down. I think it's accurate to say the old AA is no more. The logic and philosophy behind that company didn't work. I hope the new company works, for everybody's sake, or maybe it will need to reboot again. UAL is on about ...

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by chonetsao
Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The most disconnected Alliance member?
Replies: 19
Views: 4539

Re: The most disconnected Alliance member?

cathay is the sluttiest alliance member.... esp for a founding member..... I am sure Qantas tops that. Emirates, el Al, Alitalia, Air France, Air New Zealand, several pacific airlines, SAA, Jet Airways, Westjet, China Eastern and China Southern...codeshares also include a Taiwanese and a Korean air...

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by chonetsao
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA mulling move to LHR T5
Replies: 81
Views: 13243

Re: AA mulling move to LHR T5

I am far from an exoert about LHR. I hope my comments/questions are not too basic or offensive to the more knowledgeable here. WRT future terminal and runway expansion: NIMBYs and bureaucracies are often scapegoats, but is it possible that BA doesn't want more yield destroying capacity? The same th...

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by chonetsao
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian second largest foreign carrier at LAX
Replies: 24
Views: 5866

Re: Norwegian second largest foreign carrier at LAX

Why isn't BA on that list, and how is LH ahead of them? With year round 3x daily (747, 787, A380) they should be ahead of LH which has year round A380 + A346 and only a seasonal extra daily 748. The BA service goes up to 2x daily A380 + 1x daily 787 during summer season. Maybe BA is premium heavy. ...

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by chonetsao
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oneworld adds Royal Air Maroc as its newest member
Replies: 141
Views: 34158

Re: Rumour: Oneworld to add new member 05DEC18

I think smaller Airlines like RJ and UL should seek to downgrade themselves to Connect partners to save alliance cost. Full membership to small airlines like RJ and UL no longer make any sense.

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by chonetsao
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Brunei Airlines to launch daily nonstop BWN-LHR service starting from Oct 28, with DXB-LHR to be dropped
Replies: 52
Views: 14561

Re: Royal Brunei Airlines to launch daily nonstop BWN-LHR service starting from Oct 28, with DXB-LHR to be dropped

WilhelmFink wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
I've lost count- is this their 3rd or 4th attempt at sustaining BWN-KCH service?


Something like that. As Kuching is the largest city in Sarawak, this route should have potential. I don't know why it didn't work on earlier attempts.


Air Asia?

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by chonetsao
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Southern plots global growth from Guangzhou and Beijing
Replies: 70
Views: 15719

Re: China Southern plots global growth from Guangzhou and Beijing

Does anyone know how Air China is doing on PEK-JNB route? Air China occasionally decreased the number of flights from 3 to 2 this year. China-South Africa market is a rather big market, taking into account both tourism and business travellers. Is it that ET, EK, CX and SQ capture the biggest traffi...

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by chonetsao
Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?
Replies: 73
Views: 11334

Re: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?

I don't agree on "premium" necessity on such short haul routes. Times have changed and big companies also try to save money. For example, my Company does not pay Business class seats anymore to anyone but the CEO / CCO / CFO, for EU and trans-atlantic routes. So it is time to abolish the ...

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by chonetsao
Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Southern plots global growth from Guangzhou and Beijing
Replies: 70
Views: 15719

Re: China Southern plots global growth from Guangzhou and Beijing

* to fly to South America within the next three years * to open more African destinations Well, that could be combined. In terms of equipment range, it will be an issue to reach South America without an intermediate stop. The closest point to South America which could reached and also being interes...

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by chonetsao
Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT
Replies: 589
Views: 90333

Re: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT

Not sure if anyone will be able to post a source for this as they’d have to be an insider or have access to some sort of industry profitability information. I personally believe DTW-PVG prints money as it is always full in J and fares are super high with a lot of corporate (automotive) traffic. I w...

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by chonetsao
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Likely BA Heathrow route additions from Gatwick
Replies: 35
Views: 6052

Re: Likely BA Heathrow route additions from Gatwick

Another thing to bear in mind is that both TPA and MCO are holiday destinations which some people like to combine, e.g. buy an open jaw ticket into TPA and return from MCO. You don't want to leave your car at LHR when you'll return to LGW. If you have the numbers to show it, I would love to see it....

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by chonetsao
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Likely BA Heathrow route additions from Gatwick
Replies: 35
Views: 6052

Re: Likely BA Heathrow route additions from Gatwick

I think the only Gatwick flight that can be moved to Heathrow is Tampa. With Lufthansa and Norwegian entering the market as well as Delta opening AMS route, BA has to be defensive. The new Gatwick 777 would have too much capacity while Heathrow 788 may be a better fit. Plus it could benefit from He...

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by chonetsao
Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Likely BA Heathrow route additions from Gatwick
Replies: 35
Views: 6052

Re: Likely BA Heathrow route additions from Gatwick

With densitification of SH fleet in Heathrow, it is likely some short haul route may be cancelled in favor of City Airport running business schedule while Heathrow handles only connections. This could open 3 to 7 slot pairs for long haul. Think about the frequency of Dublin, Madrid, Paris and Frankf...

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by chonetsao
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: China Southern to exit SkyTeam
Replies: 96
Views: 19506

Re: Official: CZ to exit SkyTeam

This is not really a surprise, but still an interesting development. This got me thinking, when was the last addition to ST, OW or Star Alliance? In 2014: Air India joined Star Alliance, Sri Lankan joined Oneworld and Garuda Indonesia joined SkyTeam. After 2014, no airline has joined these alliance...

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by chonetsao
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways CEO threatens withdrawal from OneWorld Alliance
Replies: 130
Views: 32352

Re: Qatar Airways CEO threatens withdrawal from OneWorld Alliance

AA would get the Africa, ISC, and South East Asia feed. Not really. There is no JV and AA does not fly to DOH, so all AA would get is some minor prorated revenue for the domestic segments. The benefit is almost all QR's. Don't AA-QR codeshare on the DOH-US flights? I know a codeshare doesn't transl...

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by chonetsao
Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA post Q3 2018 earnings
Replies: 101
Views: 12628

Re: AA post Q3 2018 earnings

That is right I forgot about the B787-8s, they are going to be 20J, 28PE, 186Y. So in that fleet the PE room is coming from both J & Y. So in that fleet you will have 48 Premium seats (20J+28PE)) and Y is 186 down from 198. The B787-9 are remaining at their current config which is 30J, 21PE, 23...

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by chonetsao
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA post Q3 2018 earnings
Replies: 101
Views: 12628

Re: AA post Q3 2018 earnings

Remove J seats means remove of pricing power in J cabin sales. Another airline (delta) with more premium seats can dictate the price to a degree to screw AAs high fares game. Adding Y seats reduced CASM but not overall cost. In fact there is one off cost to install these seats. If these seats remain...

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by chonetsao
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unconfirmed: China Southern to DFW
Replies: 63
Views: 7651

Re: Unconfirmed: China Southern to DFW

Tag on to zone 1 city also requires zone 1 bilateral right I don't have the regulation in hand. But even if it is not allowed China Southern could still tag the CAN WUH segment with a different flight number to meet the legal requirement. Is there any advantage over connecting anyway? Not for passe...

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by chonetsao
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unconfirmed: China Southern to DFW
Replies: 63
Views: 7651

Re: Unconfirmed: China Southern to DFW

If the first part is true, I can see China Southern opens WUH-DFW with a tag of CAN-WUH. China Southern recently opened CAN-WUH-SFO, and just transferred 2 B788 to its WUH hub base. With zone 1 cities flight right being full, WUH is in the good location to open routes to both ORD and DFW. And WUH g...

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by chonetsao
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unconfirmed: China Southern to DFW
Replies: 63
Views: 7651

Re: Unconfirmed: China Southern to DFW

If the first part is true, I can see China Southern opens WUH-DFW with a tag of CAN-WUH. China Southern recently opened CAN-WUH-SFO, and just transferred 2 B788 to its WUH hub base. With zone 1 cities flight right being full, WUH is in the good location to open routes to both ORD and DFW. And WUH go...

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by chonetsao
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue to add Basic Economy product. Company “success is at risk” if not matches others
Replies: 179
Views: 17156

Re: JetBlue to add Basic Economy product. Company “success is at risk” if not matches others

The day you become one of 'them', the same moment you loose your competitive advantage.

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