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by ckfred
Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA painted aircraft - 2017
Replies: 295
Views: 61089

Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

I know in Sabre the code is 7M8 for the max versus 738 for the older model. AA.com does not distinguish but if you look at the seat map the Max has 33 rows versus 30 with the 738. For reference the MIA-LGA flights that will operate with the Max are the flights that depart MIA at 07:05a, 12:25p and ...

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by ckfred
Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United new safety video!
Replies: 34
Views: 4157

Re: United new safety video!

I remember back in the 1970s, some study showed that people didn't pay attention to F/As doing the safety demonstrations. Someone got the idea of making the safety demonstration into a video, because people will watch any sort of film presentation, whether on a movie screen or a TV screen. I think t...

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by ckfred
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery
Replies: 102
Views: 15394

Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

That looks so good! One of the best looking a330s I've seen. The cockpit paint makes it. I can't believe how many people hate this livery. people really find a bland tooth paste colored plane with a badly pixelated leaf that looks like it was made in MS paint circa 1995 more appealing? The new live...

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by ckfred
Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would UA and/or AA adopt a similar p2p/focus city strategy to keep up with DL?
Replies: 71
Views: 9428

Re: Would UA and/or AA adopt a similar p2p/focus city strategy to keep up with DL?

In the 1980s, AirCal had the San Jose hub. AA first started building a hub on the back of that acquisition in the 1980s. Then shut it down. Then in the 1990s, AA bought Reno Air and briefly had a hub/ presence in San Jose again through 2001/2002. Then shut it down again. AA had it twice. Actually, ...

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by ckfred
Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would UA and/or AA adopt a similar p2p/focus city strategy to keep up with DL?
Replies: 71
Views: 9428

Re: Would UA and/or AA adopt a similar p2p/focus city strategy to keep up with DL?

In the 1980s, AirCal had the San Jose hub. AA first started building a hub on the back of that acquisition in the 1980s. Then shut it down. Then in the 1990s, AA bought Reno Air and briefly had a hub/ presence in San Jose again through 2001/2002. Then shut it down again. AA had it twice. Actually, ...

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by ckfred
Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Repossession of Commercial Aircraft
Replies: 21
Views: 4926

Re: Repossession of Commercial Aircraft

I always felt that the original episodes of "Airplane Repo", looking at the operations of Sage Popovitch, were fairly realistic. It was the newer episodes that got to be the stuff that reality TV is made of. Although, anyone doing repossession of general aviation aircraft probably does dea...

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by ckfred
Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would UA and/or AA adopt a similar p2p/focus city strategy to keep up with DL?
Replies: 71
Views: 9428

Re: Would UA and/or AA adopt a similar p2p/focus city strategy to keep up with DL?

I think AA could easily build up their BOS and SFO operations a bit more, but they've tried and been unsuccessful with smaller focus cities (see BNA, STL, and SJC). STL was TWA's primary hub, when AA completed the acquisition in 2001. BNA and SJC were both considered hubs, until competition made AA...

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by ckfred
Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hurricane Irma's Impact on Aviation
Replies: 389
Views: 49147

Re: Hurricane Irma's Impact on Aviation

I heard on WGN-AM in Chicago that AA will wind down its normal schedule at MIA on Friday, and there will be no AA flights in or out of MIA on Saturday and Sunday.

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by ckfred
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA And 787 Options/A350 Order Review
Replies: 28
Views: 7510

Re: AA And 787 Options/A350 Order Review

Like most in reply, I`d agree that AA should integrate the A350 without problem, & it would be a natural replacement for B777-200`s, same applies to UA. AA have extensive knowledge of RR engines, & I`d imagine passengers would be very happy with the plane too. There may be pressure put to b...

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by ckfred
Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/3/2017: AA Closes CFG, Drops LAX-MCI; Y4 Adds LAX-PVR
Replies: 51
Views: 8430

Re: OAG Changes 9/3/2017: AA Closes CFG, Drops LAX-MCI; Y4 Adds LAX-PVR

LAX-MCI and LGA-MCI date back to TWA. I get the feeling that every since AA decided to close the old TWA maintenance base, MCI has just become a spoke served by ORD and DFW. How much service is there to MCI from CLT, PHX, and MIA? I'm trying to think of the major businesses in the Kansas City area. ...

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by ckfred
Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 NCAA Football Charters
Replies: 72
Views: 5662

Re: 2017 NCAA Football Charters

For the Michigan-Florida game at Jerry World, is Delta adding extra flights or upgauging going into and out of DFW this weekend? I seem to recall several years ago, when Michigan and Alabama played at Jerry World, Delta had some BHM-DFW flights, while upgauging DTW-DFW and ATL-DFW.

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL: Promotion to Captain in 6 months from date of hire If you'll fly MD88
Replies: 59
Views: 12999

Re: DL: Promotion to Captain in 6 month from date of hire If you'll fly MD88

Here are some relevant observations. 1. The shorter the range of a jet, the more legs that can and will be flown in a day. A pilot who flies the MD-80 series of jets will probably work more legs in a day and on a 3-day trip than a pilot who flies domestically on aircraft with greater range. ' 2. Pil...

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA to unbundle some fares on some transatlantic routes
Replies: 83
Views: 11542

Re: AA to unbundle some fares on some transatlantic routes

You wonder what the late Alfred Kahn, the father of deregulation would think. I remember, when deregulation was being debated, that Kahn said air travel would become like the offerings of General Motors in the U.S. GM had 5 makes, from Chevrolet to Cadillac. Each make targeted a different income dem...

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Starting PHL-BUD/PRG; ORD-VCE; Move JFK-ZRH to PHL
Replies: 320
Views: 35646

Re: AA Starting PHL-BUD/PRG; ORD-VCE; Move JFK-ZRH to PHL

So, AA starting service to PRG and BUD seems to be a good move, especially if business activity in Romania and the Czech Republic continue to grow. BUD is in Hungary, not Romania. My mistake. I had been reading an article about Romania and it must have been stuck in my head. Bucharest is the capita...

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by ckfred
Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hurricane Harvey and Houston airports
Replies: 546
Views: 61907

Re: Hurricane Harvey and Houston airports

Here are a couple of issues. First, Carnival has 3 cruise ships that were supposed to dock in Galveston over the weekend. All three ships have called on New Orleans to refuel and put on more provisions. Passengers were allowed to disembark, but passengers who live in southern Texas were strong encou...

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA painted aircraft - 2017
Replies: 295
Views: 61089

Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

I could see 757s working ORD-MIA next year, from late March through early April, to deal with increased loads during spring break. I've seen spring break schedules with 752s, 763s, and even 772s, displacing many of the 738s.

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian identifies CHI, WAS, MSY, and Texas as next target markets for US ops
Replies: 111
Views: 12426

Re: Norwegian identifies CHI, WAS, MSY, and Texas as next target markets for US ops

Chicago sort of puzzles me. Terminal 5 is pretty full, when it comes to the afternoon arrivals from Europe, as well as the late afternoon/evening departures to Europe. The addition won't open for several years. If Norwegian can get gate space, it won't be at optimal times. Second, Norwegian would be...

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Starting PHL-BUD/PRG; ORD-VCE; Move JFK-ZRH to PHL
Replies: 320
Views: 35646

Re: AA Starting PHL-BUD/PRG; ORD-VCE; Move JFK-ZRH to PHL

A gentleman that used to work at my wife's employer is now with a financial services firm headquartered in Amsterdam. I looked at the firm's website, and the other European location is Budapest. From what I've read, a number of western European countries are seeing both manufacturing jobs and white-...

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by ckfred
Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/20/2017: KX to ORD; AA Moves ZRH to PHL from JFK; AM Back Into DTW-MTY
Replies: 39
Views: 7580

Re: OAG Changes 8/20/2017: KX to ORD; AA Moves ZRH to PHL from JFK; AM Back Into DTW-MTY

I wonder if this is the start of some kind or realignment in the purposes of the JFK and PHL operations. I don't see AA deciding to give up on New York, but I wonder if AA is deciding that it makes sense to run New York traffic to Europe via LHR or MAD, while connecting traffic for Europe will be ru...

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by ckfred
Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Midwest Express 2017
Replies: 109
Views: 13295

Re: Midwest Express 2017

Can the people behind Midwest Express get this operation going? Who knows. I understand that since the end of the original Midwest Express/Midwest Airlines, MKE has seen air service decrease. But, are southeast Wisconsin and the northern suburbs of Chicago a big enough market to sustain a new carri...

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA A380 to ORD S18
Replies: 31
Views: 6069

Re: BA A380 to ORD S18

And think how much better T5 was, when compared to the original T1, before UA knocked it down and built the current terminal. That terminal dates back to when Chicago got jet service in 1959/60 and needed a second airport, because MDW couldn't handle 707s.

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Midwest Express 2017
Replies: 109
Views: 13295

Re: Midwest Express 2017

I remember hearing an airline analyst on CNBC complain that the problem with the airline industry is low barriers to entry and high barriers to exit. In other words, accumulating capital, acquiring aircraft, hiring and training employees, finding gate space, and getting the proper certifications is ...

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Berlin has filed for insolvency
Replies: 667
Views: 87816

Re: Air Berlin has filed for insolvency

So, what does Oneworld do? You can't run every U.S. passenger flying to Europe through LHR or MAD. Air Berlin was hardly of any use for OneWorld carriers. No OneWorld carrier even has a long-haul flight from DUS and QR operates the sole OneWorld flight from TXL. (And I'm not sure if they cooperated...

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Berlin has filed for insolvency
Replies: 667
Views: 87816

Re: Air Berlin has filed for insolvency

So, what does Oneworld do? You can't run every U.S. passenger flying to Europe through LHR or MAD.

Would it make any sense for IAG to bid for some portion of AB? Or would the easier route for Oneworld be to try and convince a carrier in SkyTeam or Star to switch?

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Berlin files for bankruptcy
Replies: 1
Views: 1249

Air Berlin files for bankruptcy

I just saw on the Chicago Tribune web site that Air Berlin has filed for bankruptcy. Etihad won't spend any more money to finance continuing operations. The German government is loaning AB money to keep flying, so passengers aren't left stranded while vacationing. The loan should keep AB flying for ...

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by ckfred
Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA outlines 737 MAX plans
Replies: 82
Views: 14378

Re: AA outlines 737 MAX plans

The one question I have is whether the the 737MAX will have audio in the armrest, or any ceiling screens for showing movies? If there are no screens whatsoever, then the FAs will have to do safety demonstrations, as they do on the MD-80s. No audio in the armrest and no ceiling screens. It has a sys...

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by ckfred
Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA outlines 737 MAX plans
Replies: 82
Views: 14378

Re: AA outlines 737 MAX plans

When AA started taking deliveries of new 738s, back in 2009 IIRC, the new planes were based at LAX. I seem to recall that the first two planes were doing LAX-ORD-MSP-ORD-LAX trips. As for the IFE, as others have said, so many people now have devices for watching video and listening to music that som...

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by ckfred
Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Tribune Writer Slams AA (and airlines in general)
Replies: 53
Views: 7721

Re: Chicago Tribune Writer Slams AA (and airlines in general)

The writer is asking plainly and simply that American Airlines provide more information to their flight crew, which can then be passed along to its passengers. Seems like a reasonable criticism. I understand that point, and of course I have been on the receiving end of lack of information just like...

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by ckfred
Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Tribune Writer Slams AA (and airlines in general)
Replies: 53
Views: 7721

Re: Chicago Tribune Writer Slams AA (and airlines in general)

Things happen in terms of weather, and no one can effectively deal with them 100% of the time. I was flying MCO-ORD on AA. The inbound flight had to break off the approach at 9000 feet, because a line of thunderstorms hit MCO. (The inbound AA flight from DFW broke off its approach at 3000 feet. I wa...

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA A380 to ORD S18
Replies: 31
Views: 6069

Re: BA A380 to ORD S18

I worked at ORD in the early 90s through late 00s. I walked around T5 as it was being built and worked in it since day 1. It's a dump. Even the construction was shoddy. Improving the dining experience couldn't have been that hard since it was horrible to begin (MC Ds, a sad facsimile of Unos pizza,...

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/6/2017: UA Brings Back ORD-PNS; AA Exits MSP-LAX, Expands SLC-PHL
Replies: 58
Views: 10656

Re: OAG Changes 8/6/2017: UA Brings Back ORD-PNS; AA Exits MSP-LAX, Expands SLC-PHL

I'm curious as to why AA is reducing ORD-FLL and ORD-PBI in November. That is when I would expect a slight increase in frequency. I know people with winter homes in south Florida who start flying down for weekends, basically from Halloween to Easter.

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by ckfred
Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Possible AA Intl S18 changes
Replies: 88
Views: 15485

Re: Possible AA Intl S18 changes

I bet AA does much better in New York than many people believe. Remember that Scott Kirby said that UA abandoning JFK for EWR was a mistake. UA has lost a number of contracts, because it can't fly trans-con out of JFK. Kirby said that he knew, back from his HP/AA days that AA got a lot of business, ...

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by ckfred
Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA bars AI 126 ORD-DEL from flying
Replies: 141
Views: 23882

Re: FAA bars AI 126 ORD-DEL from flying

Several years ago, my wife was booked on what is now Envoy from ORD to ATL. One of the stickers had come off. The sticker, on the wind, shows where passengers climbing out of window exit are to step, when moving on the wing during evacuation. Maintenance could not find a sticker anywhere at ORD, and...

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by ckfred
Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seat size regulations in the US
Replies: 176
Views: 12148

Re: Seat size regulations in the US

My understanding is that an aircraft manufacturer has to demonstrate that a plane can be safely evacuated within a specific amount of time. The likes of Boeing and Airbus put in the highest amount of seats that they believe can be evacuated, and then there are demonstration tests. If I recall correc...

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by ckfred
Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes
Replies: 46
Views: 7011

Re: Status of AA's MD-80's ... Current and Future Routes

As long as oil stays cheap, say $55 a barrel and lower, then the only reason to retire any given MD-80 will be required maintenance. If oil starts a run-up, even to $70 a barrel, I assume that the retirement schedule is accelerated. By the same token, if an RJ operator has trouble fulfilling its fly...

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by ckfred
Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What types of airplanes have you flown on?
Replies: 13
Views: 790

Re: What types of airplanes have you flown on?

For me, it's the 707 (I'm not sure which variants), 727-100, 727-200, 737-200, 737-800, 757-200, 767-200ER, 767-300ER, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-3, DC-9-10, DC-9-30, DC-9-50, DC-10-10, MD-80, L-1011-1, L-1011-500, F100, CV-240, Saab 340, Embrear 140, Embrear 145, Embrear 175, and CRJ-700. If you're c...

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by ckfred
Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Supposed UA pax films bags being thrown from the belly of a UA flight
Replies: 25
Views: 4666

Re: Supposed UA pax films bags being thrown from the belly of a UA flight

A lot of jet bridges have a chute. I've seen such on AA jet bridges at many airports. I know that ORD has baggage elevators on H and K, for bags, baby strollers, and such that are gate checked. But, let me tell you about something I saw about 20 years ago. A baggage cart pulled up to a UA 737 and se...

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by ckfred
Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA paint status
Replies: 38
Views: 5615

Re: New AA paint status

I flew an ORD-SNA-ORD roundtrip this month. At ORD, I saw a few 738s in bare metal, and I saw one CRJ200 in the white Eagle livery. At SNA, I saw one bare metal 738. Other than that, all of the bare metal aircraft were MD-80s, and not many of those. ORD's narrowbodies seem to be skewing towards 738s...

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by ckfred
Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Terminal ORD: Timeless?
Replies: 22
Views: 3682

Re: AA Terminal ORD: Timeless?

I love O'Hare. The whole thing. Even when it's a mess, it's just lovely. I kind of like Terminal 3 as it is. And I agree - the flags in the hall - awesome. They also do a great job at Christmas decorations. Now, for something stuck in the 1990's, to me, that's Terminal 1. It's not bad, it's not hor...

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by ckfred
Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Terminal ORD: Timeless?
Replies: 22
Views: 3682

Re: AA Terminal ORD: Timeless?

AA did a major renovation to the terminal in the late 80s and early 90s. The corridors are wider than in E and F in Terminal 2. Because multiple airlines use Terminal 2, that terminal really looks like it did back in the days of regulation. AA had the same issue with Concourse G. It looked like some...

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by ckfred
Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US airline hub closures
Replies: 116
Views: 14922

Re: US airline hub closures

Here's why PHL isn't going anywhere in the near future. Twenty years ago, AA have a very robust number of European destinations out of ORD, including the likes of Glasgow, Stockholm, and Zurich. If you go back further, AA flew wot Frankfurt, Munich, and Dusseldorf. All of those flights are gone, too...

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by ckfred
Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United President Says F9 Expansion Is "Sign of Failure"
Replies: 150
Views: 21541

Re: United President Says F9 Expansion Is "Sign of Failure"

Kirby is alluding to a point that has plagued businesses for many years, growing too quickly. It seems that Frontier is adding a lot of cities and a lot of routes in a short amount of time. It just seems to me that a lot of things can become issues during the first few weeks of expansion. At new cit...

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by ckfred
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The boss of Qatar Airways ridicules American carriers for their aged flight attendants
Replies: 193
Views: 23469

Re: The boss of Qatar Airways ridicules American carriers for their aged flight attendants

It's interesting that the QR CEO Akbar Al Baker makes light of U.S. carriers not having the eye candy that QR has. But, once the eye candy steps off the plane at DOH, how much more clothing must she put on, in order to meet the cultural customs of the Qatar? The article made the point that service o...

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by ckfred
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA International routes
Replies: 67
Views: 16286

Re: New AA International routes

In the summer of 2001, AA announced that it would start ORD-AMS in 2002 (I don't remember the exact date). Then came September 11th, and the ORD-AMS non-stop was shelved. I mentioned on a prior topic that AA flying to AMS, in the long-run, could be a good plan. There was a WSJ acticle a while back s...

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by ckfred
Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Did AA Survive Not Declaring Bankruptcy?
Replies: 24
Views: 6034

Re: How Did AA Survive Not Declaring Bankruptcy?

Chapter 11 can turn into a long, drawn-out process. Think how long UA was in bankruptcy and how many times they asked the judge for extensions on filing the plan of reorganization. That process irritated labor, who wanted new contracts, and creditors, who wanted to know what they were going to get i...

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by ckfred
Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US DHS announces new security measures for US bound flights
Replies: 79
Views: 12702

Re: US DHS announces new security measures for US bound flights

I was of the opinion that the U.S. wasn't interested in the data on your electronic device. The concern is that terrorist groups have figured out how to conceal very powerful explosives in laptops and even tablet computers.

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by ckfred
Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does BA capture a lot of North America <-> India traffic?
Replies: 46
Views: 7975

Re: Does BA capture a lot of North America <-> India traffic?

My wife has worked over the years with a number of people who have relatives in India, and people from her office travel to India now and then for business (her last two employers have Indian offices). Out of Chicago, the choices were either the AA non-stop (before it was dropped), Air India, BA/AA ...

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by ckfred
Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are the 757/767 so popular?
Replies: 71
Views: 10766

Re: Why are the 757/767 so popular?

Remember that the typical seating configuration for the 757 was between 180 seats and 190s (F+Y). Earlier planes that could carry that many people were the 707 and the DC-8. They could not operate from airports with short runways, like MDW, DCA, and SNA. But, the 757 can easily handle departures out...

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by ckfred
Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:38 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TSA Asking Passengers to Remove BOOKS from Carry Ons
Replies: 17
Views: 2147

Re: TSA Asking Passengers to Remove BOOKS from Carry Ons

I'm curious is there is any difference in screening between a paperback book and a hardcover book. I could see that a college textbook, several hundred pages thick with a heavy cover, could present problems for an w-ray machine. On the other hand, what about a stack of magazines? Or, for teens and k...

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by ckfred
Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up with Republic for American Eagle
Replies: 10
Views: 2166

What's up with Republic for American Eagle

I fly ORD-IAH once or twice a year on AA. Back in 2014, AA had replaced the Envoy CRJ700s with Republic E175s. Then, in the fall of 2015, the route went all mainline (MD-80s). Last fall, the flights seemed to be a mix of SkyWest and Envoy-operated CRJ700s. I was looking for travel next March, and it...

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