a lot of this thread is in the clouds but ill add a few things... First off, what occurred in the Auto Industry that lead to the demise of the daily always full DC10 that went DTW-KIX? and why could that not be started again? I do agree we need some more feed but there are atleast 10 airports that ...Jump to post
Ofcourse Detroit needs rail, and its simple because the tracks and the station, atleast on the Downtown end, already exist. Amtrak runs from Chicago, they turn after Dearborn and go to Royal Oak, but those tracks continue to Downtown. Gilbert wants to use the original Central Train Depot, all that'...Jump to post
As some would claim, “DTW is DL’s least profitable hub.” There I did it for you. *although it’s not some people want to deny the fact that it’s actually pretty profitable. No one would claim that. Why does every thread need to turn into a DTW conversation? My guesses (by margin/total profit): AA - ...Jump to post
neomax wrote:Interesting, good inside information to base that off of. It'll be tricky to find someone to do LHR, it'll happen one day by someone, I'm pretty confident. Jump to postSince then, DL has launched MCO-AMS, so I'm wondering if anything has changed...
SumChristianus wrote:I'd really like to see that number more around 75 or 80 daily, there's a lot of unused potential in MCO especially with the ability to relieve ATL and connect passengers on partners like AM, VS, and WS, while utilizing a codeshare on GOL, it's a good opportunity. Jump to postMCO: 50
It's pretty funny DTW didn't make the short list. Surprise our resident DTW folks haven't chimed in claiming Amazon is missing out. This is a fairly ignorant statement, "it's pretty funny DTW didn't make the short list." Basically what you're saying here is the same as saying, "it's ...Jump to post
Now I'm patiently waiting for DY to add MCO-EZE, at that point a lot of voids will be filled other than an LHR flight. I'm still pondering the Tokyo option, ANA and JAL seem like logical fits, AA or UA won't do it, but could DL do it on a 77L without any restrictions? Largest unserved routes in a n...Jump to post
Spirit is going to continue growing Detroit while growing other stations as well. I see them flying 40 daily flights by 2022 with adds to PHX, BDL, EWR, PBI domestically and MBJ, PUJ internationally. That alone doesn't include new stations that would most likely get a flight like BNA, AUS/SAT, JAX,...Jump to post
Instead, it's well, well, well behind on its projections and has seen strong decreases in areas where highway access improved (surprise!). If highway areas were improved in the region it might make things easier. If Detroit is going to be a world class city, at least put a train from the airport to...Jump to post
Since Detroit is now out for HQ2,. There are five?? Amazon fulfillment centers and IT development location in the Metro Area. Washington state including HQ1 has 40K jobs, but HQ2 will create 50K jobs??? I would prefer MEDC/Detroit not get into a multi $$Billion incentives bidding war. On a bright n...Jump to post
Since Detroit is now out for HQ2, I hope this makes the people that live in the Greater Detroit Area that it's probably one of the main reasons, if not the main reason as to why Detroit isn't getting HQ2. Detroit needs to be connected to the suburbs and airport using a functional mass transit system...Jump to post
Lots of positive comments about MCO, I'd like to add a few more seasonal RJ possibilities to that, how about we throw in MCO-GRB, TVC, and ALB as weekend RJ prospects? I'd like to see some RJ routes go daily in the winter like GRR, CLE, CMH, PIT, MKE, DCA, STL, MCI, etc. How about DTW-ICT? Short sta...Jump to post
Now I'm patiently waiting for DY to add MCO-EZE, at that point a lot of voids will be filled other than an LHR flight. I'm still pondering the Tokyo option, ANA and JAL seem like logical fits, AA or UA won't do it, but could DL do it on a 77L without any restrictions?Jump to post
Final numbers for 2017 are not out yet. Maybe by Wednesday. Isn't this it? https://orlandoairports.net/press/2018/01/12/new-c-garage-helps-relieve-record-passenger-traffic-orlando-international-airport-november/ Also today is the first arrival for Edelweiss from Zurich, is anyone else going up to t...Jump to post
What's the traffic look like for Fortaleza and Orlando? I'm curious to see how many pax travel this route yearly.
I also think BSB is back from the form of DL, so DL could transfer passengers to GOL via MCO like LGA-MCO on Delta than MCO-FOR or BSB on GOL.
Spirit is going to continue growing Detroit while growing other stations as well. I see them flying 40 daily flights by 2022 with adds to PHX, BDL, EWR, PBI domestically and MBJ, PUJ internationally. That alone doesn't include new stations that would most likely get a flight like BNA, AUS/SAT, JAX, ...Jump to post
MDs on DTW-TPA? Lately it's been running 5x 739. are you talking March and beyond? They're probably placeholders. The MD is far less frequent in TPA now relative to even a year or two ago, though DL seems to be cashing in on them before they retire them. During the week after Christmas, they were r...Jump to post
... This is actually a new scheduled service. According to some users on here they are now providing the much needed competition to DL on routes to Europe. Well done WCAA! I look forward to experiencing them on my next flight from Detroit to (insert your crazy destination here) Source? Are you seri...Jump to post
flymco753 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1383221&p=20089655 Jump to post727LOVER wrote:Domestically yes. MCO served almost 500,000 more. Internationally OTOH...no, MIA served almost 20K in that department.Final #s for 2017?
Did MCO beat MIA?
freakyrat wrote:Essentially, but it's a mix of AirTran and original Spirit which is what makes it even more exciting. Jump to postNK becoming AirTran Lite.
GOL has announced a return to MCO starting Novemeber 4th, 2018 to BSB and FOR. G3 7600 BSB 0950 MCO 1450 G3 7601 MCO 2130 BSB 0820 +1 G3 7654 FOR 0835 MCO 1425 G3 7655 MCO 2145 FOR 0715 +1 Wow! I never realized FOR-MCO would get 2 airlines, this could be a potentially great option for those going f...Jump to post
Great things going for Spirit!Jump to post
If DL doesn't add SJC by the first week of February I think we can scratch any major domestic adds by the summer and prepare for 2019. I saw a comment regarding NK, no they're not done expanding at DTW. PBI, PHX, MBJ, PUJ, BDL, and EWR could jump on board, particularly PBI for this coming winter and...Jump to post
With fewer seats fares should go up, not down. Something is fishy here. Something else, not just the airplane type, would explain if overall average fares agre actually decreasing. Something is off. Unless the timing is better no (or very very very very few) HVCs are going to fly from the west coas...Jump to post
Quick notes. I’m looking around and DL has a lot of good deals in terms of ticket prices going out of DTW to popular international destinations. I priced DTW-PEK through April and am finding ticket prices averaging $800 RT. Some PVG flights are falling below $1K. LHR flights through April around $70...Jump to post
*DL SEA-IAD JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 *DL SEA-IND JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 *DL SEA-MCI JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 I think they were waiting for the A350 because it cut capacity on their East Coast Asia ops and now they can afford to shift some traffic to SEA. Unless ...Jump to post
I know its bothersome to not have the growth of SEA or the scale of ATL, but DTW seems to come out pretty well from consolidation. It wasn't cut like CVG, CLE, PIT, MEM, or STL were. It has the 4x day Amsterdam shuttle in summer Increase to 2x day CDG by DL in 2018 Domestic increases by DL in 2018 ...Jump to post
Bin 2 sucks to load anything more than 40 large bags.Jump to post
PIT to KEF is matured unlike CLE, STL and CVG so I can see FI co-existing with WW, they'll probably be merged or FI will use WOW as the "hip" ULCC product. I do see FI going into PIT though, it'll most likely present a tough case for other European service though, particularly DY/D8, Level...Jump to post
A few airports have publicly noted they'd like to start or resume DTW service, since 2015. Among these cities are GEG, SMF, ELP, ABQ, ICT, ROA, DLH, LSE, YHZ, DAB, and to an extent YNG (seems like they would rather go into DET). Lets break it down. GEG probably won't happen unless DL uses the C-Seri...Jump to post
I think in DL's interest they should've taken a few 737-700's in exchange for the CS with AM, therefore it'll allow DL to still draw down 50 seat RJ's and still grow.Jump to post
I was looking for some tickets for family and noticed that it looks like at least one of the GSP-DTW frequencies is going mainline in April. First time the route has seen a 717/DC-9 outside holiday periods since the NW days. Actually begins in March, I assume CHS or BHM will be next to see a mainli...Jump to post
So what's going to happen now? IND, PIT and CVG all have year round flights to SRQ and DL flies it once a week for 2 months and twice a week for a month. DL won't budge because these adds have nothing to do with DTW's service, it makes me wonder if someone else will jump on SRQ. Also VPS.Jump to post
Did anyone see BWI is being re added by FI?Jump to post
To put this thread back onto a positive note, I think the with G4 expanding to SRQ, there could a future with G4 at DTW. Internal sources have told me DL’s DTW-SRQ Route was one of DTW’s most profitable DL routes and it’s being cut because of DL’s drawback of intra-Florida service to better fuel ATL...Jump to post
Let’s say DL adds BSB back and than adds SJU, would that finally classify us as a Delta focus city? Why are you obsessed with this particular question? The "focus city" is an amorphous concept and a marketing designation more than anything else. I think the seat and revenues numbers, and ...Jump to post