Smart strategy by NK. This size aircraft, E-2 and the C-Series are perfect for markets like MEM, RIC, CAK,ROC,DAY and etc. Because what would be 80% L.F on a 320 would be closer to 90 to 95% load factor on this type of aircraft. Seems like NK is targeting the Southwest strategy. Perhaps this is a n...Jump to post
What does the Middle East have to do with it? Amman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Musqat, Tehran, Abu Dhabi; all destinations served via AMS and not via CDG. Out of those, Amman is the only significant one. Beirut is served via CDG, and so are opportunities for double connect to Yemen and Iraq. Yeah, those hoa...Jump to post
For Allegiant would they make more money at FNT or DTW? A split operation would be strange and isn’t normally a part of their strategy. What gate would they use? The reason I think Allegiant should do DTW is because there's a better opportunity for them to do CHS, SAV, JAX, VPS and SRQ. SFB would b...Jump to post
Sorry if this is off-topic but why is DTW-AMS such a popular route? I didn't think DTW was a particularly big port of entry. Lots of automotive professionals flying it? This has been going on since NW. However, CDG is becoming increasingly popular for DTW connections because of the Middle East. Wha...Jump to post
solution wrote:This has been going on since NW. However, CDG is becoming increasingly popular for DTW connections because of the Middle East. Jump to postSorry if this is off-topic but why is DTW-AMS such a popular route? I didn't think DTW was a particularly big port of entry. Lots of automotive professionals flying it?
I would like to add that Clear is pretty pointless at MCO. When I use it at LAX, they let you in at the front of the line. At MCO, you only skip the outside queue, but still have to wait through most of the line. I've done LAX-MCO-LAX on DL 4 times so far this year, and its night and day between th...Jump to post
If G4 were to add SFB-DTW, who and what would this benefit? DAB has DTW on a shortlist of potential air service. However, Delta won't add it, and I don't see Spirit going to DAB either. I think this route would benefit Daytona as well as Sanford and to a point, Ocala and Gainesville. Second, most of...Jump to post
Continuing from the City Airport thread, if Allegiant hopped on say....DTW-CHS, SAV, JAX, and SRQ....they would be the second carrier. Second carriers almost always get some kind of deal through an airports air service incentive plan. VPS would be "first of a kind" service, offering an eve...Jump to post
The reality is, no airline is going to want to put their planes at DET for financial reasons. ULCC's won't make anything there, they fly where they can get the lowest costs. Spirit more than likely has a good deal with DTW that makes it cheap for them to operate out of there. ULCC's goals are to kee...Jump to post
They could always purchase brand new A319s with the sharklets.Jump to post
G4 is much better served from Metro as opposed to DTW. I don’t know who’s going to drive to DET just to fly Allegiant when they can operate out of a shared use gate from the under utilized (with the exception of Spirit) North Terminal twice a week to JAX, CHS, VPS, and SRQ.Jump to post
I can already see it now, NK orders the 737 and has a lot of tail tip issues. The configuration Spirit needs would create an aft index to the point in which all cargo would ride in bins 1 & 2. The A321 almost certainly has to be loaded in 1 & 2 because the aft index on a full flight is exce...Jump to post
I can already see it now, NK orders the 737 and has a lot of tail tip issues. The configuration Spirit needs would create an aft index to the point in which all cargo would ride in bins 1 & 2. The A321 almost certainly has to be loaded in 1 & 2 because the aft index on a full flight is excee...Jump to post
These folks must never fly out of MCO, some of the roughest TOs and landings I’ve ever experienced.
...heck, the flight left FLL! First time landing into FLL was rough, because of a thunderstorm.
It's for working employees with an MCO SIDA badge. They have this at both checkpoints. There is no line designated for people who just happen to work for an airline somewhere, nor should there be when there aren't enough lanes as it is. You’re telling me this like I don’t know. You realize when you...Jump to post
The a321LR wouldn’t be as effective for spirit as it would be a company like jetblue. They’d want to fly it with a dense configuration, which would dramatically effect range and ability to be able to fill the aux fuel tanks while remaining below MTOW. It would still probably be sufficient enough fo...Jump to post
There is KCM and there is a checkpoint for working employees. Why does some airline employee traveling nonrev need their own line when there is not space for enough regular lanes? I don’t use KCM when I travel though, however there is a dedicated employee lane to the right of the 70-99 check point....Jump to post
KMCOFlyer wrote:I always carry my laptop with me...shouldn’t do that with that cleaning company they have cleaning the Airside. Jump to postflymco753 wrote:I don’t use KCM when I travel though, however there is a dedicated employee lane to the right of the 70-99 check point.
The employee lane can only be used if you have no luggage.
Mboyle1988 wrote:Shouldn’t be long until the yellow bus comes marching in on PHX-DTW, could be on an A321 in the winter. Jump to postJust noticed PHX-DTW was downgraded to 1 flight per day. The return DTW-PHX is horribly timed for PHX business travel. Quite unfortunate.
Someone mentioned the lack of dedicated employee lines for security. Those are definitely needed. There actually used to be dedicated lines for employees/crew, but some genius decided to close them down. DUMB! I’ve been complaining about this for a long time. There is KCM and there is a checkpoint ...Jump to post
Must have been a disaster for the FIS. The FIS on Airside 4 often gets so backed up that they have to hold pax on the aircraft until space comes open. Terminal C and the expanded/renovated FIS on Airside 4 can't come soon enough. You can add 2 LATAM, 2 BA, 2 Norwegian, and 3 Thomas Cook to that. Th...Jump to post
KICT wrote:I’ve been complaining about this for a long time. Jump to postSomeone mentioned the lack of dedicated employee lines for security. Those are definitely needed.
There actually used to be dedicated lines for employees/crew, but some genius decided to close them down.
Anyone know why DL flies MCO-MIA? It seems incongruous to any of their focus operations unless its meant to feed MCO-GRU, (MIA-MCO-GRU, GRU-MCO-MIA) or HAV from MCO, HAV-MIA-MCO? Any idea, just wondered, given the short length of the route, single frequency, and "large" aircraft MD88? It'...Jump to post
DL is sending diversions from MSP which is closed because of snow. They have also slashed flights out of DTW, but it looks like an AF B789 and DL A359 are still enroute, I am hoping they decide to divert to CVG :) . Since they cancelled everything ahead of time, there are only a few diversions as o...Jump to post
Today was a great example of why DTW & MSP are so important for each other in DL’s Network. I applaud the DTW team for taking care of MSP’s widebody and domestic flights while continuing to run their own operations, the WB gates at DTW were slammed (on my way to MCO). MSP has provided the same s...Jump to post
Spirit could take over the 30 gates or go to Airside 1, that’ll be interesting to see. NK will move to Airside 1 and take over the B6 Gates (1-9) when Terminal C opens. There is no room for expansion with AA, UA and NK on Airside 3. AA would quickly add gates when NK relocates. The problem is, even...Jump to post
In Delta's international schedule revision this week, LHR is going to have all 330 type aircraft on the route replacing the 76W. The route remains at 10x weekly but will offer more seats, particularly more F seats to choose from. Fridays will include the 333.Jump to post
They already operate BOG via FLL, so i dont know why MCO wouldnt be a possibility already. Same with LIM, considering range is enough already for a 319-20. A321NLR will allow NK to go to deeper South America from FLL, which really could be a game changer in south Florida as far air fares from MIA t...Jump to post
nomorerjs wrote:Why not? It’s a target for both airports, and there’s a decent amount of leisure. Same would go for BCN. The problem is front paying which is where Delta would have trouble, so who does that leave? EI. Jump to postklm617 wrote:DTW: No CommentDetroit should be a given with the new EI A321LR
Why would NK build a hangar when they outsource their maintenance? You mean like the one they actually built and own in DTW? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/102083122 That hangar was build for a few purposes, the big one so far is A321/A320CEO indoc. Not too mention RON at the ...Jump to post
Or negotiation tactic to get better prices on the hot selling A321NEOs. This Right. It is pretty unwise for a ULCC to deviate from fleet commonality. I would be shocked if their next order is for anything but the A321neoLR. The A321NLR will unlock so much South American potential for Spirit. I don'...Jump to post
william wrote:This Jump to postOr negotiation tactic to get better prices on the hot selling A321NEOs.
If you're asking why there's a need for DL to fly ATL-JAC/BZN, then that's a problem. You can get almost anywhere in DL's network through ATL, DL's big behemoth of a hub. As for New York? Well, with three major competitors who seem to fight for their place in NYC DL has more of a need to offer it. ...Jump to post
If EI adds DTW or MSP, I would be curious to see what DLs response would be. Does DL fight back, or do they ignore like they did with the WoW additions? Depends on how well they perform. FI started to perform very well on MSP-KEF so DL added it. If DUB-MSP/DTW do well, I suspect DL will add it. How...Jump to post
But exactly how much of a need is there for this? Back in the day when DTW was used differently one would understand the need for DTW-BZN/JAC. Nowadays, there just isn't a need. It's not a question of whether or not it would affect SLC-JAC/BZN, it's more unneccesary now since those pax through DTW ...Jump to post
Thanks for the details below, definitely eye opening, I'm sure with the addition of AMS that number will increase. Apparently advanced bookings are looking great, so I hope that opens MCO-CDG as well. I'm obsessed because I think in terms of what MCO offers or what can be offered has great potentia...Jump to post
That would be great but Delta isn't going to let that happen. Nor would Westjet want to lose money by doing so. Jeremy The best thing for DTW regarding WestJet, would be for WestJet to continue to build up Calgary as its western hub, of course add the YYC-DTW flight, and then for it to build up Mon...Jump to post
Here's the thing though, NW also did not have the hub structure that the combined DL/NW has today. If JAC has the flights to ATL, JFK, and now SLC from the merged airline, what's the need for DL to offer DTW? The DTW pax can be routed over SLC now too, and that wasn't possible until they merged. Th...Jump to post
More MCO excitement, at the beginning of this week, Frontier started their services. This is a lot of service, I feel like eventually, F9 will have both the teens and 20s at Airside 1 once the international airlines move to 4 and C. Figured at the most, Azul and Copa will go to C while AM goes to 4....Jump to post
You really don't know much about the auto industry, do you? This route wouldn't exist without the O/D demand from the automotive industry. read my post again Detroit-Japan overall is very large on O/D, which also includes Tokyo, not just NGO. However, Detroit-Korea is actually not that big O/D wise...Jump to post