LAL should be marketed as a Tampa Bay Area airport. It’s closer to some parts of Hillsborough County compared to TPA. Absolutely agree. I believe it's actually closer (or at least quicker) to TPA than it is MCO. MCO is a larger draw than TPA. If you live East of 98 you tend to associate yourself wi...
Jump to postDoes anyone have insight on FI’s performance? I see a lot of one way tickets for sale in the low $400s and RTs in the low $500s. This can’t be sustainable. I don't have a perfect answer but based on my knowledge whenever two airlines compete for market share on a nonstop flight then they price matc...
Jump to postRJ267 is severely delayed due to the aircraft being stuck in Jeddah. However, the aircraft just departed Jeddah for Amman and the flight hasn’t cancelled.
Jump to postThe inaugural DTW-BWI flight on F9 is today. I ready an article stating that F9 is interested in expanding DTW alongside SEA and IND once they switch business models from an Ultra Low Cost Carrier to a hybrid with both low cost and premium services. Sounds like SY.
Jump to postDoes anyone have insight on FI’s performance? I see a lot of one way tickets for sale in the low $400s and RTs in the low $500s. This can’t be sustainable.
Jump to postI was reading about the growth in Polk County region from other regions according to data from USPS. Looking at the cities currently served by Avelo. I think Lakeland might see more midwest markets with TPA being the northeast focus. I wouldn't be shocked if the next 5 markets added to serve LAL ar...
Jump to postDetroit left a good impression on visitors who watched March Madness games. https://www.wxyz.com/news/march-madness-visitors-say-detroit-left-a-good-impression-on-them?fbclid=IwAR32KoV6waszTdYwls3Me5-YHXM59xMsT4cgb9huszaVjlSZyzC8WvNmaDk_aem_ASFFLpAaBGP2EVGPxsaE-NXF1q_ItHhiLO9LkIzyeLHAZ4UefJcEsaiSJ1i...
Jump to postI think Spirit has made it clear, DTW isn’t a priority on their list for expansion. If it were, DTW would have BNA, CLT, CHS, on top of all of the routes that ended. I have my eye on SY, fares could be replicated in DTW to what they have at their MSP hub and if it makes SY money and builds a similar...
Jump to postThanks for this. Looking to take some domestic DL widebody daytrips this summer. A350 to MSP looks good. What timings was that scheduled for? This timing of that A350 could be to do a turn after arriving from ICN instead of sitting at MSP the next morning for the outbound ICN. Agreed - also dtw ams...
Jump to postQuestion for the MCO folks: I've looked in this thread and on the Airport Website, but are there any plans to modify the roadways into the airport to lessen the awful traffic that occurs before the A/B split? It's horrible. I've seen people get out of cars and walk the final way. Getting out of the...
Jump to postThe word “if” should definitely be emphasized. Last I heard, they have no intentions of going over right now. Quantem has the ground contract for AM, I wonder if it has more to do with tenant consolidation.
Jump to postWhat’s the reasoning behind this rumored DL move to C? Consolidation of partners is really it. Heard FIS will close early at Airside 4 soon so if Virgin or LATAM is delayed they will have to go to C. Also, DL did an equipment update for the summer and it looks like MCO-DTW will also be on a 757 as ...
Jump to postIs it? Fort Myers/Naples feels like a lot more NYC metro transplants than Tampa. Not really ... Southeast Florida is basically the 6th borough of New York Right, RSW and the Gulf Coast of FL traffic skews more towards the Midwest. People in Minnesota love the place for some reason - to the point DL...
Jump to postThe only thing that concerns me about DL going to terminal C is Delta’s bag volume. The bag sorting system at C drops bags into a chute as opposed to a traditional carousel. MCO to core DL hubs consistently have over 150 pieces of luggage per flight so I imagine from an ergonomic standpoint, DL wou...
Jump to postWasn't ANC originally planned as A321neo? Yes it was, there are no A321neo’s in the schedule for June when I looked. Anything was either replaced by a 757 or a regular A321. I also noticed BWI is a 757 on DL2517 some days of the week. Here is the breakdown of 757 flying on Friday June 7th; ANC: 1x ...
Jump to postbhxdtw it will be DL2258 which departs at 0825.
To MIflyer’s comment, DL has said they were going to strengthen core hubs so it’s good to see the extra capacity being deployed amongst all of the hubs, especially the core hubs. I know this is something we have all been waiting for.
A quick Google search on Friday June 7th is showing some DL equipment changes. First, DTW-MSP will not only see 1 but 2 757’s and an A350. Perhaps these are efforts to restore each others purpose in DLs network DTW-MSP-PNW and MSP-DTW-NE. SEA is almost entirely A321’s. The 757 will make appearances ...
Jump to postThere’s no hiding that I am a fan of my hometown airport, no matter how far away I live, but do you think SY could replicate what they have at MSP, at DTW? Similar market sizes and untapped potential to several Sun destinations like SJO, AUA, SXM, NAS, etc?
Jump to postFrom Lansing starting in Oct, Breeze to MCO and RSW. What's this mean for Avelo. Two low costs going to Orlando from Lansing. Lansing is great for speedy TSA and cheap close parking. Breeze has been in lansing quite a bit with Big Ten Sports Charters so they must have realized it's pretty easy to d...
Jump to postThe Michigan market is awash in Florida bound seats ... at some point saturation kicks in, might have already reached it ... Idk, DL seems to be cramming MCO and TPA to DTW flights full on the daily. I flew the A330-300 four times between Metro and MCO this winter and it was 100% every single time,...
Jump to postThe only thing that concerns me about DL going to terminal C is Delta’s bag volume. The bag sorting system at C drops bags into a chute as opposed to a traditional carousel. MCO to core DL hubs consistently have over 150 pieces of luggage per flight so I imagine from an ergonomic standpoint, DL woul...
Jump to postIf DTW gets a new European route on Delta, what could be the most likely one? Dublin? Athens? Barcelona? DUS and BRU would be good premium fare options, I believe there would be some cargo opportunities for both as well. Let’s see how the potential partnership with SAS works out, there seems to be ...
Jump to postCould you imagine if we had a hub on top of the O&D traffic? We’d be the busiest airport in the world.
Jump to postB6 has an operating agreement for Terminal C just like all other airlines at MCO. Some airlines (like B6) pay for preferential use gates. B6 has no exclusivity in Terminal C. Preferential gate use has an expected usage requirement (iirc. Minimum 6 turns per day per gate). All gates in Terminal C ar...
Jump to postAfter JFK ends, B6 will be down to 2 flights per day to BOS, I begin to ponder with the idea that B6 could potentially withdrawal from the Detroit market.
Jump to postI think I see AC scheduling the E175 to YUL this summer? Which days are you looking at? I see a collection of CR9 - three to YYZ and two to YUL. CR9 are identical to the E75 in terms of capacity and product, although the latter are roomier. Frankly I’m surprised with the capacity AC is offering. YY...
Jump to postdtwpilot225 wrote:It’s loaded as 3x weekly through schedules end, unless there will be an update tomorrow but I wouldn’t count on it. Jump to postSomeone correct me if this turns out to be wrong but I think dtw-pvg is going daily in June - good news if true
I've been monitoring Delta # 1409 RSW to DTW which was delayed 90 minutes I believe leaving RSW last Sunday. Today the same flight was delayed 4 hours and 36 minutes. Tomorrow I am to pick up a passenger on this flight at DTW. Is there to the best of your knowledge a reason for these significant de...
Jump to postMore research on some of these routes.
Only LH and TK serve SJJ and SKP as a one stop option from DTW. LJU and ZAG add AF/DL in the mix with LH and TK. OTP and WAW is served by virtually everyone, AF/DL/KL, LH, and TK.
I’m still impressed, but not surprised, that TK added another frequency for the summer.
Doing a general search, TK appears to offer appealing prices to some of Detroit’s larger markets to Eastern Europe like Warsaw, Bucharest, Skopje, and even Zagreb and Sarajevo.
It begs the question if indeed Ethiopian does ever launch flights. Would DL respond? Lufthansa is adding service this summer and no response. My point is would DL allow another star alliance airline to start service at MSP? Just curious, but respond how? MSP to Addis Ababa assuming that's what Ethi...
Jump to postreadytotaxi wrote:Believe it or not, yes. But they would use the same machine that cleans the tile to clean the carpet. No wonder the carpet started turning weird colors. Even more disturbing to know people lay on those carpets. Jump to postDid they never wash these carpets in the small wee hours?
The road layout design at MCO has obviously outlived the airports growth in vehicle traffic (along with virtually everywhere else in Central Florida. Roadways to Terminal B are consistently backed up and make it a challenge when entering the Terminal B garage coming from the south. On another note, ...
Jump to postRegarding the Middle East, the purpose of EK or QR would be for broader connectivity to India and Bangladesh whereas RJ and TK (for the most part) are carrying the bulk of the passengers to Levant. Although, I heard TK is also carrying passengers to Greece and even Croatia, Romania, and Poland as we...
Jump to postLAL is not going to be able to serve as a replacement for both TPA and MCO. It's 45 minutes to Disney and Tampa, 50-60 to Universal, St. Pete, and Orlando, and all those numbers are taken at 10pm at night. At rush hour, it'll be an hour or more to all those places, on the worst interstate in the co...
Jump to postYeah that’s the point I was trying to make, that AA has easily positioned themselves as DTW’s second largest legacy. Shows that they’re putting effort into offering more than what UA offers.
Jump to postLooking at Friday 19/4 as an example, there’s still a good deal of AA mainline going in and out of DTW. CLT will have 7 flights with 6 being 738s and an A321, DFW is 4 738s, LGA has an A319, MIA has a 738, ORD has an A319, PHL has an A319 and PHX has 2 738s. DCA is the only market without a mainline...
Jump to postI’m not sold on MCO, why? DL. DL, while conservatively, has added additional destinations like HPN, AUS, and DCA, still holds on as the airports largest legacy carrier and offers expanded connectivity to South America on LATAM, and acts as a secondary connecting point for irregular routings to the ...
Jump to postI’m not sold on MCO, why? DL. DL, while conservatively, has added additional destinations like HPN, AUS, and DCA, still holds on as the airports largest legacy carrier and offers expanded connectivity to South America on LATAM, and acts as a secondary connecting point for irregular routings to the U...
Jump to postI thought so too, but somehow it isn’t: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jefffedotin/2023/08/25/the-2023-nfl-draft-generated-1643-million-for-kansas-city/amp/ Apparently the city feels those numbers are about right https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2023/11/27/impact-detroit-2024-nfl-draft-supe...
Jump to postI was out at a farmers market in Clermont, FL and heard a younger couple (around my age) talking about how nice Detroit looked in the NFL playoff coverage. They talked about booking a stay in May at Greektown, walking the riverfront, driving into Canada and attending a Detroit Tigers baseball game....
Jump to postI was out at a farmers market in Clermont, FL and heard a younger couple (around my age) talking about how nice Detroit looked in the NFL playoff coverage. They talked about booking a stay in May at Greektown, walking the riverfront, driving into Canada and attending a Detroit Tigers baseball game. ...
Jump to postKeep an eye on NK at IND, they are growing like a weed. They are up 22% Nov YTD vs. 2022, and up 334% vs. NOV YTD 2019 in terms of pax. They are up to 12 a day in March 2024, which doesn't sound like a whole lot, but compared to other midsized airports, its near the top of the NK food chain (see be...
Jump to postAlthough Detroit’s Mexican American population isn’t huge, I think we can all agree that there is likely still enough of a market for an airline like Y4 to operate GDL with a 3x weekly schedule that meets the needs of the VFR travelers in the region. Y4 could operate a morning GDL departure with an ...
Jump to postVolaris needs to be approached about GDL. Side by side comparison to the rest of the markets AM serves or intended to serve, GDL is more VFR. I would think it would be better for the customer price wise to fly Volaris as opposed to Aeromexico.
Jump to postOn several other threads, looks like the AM/DL JV is coming to an end. We should not be surprised to see them withdrawal from Detroit IMO.
Jump to postWhat’s funnier is local news sources are promoting it so DL can capitalize on it. Lots of comments in the comment section encouraging people to fly into SJC or find another airline.
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