Yes, that's ridiculous! I see NZ has this week released details of its own proposed terminal design, which would be $1 billion cheaper than Auckland Airport's proposal. https://external-preview.redd.it/business-inside-air-nzs-stripped-back-alternative-to-v0-IBk7kGWM6weVEPWbpAtVJvkJ6MgPtez1FvPdKMi5O...
Jump to post... NZ are getting 2 more gates. That's it. Yes, that's ridiculous! I see NZ has this week released details of its own proposed terminal design, which would be $1 billion cheaper than Auckland Airport's proposal. https://external-preview.redd.it/business-inside-air-nzs-stripped-back-alternative-to-...
Jump to postNo different to NZ Domestic flying. What youre talking about is economies of scale which is a different concept to cross subsidisation. .....and that is the exact reason VA is sensible in saying that it will not re-enter trans-Tasman trunk routes. It cannot hope to match the economies of scale NZ a...
Jump to postThere was something I read today from some NZ avaition expert that was telling NZ to cut flights to New York and Chicago (as they basically make any profits on those routes) instead of increasing domestic airfares haha Please edit your post to include a link to the article ( as required by forum ru...
Jump to postCan't recall it being mentioned here recently but appears that the 8xxx series assigned to the NZ Q300 flights is being retired and all NZ regional flights irrespective of aircraft type will be adopting the 5xxx series for flight numbers.
Jump to postThat is interesting. I probably expected DL in MEL rather than BNE. I tend to remember the ongoing discussions about DL and their A359 fleet. Based on that talk, MEL likely needs their longest range variant that they have less of, so the ability to operate with more flexibility in that regard into ...
Jump to postAir NZ wants a review of Auckland Airport new $8 billion upgrades as they say the costs charged to airlines will make flying unaffordable for the public. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350187212/air-new-zealand-says-upgrades-auckland-airport-will-make-flying-unaffordable-seeks I would love to see h...
Jump to postAustralia is getting a huge wave of new routes coming. So I thought to make a list of them just in case some readers have missed some of this info. These have all been recently announced. Some are of course old routes returning. Turkish Airlines Istanbul to Melbourne via SIN Thai Airways Bangkok to...
Jump to postAA resuming LAX AKL from Dec 5th, alongside DFW which will no doubt be from its usual start point of the NW season, i.e., October. https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2024/Bound-for-Brisbane-American-Airlines-to-fly-Down-Under-next-winter-NET-RTS-02/default.aspx AKL-DFW is bookable on aa.com for ...
Jump to postAA resuming LAX AKL from Dec 5th, alongside DFW which will no doubt be from its usual start point of the NW season, i.e., October.
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Whats the latest on AKL's Domestic Terminal? Enabling works have started, and a completion of approx 4 years from now - 2027/2028 from what they have released thus far. No doubt there is still some of the advanced design work ongoing. Brownfields developments take a lot longer and are far more comp...
Jump to postTianjin Airlines - Zhengzhou China Southern and China Eastern adding more service from CAN/PVG plus other China cities Why Tianjin Airlines to Zhengzhou? The only time they flew to Auckland was from Chongqing? (Offering those unsustainable $500 return fares!). It will be interesting to see if/how N...
Jump to postDoes anyone recall when NZ ceased operating WLG-OOL? I remember that had come from Freedom Air back in 2008. Was curious as to when it ended. Cheers. 2009 IIRC. I think it was down to a single weekly flight by that point. It didn't last long after the Freedom integration. Does anyone know the JQ fr...
Jump to postMine would be to see EK begin to build a 2nd non stop AKL service, rather than bother with a via Asia, to link in with another of their banks in DXB. Say x3 weekly to begin with. I could see OD or another of their group airlines actually expand their ops here and get into the DPS market from NZ via...
Jump to postMine would be to see EK begin to build a 2nd non stop AKL service, rather than bother with a via Asia, to link in with another of their banks in DXB. Say x3 weekly to begin with. I could see OD or another of their group airlines actually expand their ops here and get into the DPS market from NZ via ...
Jump to postDoes anyone know if there is any progress happening on the CHC WLG and AKL expansion plans? Plenty is happening, certainly in AKL. Less so in the other two though in some respects both CHC and WLG have plenty of terminal capacity to grow into so less of a pressing need to expand. CHC could really d...
Jump to postGreat to see JQ's continuing commitment to the New Zealand market, though disappointing to not see any indication of any new routes or frames in the pipeline. Jetstar will boost its New Zealand flying in what it says is a response to increased demand for low-fare travel. It has also been boosting s...
Jump to postSQ 380 service (SQ285/286) starts Wednesday from Singapore... 9V-SKU A388 enroute eta 1305. Yes noticed this a few hours ago. Away we go... 2 380s on the ground at AKL simultaneously. Doubt we'll see 3 again. Did we ever see 4? Yes there was the period where EK had 4 simultaneously. Before they end...
Jump to postSimple flying did a good overview of the six airlines on the AKL- SYD route. There is up to 15 flights per day from 0600-2000. No wonder why VA has not returned to this hugely competitive market. QF leads with the most daily departures between the two. https://simpleflying.com/six-airlines-connecti...
Jump to postNCJ is talking about QF, SYD could go 3x daily ex WLG/CHC while MEL/BNE could go 2 daily. Sorry I was thinking of the NZ Tasman services ex CHC and WLG. Even if they had 2-3 more A320s with dinginess that work, I wonder what NZ would do? 2 daily SYD at least ex WLG/CHC. Some seem to think QF will r...
Jump to postSchedule changes appears now between WLG- CHC Going from 4 ATRs and 7 A320s per day in December to 9 ATRs and 2 A320s in January. So it's reverting back to the schedule that existed 5: years ago and a few less seats too January is always a light month on that route, I note that once it hits Februar...
Jump to postSchedule changes appears now between WLG- CHC Going from 4 ATRs and 7 A320s per day in December to 9 ATRs and 2 A320s in January. So it's reverting back to the schedule that existed 5: years ago and a few less seats too January is always a light month on that route, I note that once it hits Februar...
Jump to postInteresting add for AKL's network. I wonder if it will be on a 787 or 330? I also wonder if it will be year-round or seasonal? No doubt all this additional capacity will put some pressure on NZ's yields into the region. Could be either I noticed that they have a big fleet of 38 787s and 34 330s. So...
Jump to postI was hoping to maybe visit New Caledonia at some point. I like the idea of FJ servicing this route from NAN. Would this be the easiest connection from NZ or is there any direct service to Noumea from NZ? There are nonstop flights from Auckland in NZ to Noumea multiple times a week by Air NZ or Air...
Jump to post3C seemingly acquiring a 737-300QC out of Kelowna, and selling ZK-CIZ to free up capital. https://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2023/10/bigger-plane-fewer-flights.html#comment-form https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/132507 Can't wait to see it in 3C's livery - indication below (albeit a 737-700, but...
Jump to postYet again, AKL is not mentioned in TG's future plans, yet they're launching all sorts of new ports like IST and CTS. "Next, THAI will launch new flights to Oslo in Norway, Milan in Italy, and Sydney and Perth in Australia," said Mr Chai. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/265335...
Jump to postKE yet again reducing AKL - down to 3x weekly (from 5x weekly) from March 2024 for NS 24. They already announced a shortening (by one month) of the daily service to AKL for NW 23/24. I wonder what factors are driving this? AKL-specific ones? NZ being a strong competitor, or? It seems CIAL's ambitio...
Jump to postDo we know the ETA of having these A321D in service? It seems like it will be next year at the earliest. Will hurt over xmas period. Maybe have to bring back the “Night Rider” services over summer? There is definitely room in the early AM/PM to add some additional capacity on the a320CE0 fleet if t...
Jump to postYeah night flying out of ZQN could be the way they are going. Personally I think it is just training new crew. I don't think QF have any interest in coming back to NZ domestically even using A220s Qantas could be doing night training for a schedule change. At the moment they have two ZQN - SYD flig...
Jump to postWhat airlines may look at NZ for new services. If Malindo Air can make KUL-PER-AKL work with 73M will the also look at filling the void from DPS. Maybe a DPS-MEL-AKL 73M service. Veitnam, with traffic to and from region becoming a tourist hotspot, will Vietjet, Bamboo and Veitnam Airlines start loo...
Jump to postYes, I reckon FJ is seeking to emulate NZ’s strategy and become a more serious carrier in the Australia(/NZ) to North America market. I think NZ needs to watch out, and consider (a) more Australian feed options (CBR, NTL and potentially TSV) and (b) more North and South American destinations (IAD, ...
Jump to postOD undercutting NZ on AKL-PER, as predicted. Good to see competition. Fare snapshot AKL-Perth return Sept 18-Sept 23: Batik Air: $958 Air NZ: $1407 AKL-Perth return Dec 23-Dec 30: Batik Air: $1467 Air NZ: $2012 Meanwhile, NZ doesn't seem nervous about OD. Air New Zealand general manager short haul ...
Jump to postThank you. So the new regional terminal, where is that going eventually? The plan is still for existing domestic terminal to return to its original use of cargo, possibly a ramp down there for the freighters to use eventually? The latest masterplan has regional fingers extending from the new domest...
Jump to postSo what is the plan with the current works? New Domestic jet pier by 2026? Additional layovers north side of pier B replacing Eastern side layovers lost with domestic pier? Looking at the rendering of pier A it looks to me like they might lose current gates 7-9 maybe while gaining 8 new ones so an ...
Jump to postYou are probably right, as it is a constant work in progress. I wonder where Pier C will go if it will be North of Pier B or if they will make it out off gate 7-9 off Pier A? https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-37.0048301,174.7785483,411m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu Google Maps looks like it satellite imag...
Jump to postThat's good those are underway. I thought it was just 4 going to be built on the northern side of Pier B. With a gate opposite 15, 16, 17 and 18 which all will eventually get aerobrigdes eventually. I would guess 1 opposite 19 as well. Possibly a gate 20 and another opposite? I thought that gate 19...
Jump to postOn the subject of shortage of gates. AKL is the same especially in the summer months and it will get worse when the new terminal construction gets underway soon. This work will cover up around 7 remote stands during the long period of redevelopment. Which will be off set by the 7 new stands under c...
Jump to postBelieve one of AA's issue at LAX is terminal reconstruction and shortage of gates which limits connectivity. I think once their terminal is completed in a year or so's time they will in fact have the most gates at LAX - maybe then they will start re-building their LAX hub. On the subject of shortag...
Jump to postHere is an article on the competitive NZ-US market. It remains to be seen if the US airlines will return again for the next year. One error is that Air Asia is already here they didn't fact check it. They also mentioned that Viet Jet could start Hanoi to AKL soon. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/1...
Jump to postWe tend to forget that the Indian market is potentially huuuge. It arguably has the largest middle class of any country on the planet - at least 200 million plus. Does the New Zealand Government’s current tourism stance, support ‘middle class tourism’? I though since the boarders re-opened the gove...
Jump to postPMR airport plans for a $40m terminal expansion. It will put them up to their maximum borrowing limit. https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/132384148/palmerston-north-airport-could-do-with-a-turbo-boost Seems extreme for a airport, that currently see Q300’s and ATR 72-600’s for passenger ...
Jump to postNo plans yet for international flights to return to Dunedin. Air New Zealand short haul general manager Jeremy O'Brien said there was currently no plans to fly a Brisbane to Dunedin service as the available fleet was already operating at full capacity. Fleet limitations strike again unfortunately. ...
Jump to posthttps://i.stuff.co.nz/business/132249045/auckland-airport-is-recycling-its-runway-as-part-of-big-airfield-expansion-project Article about the remote stands project underway at AKL adjacent to Pier B. Resumed after being paused for the pandemic, also helps prepare for the integrated terminal project ...
Jump to postAre they though? As I've said, they've totally stopped all fifth-freedoms now. A lot less aircraft now, I think they ran ICN-TPE or something before? Mainly within Asia. Will they come back? More A359s inbound and talk of more 789s. AKL would allow them a second daily SYD service say morning arriva...
Jump to postThey will have a 77W free now to re start the NZ4 service it hasn't been flown since March 24. NZ4 returns early July, from then all 7 77Ws are in the schedule, currently 6 will be. PPT changes to a 77W this week, that’s a bit of an odd 1, possibly not enough 789s or premium and freight demand is v...
Jump to postI saw on fb Batik Air has added KUL - MEL - AKL and KUL - PER - AKL onto their route map Can you post a link or the pic? I can't see it. I'll believe it when there's an announcement. Three carriers on KUL-AKL - a lot! Can MH last? Good to get some competition to PER in particular. The post from twi...
Jump to postWe don’t know yet, I expected UA to be daily LAX-AKL and NZ daily in NW. With UA 4x weekly, it is possible NZ keep 10x weekly and change days to allow 2x daily NZ/UA. NZ don’t usually confirm until July or so but I would expect some changes to start appearing shortly. DL announced year round. Weath...
Jump to posthttps://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/131832567/another-chinese-airline-returning-to-new-zealand-as-hainan-airlines-restarts-service-to-auckland?cx_testId=12&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=1&cx_experienceId=EXE6G6ISTGR0#cxrecs_s HU returning to AKL from SZX June 17th, frequency unstated as ye...
Jump to postI much prefer the CHC and WLG int lounges to AKL. I value a quiet experience. I wouldn't have thought WLG or CHC would have been any more quiet? For starters, they're small (only 118 seats in WLG, and 125 in CHC), so sounds would carry more easily. Similarly, WLG has no dedicated kids zone (CHC doe...
Jump to postLast month we had a discussion on NZ domestic schedule changes for April. The AKL-CHC route actually gained some more flights. I noticed yesterday there is an extra rotation on the half hour between the hourly service. After 539 arrives at 1325 there is 541 at 1355 then the usual 543 at 1425. Certa...
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