Now I wonder if AA will upgrade PHL-CDG Good question. With the AA already cutting BOS and 1x daily JFK rotations to CDG in S18, they still kept the A332 on the route. Does adding the DL PHL-CDG cut warrent an upgauge to the A333? In 2016, DL had about a 70% load factor and just shy of 30k passenge...Jump to post
http://www.postandcourier.com/business/frontier-airlines-to-outline-new-charleston-flights-tuesday/article_ff59c92a-9caf-11e7-b14c-fbe36f976857.html CHS routes will be announced as well... It looks like PHL will get back on the F9 expansion train after I believe only gaining SJU service in the past...Jump to post
DL inherited the PHL-CDG route from Air France, since DL flies 752s and AF doesn't, and that's how much traffic the route could support. That after a few years of seasonal trading off between DL 752s in winter and AF 744s in summer. Terminating this route entirely in summer strikes me as very odd. ...Jump to post
usairways85 wrote:I guess PHL did not preform so hot in the first summer of operation. My rough math shows a 10% decrease in seats for S18.
With S18 TA changes to date, seat capacity to Europe will be up about 12% in S18 over S17. See below: (Note that this is a static look in peak summer. This does not account for elongated seasons for summer routes.) Weekly Seats PHL-Europe Destination S17 S18 Change % Change Notes London 15,358 14,30...Jump to post
klwright69 wrote:This thread has gone off topic (as they typically do).
ORD-VCE and PHL-PRG/BUD are seasonal right?
These routes sound like slam dunks, if they are only operating for 4 months a year.
Not sure if its news or not but it appears that in addition to JFK losing one of its flights to CDG, Boston is also losing its seasonal service to CDG.
http://airlinegeeks.com/2017/08/16/amer ... 18-routes/
LIPZ wrote:Just wondering why they don't switch the overcrowded JFK-MXP route (too much competion) to PHL as well (just like ZRH).
Since the merger was announced, I always felt AA would eventually focus its northeast hub, and TATL gateway, at PHL. With some JFK flights possibly shifted to PHL. Looks that is happening. AA/US continues the merger tradition of closing, or significantly cutting back on a hub and in this case it's ...Jump to post
This is the full list targeted European destinations. They are also targeting any South America or Asia service and I believe any European service. They just broke down the incentive program into sections, one of which calls out these targeted destinations. Interesting choices then. Notably missing...Jump to post
FWIW, it appears PHL launched a new carrier/new service incentive program in May 2017. Among other things they specifically outlined targeted destinations within Europe. There are a number of qualifications/stipulations but the big one is that the carrier must not have served the route within the p...Jump to post
Philly.com is reporting that BA will be adding the 10PM PHL-LHR departure back to the schedule beginning April 9th. Does that mean AA will be dropping their late PHL-LHR flight next summer? http://www.philly.com/philly/business/british-airways-will-add-a-second-daily-flight-to-london-in-april-20170...Jump to post
This is what I had expected the day the AA/US merger was announced. However, there has yet to be concrete examples of this so I will believe it when I see it. Both the supposed two new transatlantic routes from PHL in S18 as well as a larger push for AA passengers to fly int'l through PHL over JFK.Jump to post
I hope WN will move into more transcon markets as they take more Maxes and add red eye flying (OAK-EWR year round, OAK-BOS, OAK-PHL, etc. OAK-JFK?). OAK will be a likely focus there in addition to whenever Hawaii starts. The legacies have shown no inclination to increase service after slashing it i...Jump to post
:| 85 new routes and not one to PHL.....oh well, nice to see CLT get a few new additions too, anyway congrats to all the other cities and hope they succeed. I am surprised PHL has not gotten LAS yet, but F9 already has a rather extensive warm weather network from PHL so not all that surprising that...Jump to post
F9, as said, is likely but as for new destinations - top F9 stations include DEN, MCO, LAS, ORD, ATL, and PHL. Of these, OKC does not have service to just PHL. They also do not have service to CLE and CVG as well as MIA and TPA which are also warm weather stations.Jump to post
wn676 wrote:It's been confirmed previously that AA intends to launch two new transatlantic routes out of PHL next summer on LAA metal.
For PHL I could see them possibly add DUS, TXL, MXP or OSL DUS and TXL to me have always seemed like the next logical options for new TA destinations for AA at PHL, IF they are in fact trying to expand their network (emphasis on IF). Although, would additional Germanc routes impact FRA or MUC? MXP ...Jump to post
So far, there's no indication I can see that 763's will be used on PHL routes AA already publicly announced it because they knew the LUS PHL crews would be PO'd about it. PHL-LIS is already in the schedule as a LAA 763 and there are two new LAA 763 PHL-Europe routes coming next summer, AA just has ...Jump to post
I'm not so sure the Frontier schedule change is insignificant. It appears to be a very significant business model change. Perhaps it is an error but there appears to be major changes in the works. My guess is this is only the beginning. If one looks closely, there are market increases and decreases...Jump to post
I really wish they would fly to PHL. The fares on AC and AA out of PHL are significantly higher than the fares out of EWR, yet the flights on AC that I take are always full. I feel like PD could do well here. I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously, I would be ecstatic to see PT on this route b...Jump to post
In Scandinavia they say "SAS."Jump to post
F9 DEN-ORD AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 0.1>0.0 F9 DEN-PHL AUG 2.0>1.4 SEP 2.0>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 0.1>0.0 F9 DEN-PHX AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 0.1>0.0 Is F9 actually cutting these to 0 or is it an anomaly since they are doing a frequency reduction, but the open booking schedule ends 11/...Jump to post
If Southwest were to add nonstop service from PHL to additional Midwestern cities, which Midwestern cities would Southwest add nonstop service to first? From the PHL side of the equation, I am not too optimistic (though certainly would welcome) new Midwestern services on WN. The recent expansion by...Jump to post
Midwestindy wrote:are there any renderings of the proposed terminal
I've sort of been expecting a PHL-LAS flight, despite the fact that NK is already on it. While I admit my internal bias towards wanting new service at PHL - loads for LAS are extremely healthy across AA, WN, and even NK. I don't know about yields. But it makes me optimistic that this may be a route...Jump to post
Beginning June 11, F9 will begin flights from PHL and MCO from SJU. There is currently no F9 service at SJU. PHL service will be daily A321 with reductions for about 10 weeks of hurricane season. PHL-SJU 9:15 - 1:23 SJU-PHL 2:25 - 6:43 http://www.philly.com/philly/business/transportation/Frontier-Ai...Jump to post
Interestingly, PHL didn't get anything new at all. Same with DCA, though that's a bit less surprising. While I am not holding my breath for this to occur anytime soon, I think if AA did want to look at new domestic routes then they could look at flying RJs 1-2x to some missing Midwestern markets li...Jump to post
The recently released National Transport Plan 2018-2029 lists the approval and construction of the third runway prior to 2030 as a priority.
http://www.ntp.dep.no/English/_attachme ... 571e02a3c0
On the flip, it is servicing PHL-DEN at 2x this summer. That's a contrast to when the new F9 came to PHL, and was originally too cautious to launch PHL-DEN and chose not go any farther west than Central Time Zone cities for it's PHL customers, even the first summer of the PHL launch. (next F9 needs...Jump to post
It's quite small. These numbers are from 2011(before Boston had nonstop flights to Asia) so even if they've double or tripled, the case probably isn't there for anything other than maybe JAL, since it is a One World hub. BOS PHL Tokyo 50389 11099 Hong Kong 46245 6324 Beijing 48438 9220 Shanghai 527...Jump to post
I would be curious about their yields in BOS. It does make you wonder if Hainan's business model could be replicated in some other secondary markets wit little or no service like PHL, BWI, PDX, SAN, DEN, AUS, etc. I'm not sure I'd put Boston in the same 'secondary market' category with those cities...Jump to post
KLM's network continues to impress - particularly their success in smaller markets in Scotland (INV, ABZ) and Norway (AES, BGO, TRD, SVG).
Their (apparent) success in these markets makes me wonder why BA and LH have struggled and pulled out of many of these while KLM continues to expand.
Looks like the F9 schedule has been extended to August 13. No further routes added. Routes not coming back from S16 season - CLE, CMH, IND, and ORD Routes not coming back from S15 season - ATL, MSP Many routes seem to have some minor aircraft and frequency changes but overall it appears F9 capacity ...Jump to post
First, launch, or whatever - I am very excited for WF to take the E2 and I hope they have a good launch. It appears they want to test out the first frames before converting the their 12 options. Not sure if being one of the first operators of the E2 will make their transition even more important to ...Jump to post
Shocking. So, if current trends hold then BWI will overtake PHL in passengers a couple of years time. Agree on the nature of the decrease but I do not anticipate this is a true trend to be expected for multiple years. Rather I anticipate the decrease is the product of the year after the AA-US merge...Jump to post
With the expansion of F9 at PHL, I only see modest growth for NK since they appear less likely to compete directly with F9. Some ideas for new routes at PHL are: ORD - they tried it while F9 was also on the route but both have since dropped it so maybe at least one will go at it again IAH - F9 is be...Jump to post
US airlines have struggled to compete against other European airlines (SK and now DY) in other Nordic markets with larger O&D and better geography. For example, OSL and CPH are no longer served by UA and ARN is down to summer seasonal with service provided instead by SK and DY. If a US carrier w...Jump to post
AA discloses this but in a smarmy way in the Q&A: Is this a new fare discount? In general these fares will be lower than regular Main Cabin fares in the same way that Main Cabin fares are lower than Business Class. The idea is to give customers a choice in the kind of ticket they want to purcha...Jump to post
You're missing the point. This new fare will not lower prices all it will do is make the current economy fare have less options, forcing people who care about carry on bags or seat selection to pay more for the flight. This is basically a hidden fee. Pay more for what you used to get. The airlines ...Jump to post
OSL: 30% Please! As much as I would love this to come from SAS, their long-haul fleet expansion is slow and hardly anything at this point. Also, their recently announced destinations show them expanding into new territory (i.e. SFO & MIA) instead of adding additional service from new hubs where...Jump to post